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Old 06-25-2007, 01:15 PM
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New information from Iraq

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07175/796431-373.stm

what are your thoughts on this?
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Because it is 'way cooler' to care about some slut then it is to care about what is killing your own citizens.

Watching recent news coming out, Al-Queda is getting its clock cleaned...IMO..why there haven't been any serious attacks for a while. Sure they blow up IED's and such in their own cities, but that is it. Though I hate G.W. he was right in saying keep the fight in Iraq.
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The reason the media is ignoring it is because it is going to have no effect on anything. The article says there are 1,000-2,000 Al-Queda. Wanna bet that if they kill all 2,000 of them that in a few more months there will be 2,000 more there to replace them?

This is not a war that can be won by military means. For every one of those suckers that you kill, 5 more will come to join the cause. Might as well have fertirlizer in those bombs they are dropping on Al-Queda, because that will be the outcome.

In 6 months from now, we will be in the same place as we are now, except more people will be dead, and we will have spent $100 billion more on this war. Of course that last part is the real reason for this big offensive...

Imagine if you were the company that supplied the weapons used in such operations. When would you want the war to end?
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I don't think that Al Queda still has continuous exponential growth I believe that no matter what happens people's overall want for self preservation will win out.
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I don't think that Al Queda still has continuous exponential growth I believe that no matter what happens people's overall want for self preservation will win out.

Bingo, but I bet you the E can show about 453 Wikis stating something else.
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The reason the media is ignoring it is because it is going to have no effect on anything. The article says there are 1,000-2,000 Al-Queda. Wanna bet that if they kill all 2,000 of them that in a few more months there will be 2,000 more there to replace them?

This is not a war that can be won by military means. For every one of those suckers that you kill, 5 more will come to join the cause. Might as well have fertirlizer in those bombs they are dropping on Al-Queda, because that will be the outcome.

In 6 months from now, we will be in the same place as we are now, except more people will be dead, and we will have spent $100 billion more on this war. Of course that last part is the real reason for this big offensive...

Imagine if you were the company that supplied the weapons used in such operations. When would you want the war to end?
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Imagine if you were the company that supplied the weapons used in such operations. When would you want the war to end?
Eric, imagine if you were the soldier that died. Sure is easy to type on a keyboard from the states.
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Al-Queda is getting its clock cleaned...IMO..why there haven't been any serious attacks for a while.


Triple bomb attacks in Iraq kill 40, shaikhs among dead

Fifteen Iraqis killed in suicide bombing


And last week:


16 die in Iraq suicide bombing


78 killed by bombing at Baghdad mosque; U.S. offensive rolls north of capital
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Nice job Eric (this is a perfect definition of how you twist words and pick pieces).

My words after the EXACT comment you quoted!!
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why there haven't been any serious attacks for a while. Sure they blow up IED's and such in their own cities, but that is it. Though I hate G.W. he was right in saying keep the fight in Iraq.
and what did you post????? oh, deaths in Iraq try to READ the whole thing next time before the bias takes over.


I can't wait to see what Rebound says
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I'm sorry but honestly, have we done a poll of how many people OVER in iraq still support the cause? an unaltered report would really interest me...
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