Benazir Bhutto Assassinated - Page 2

asawadude · #11 12-27-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeMansX5

This was coming. I remember listening to her CNN interview driving home last month and Wolf asked her if she is worried about being assasinated and she replied that she rather die there than leave the country.

Bin laden in Pakistan, Musharraf playing his games and US keeps providing him with more money. Wonder who is helping taliban then. Where is Eric?

You see this one coming. She was lucky to survive the first suicide bombing attempt in October. She was foolish to think she would survive another.

No disrespect, LeMansX5, but I'm not seeing how Musharraf can be referred to as "Bin laden in Pakistan." He is many things, most of which are not positive, but I don't see him blowing up skyscrapers filled with thousands of people.

It would be interesting to read the ensuing dialogue regarding Bhutto. She must have had delusions of grandeur, that she was the next Nelson Mandela, which obviously she was not if anyone were to read about her two previous stays in office. Yet she represented a modern Pakistan which put her center in the target of the militants. IMHO, she should have waited to end her exile. She was a victim of her own miscalculation.

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Wagner · #12 12-27-2007, 01:40 PM

She felt she had enough backing from the US so that she was untouchable. She forgot she didn't live in the US. As far as the Bin Laden comparison, I don't think you were suppose to take that literally. However you'd be hard pressed to dis-associate Pakistan's leadership from terrorist groups. Why do you think India hauled ass to get a nuclear arsenal

LeMansX5 · #13 12-27-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by asawadude

You see this one coming. She was lucky to survive the first suicide bombing attempt in October. She was foolish to think she would survive another.

No disrespect, LeMansX5, but I'm not seeing how Musharraf can be referred to as "Bin laden in Pakistan." He is many things, most of which are not positive, but I don't see him blowing up skyscrapers filled with thousands of people.

It would be interesting to read the ensuing dialogue regarding Bhutto. She must have had delusions of grandeur, that she was the next Nelson Mandela, which obviously she was not if anyone were to read about her two previous stays in office. Yet she represented a modern Pakistan which put her center in the target of the militants. IMHO, she should have waited to end her exile. She was a victim of her own miscalculation.

I meant Bin laden is hiding in Pakistan and Musharraf is of no help in catching him. People in that part of world believe that he is playing a double role between US and BL/tali to keep both happy.

Eric5273 · #14 12-27-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue

You say what you want about western society, but we don't generally kill your political opponent.

Presidents
Lincoln, Garfield, McKinnley, JFK -- all assassinated
Jackson, Roosevelt, Truman, Ford, Reagan -- survived assassination attempts.

Presidential Candidates
RFK, George Wallace

Civil Rights Leaders
MLK, Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, Fred Hampton -- all assassinated

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No, we cast our dirty work on a patsy or a scapegoat.

Wagner · #15 12-27-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273

Presidents
Lincoln, Garfield, McKinnley, JFK -- all assassinated
Jackson, Roosevelt, Truman, Ford, Reagan -- survived assassination attempts.

Presidential Candidates
RFK, George Wallace

Civil Rights Leaders
MLK, Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, Fred Hampton -- all assassinated

We do our fair share of shooting in the USA. And imagine, that is all in the last 250 years...and is missing people like Robert Kennedy..

Eric5273 · #16 12-27-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner

We do our fair share of shooting in the USA. And imagine, that is all in the last 250 years...and is missing people like Robert Kennedy..

RFK = Robert Kennedy -- listed under "presidential candidates"

But yes, there are many others not on the list such as senators, congressmen, governors, mayors, and political activists.

E61Silver · #17 12-27-2007, 02:59 PM

I really don't think ether Kennedy was killed by political opponents.

diogenes! · #18 12-27-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue

I really don't think ether Kennedy was killed by political opponents.

With the possible exception of Lincoln, I'm fairly sure that none of those were "political" assassinations(or attempts). All we're either insane, racially motivated(redundancy alert!), attempting to achieve fame(or infamy) or a combination of the above. Altho' Booth(IMO) was nuts too, his motives were political.

I'm sure that a case could be made that Malcolm X's assassination was political. While local and federal law enforcement officials stood aside and let it happen, IMO the main motive was the blood-feud within the Nation of Islam organization. You'd need to use a very loose definition to call that power struggle "political".

Eric5273 · #19 12-27-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by diogenes!

With the possible exception of Lincoln, I'm fairly sure that none of those were "political" assassinations(or attempts). All we're either insane, racially motivated(redundancy alert!), attempting to achieve fame(or infamy) or a combination of the above. Altho' Booth(IMO) was nuts too, his motives were political.

Too funny!

Might I invite you to do some reading:

Eric5273 · #20 12-27-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue

I really don't think ether Kennedy was killed by political opponents.

In the history of assassinations, there was probably never an assassination of a head of state more fueled by political opposition than the JFK Assassination, with perhaps the exception of Julius Caesar. Even using the word "assassination" is too light of a word. The word "coup" is probably more appropriate. Yes, the populace was left in the dark (and obviously 40 years later, some are still in the dark), but that does not change what happened.

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