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Old 10-12-2007, 12:09 PM
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You can do that when you rely on the US during war time
Or all the time!
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You can do that when you rely on the US during war time
WWII has been over for 60 years now. That was the last time they relied on the US Military to help them out during wartime.
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WWII has been over for 60 years now. That was the last time they relied on the US Military to help them out during wartime.
60 years is nothing Eric...You seem sure that there will not be a WWIII. I'm not willing to to take that chance by scaling back our military like those on the left who chant Peace and wear flowers in their hair.

When that time does come guess who the free World will turn to for help.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:06 PM
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60 years is nothing Eric...You seem sure that there will not be a WWIII. I'm not willing to to take that chance by scaling back our military like those on the left who chant Peace and wear flowers in their hair.

When that time does come guess who the free World will turn to for help.
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WWII has been over for 60 years now. That was the last time they relied on the US Military to help them out during wartime.

My Dad is 61, so ah...that isn't that long ago. I guess 60 years doesn't fall in the WIKI window of reliable facts.
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60 years is nothing Eric...You seem sure that there will not be a WWIII. I'm not willing to to take that chance by scaling back our military like those on the left who chant Peace and wear flowers in their hair.

When that time does come guess who the free World will turn to for help.

Venezuela??? China????
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Yup. It's all about wartime:

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Do you fail to see that they are spending simply to spend? Lots of money is made by the military contractors -- military is the largest business in the United States with the exception of oil. And then they need to justify the high spending, so the politicians look for reasons to go to war, and even lie about the reasons in order to make an excuse to go to war.

Our military is 10 times stronger than it needs to be. If we were to cut military spending by 90%, we could still destroy the whole world and take on any enemy in the world.

I get the impression that you guys would not mind if they took 90% of your income in taxes, as long as they were spending it all on military. Well, keep that additude and we will surely be heading in that direction.

As for me, I have a major problem with most of my tax money going to the military. The military is certainly not more important than health care or education or infrastructure. How many people die per year from war and terrorism, and how many die from cancer and heart disease? Answer: more Americans died in the last 12 hous from those things than have died in the past 5 years from war & terrorism. Then look at how much money is spent on military and how much is spent on health care.

Perhaps there are things we need to be protected from besides terrorism.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:24 PM
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And lets see, what has the military spending bought us....how many assaults on US mainland soil...oh..1, 9/11/2001 and then there was one in Hawaii back in 1941 by Japan (but that wasn't the mainland)....I'd say the money was spent pretty well. And how many real threats are there, oh..none.
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How about this Eric...We scale WAY back on our military spending aside from our nuclear weaponry. If we are threatened from an outside aggressor we turn to our only option left. We wipe them off the map with a nuclear strike.

Cold you might say; however, you just castrated our military in your earlier post and we are left with no other alternative.

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