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Old 12-29-2007, 02:52 AM
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Regarding...

The Keneddy asassinations, a book called Double Cross, an inside story of mobster Sam Giancana (written, I believe by his brother) is a good read.

Here is Bhutto's last interview...things get quite interesting around the 5min mark...

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Old 12-29-2007, 12:24 PM
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As I wrote...

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One of the most important people recommended to the 911 comission by the families, is Sibel Edmonds.
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Oh, BTW, in her "open letter", Edmonds writes, "Four months prior to the terrorist attacks the Iranian asset provided the FBI with specific information regarding the ‘use of airplanes’, ‘major US cities as targets’, and ‘Osama Bin Laden issuing the order.’" Even your "most important" person says Osama did it. Can't have it both ways...
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Old 12-29-2007, 02:20 PM
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Well here you go, video of the gunman shooting at Benazir and even with this...PROOF...the government in Pakistan claims she wasn't shot. So that is still possible, I mean there is no visual of her getting hit by the shot and there is no video proof showing a bullet enter or exit (like JFK). But they can not deny there was not a shooter, and thus a shooter and suicide bomber at the same time....Eric... do the honors "CONSPIRACY".

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Old 12-29-2007, 05:43 PM
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It is so obvious what this is. But people will believe what they wish. You have a distraction, and then you have the assassination. The "official" investigation will claim that the "distraction" (in this case, the bomb) was the assassination.

This was a similar case to when RFK was murdered. Sirhan starts shooting wildly about 5-8 feet in front of him and empties his entire gun and even when finished, still keeps pulling the trigger as if there were more bullets to shoot. Security guards tackle Sirhan, but can't seem to get the gun out of his hands. Meanwhile, the autopsy later says Kennedy was shot at point blank range in the back of the head (he was facing Sirhan). And a count of the number of people shot and the number of bullet holes in the walls of the pantry find 11 shots. Sirhan had an 8-shooter. But Sirhan is not given any of this information. Instead he is given a public defender who does not present any evidence at trial and does not make a single objection during the entire trial. Sirhan himself claims he blacked out and does not remember what he did, and is quickly found guilty and sentence to life in prison.

In the case of Bhutto, all I have read so far is that she was shot 3 times in the head, and that was the cause of death. But to acknowledge a shooter means you have to do a real investigation. On the other hand, if the assassin was a suicide bomber, then you can simply call the investigation a dead end and blame it on whoever you want. I'd be shocked if this was not carried out by the ISI.

Al-Queda has been trying to assassinate Musharraf for years now -- there have been several attempts on his life in just the last year and about a dozen of the past 5 years. There is no way they would do something like this that would effectively assure his re-election.
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Islamic militants deny killing Bhutto.
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Even the Associated Press is full of crap. The last paragraph of that article says:

The dispute and conflicting reports about Bhutto's exact cause of death was expected to further enflame the violence wracking this nuclear-armed nation two days after the popular former prime minister was killed in a suicide attack.


Nice for them to contradict themselves within the same sentence. First they say the cause of death is in dispute, but then they say she was killed in a suicide attack.

Also, this is further proof of the government's involvement. Anyone who has followed any of these Islamic extremist groups over the years knows that when they carry out an attack, they always publicly claim responsibility and usually even brag about it. If they deny it, it means it wasn't them.
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there is no contradiction there. They are referring to the event. Not the actual action. You should really review the rhetoric and truly understand language before making stupid judgements.

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Even the Associated Press is full of crap. The last paragraph of that article says:

The dispute and conflicting reports about Bhutto's exact cause of death was expected to further enflame the violence wracking this nuclear-armed nation two days after the popular former prime minister was killed in a suicide attack.


Nice for them to contradict themselves within the same sentence. First they say the cause of death is in dispute, but then they say she was killed in a suicide attack.

Also, this is further proof of the government's involvement. Anyone who has followed any of these Islamic extremist groups over the years knows that when they carry out an attack, they always publicly claim responsibility and usually even brag about it. If they deny it, it means it wasn't them.
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:26 AM
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there is no contradiction there. They are referring to the event. Not the actual action. You should really review the rhetoric and truly understand language before making stupid judgements.
Yes there is. The article said:

the popular former prime minister was killed in a suicide attack


That is not true. She was shot by one or more assassins. Shooting someone with a pistol is not a "suicide attack". In their own article they say it is disputed about how she was killed. So by saying that she was killed in a suicide attack, they are giving their opinion and reporting that opinion as if it were fact.

Here is a blown up photo of an assassin holding a gun aimed at her:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids...XB.5RWWlN5tQ--

There were pictures of her bleeding from wounds in her head. So now the Pakistani government has backed down from their claim that she was killed by the bomb, and now they are claiming she was killed from a blow to the head. They claim her head was smashed into the sunroof of the vehicle as they were trying to evacuate her from the scene.
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Yes there is. The article said:

the popular former prime minister was killed in a suicide attack


That is not true. She was shot by one or more assassins. Shooting someone with a pistol is not a "suicide attack". In their own article they say it is disputed about how she was killed. So by saying that she was killed in a suicide attack, they are giving their opinion and reporting that opinion as if it were fact.

Here is a blown up photo of an assassin holding a gun aimed at her:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids...XB.5RWWlN5tQ--

There were pictures of her bleeding from wounds in her head. So now the Pakistani government has backed down from their claim that she was killed by the bomb, and now they are claiming she was killed from a blow to the head. They claim her head was smashed into the sunroof of the vehicle as they were trying to evacuate her from the scene.

You don't have the truth yet till they exhume her body and prove it so the AP was doing what news agencies do best, speculating.
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Well here is the proof she was shot, watch her slump over when shots ring out.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wor....new.video.cnn
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