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Old 01-02-2008, 10:30 AM
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Ripping CDs To Computer Is Illegal

Recording Industry Says Ripping CDs To Computer Is Illegal
Washington (DC) - The Recording Industry Association of America has filed a landmark federal lawsuit in Arizona, claiming that it is illegal for users to make copies of CD tracks to their computer for personal use.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/01/...er_is_illegal/
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:22 PM
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Heard that this morning, most BS thing I'VE EVER HEARD. So if you copy your own songs to your iPod, you've done something illegal. POS record companies need to get their crap in check.

Stop crying and while you're at it, stop charging 20+ dollars for a CD. I saw the old school Dr.Dre "Chronic" album going for $12.00........for a CD made decades ago...nice 'industry' they are worse then big oil.
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Heard that this morning, most BS thing I'VE EVER HEARD. So if you copy your own songs to your iPod, you've done something illegal. POS record companies need to get their crap in check.

Stop crying and while you're at it, stop charging 20+ dollars for a CD. I saw the old school Dr.Dre "Chronic" album going for $12.00........for a CD made decades ago...nice 'industry' they are worse then big oil.
The singers make millions in royalty,.....on one album there are probably 2-3 good songs and rest are crap so you pay $20 for just 2-3 songs.
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The singers make millions in royalty,.....on one album there are probably 2-3 good songs and rest are crap so you pay $20 for just 2-3 songs.


I'm not paying 20 bucks for 2 good songs, forget it
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The singers make millions in royalty,.....on one album there are probably 2-3 good songs and rest are crap so you pay $20 for just 2-3 songs.
My company has dozens of musicians and songwriters, and not a single one of them make millions in royalties.

Making that kind of statement is like citing how much money the owner of Facebook (another website) earns as your reason for complaining about the cost of X5World membership. After all, if one website owner earns billions, then I guess the owners of X5World must be wealthy too...right?

Perhaps the issue here is not going to affect the few elite wealthy musicians and songwriters, but it will affect the average musician and songwriter who works very hard for a living and does not make millions.
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Stop crying and while you're at it, stop charging 20+ dollars for a CD. I saw the old school Dr.Dre "Chronic" album going for $12.00........for a CD made decades ago...nice 'industry' they are worse then big oil.
Actually what is worse, is when I saw TAPES being sold in a gas station for 2 for $10! I feel thats $9.50 too much.

And you should see the RIAA office here...amazing! I guess this is how they pay for it. But they do throw some good parties I must say.
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if you don't like the price of something, it's not legal to steal it in protest. If you were the artist instead of the thief you'ld have a different perspective.

"I don't like the price of that new BMW, i'll just steal it, BMW makes enough money..."

I don't have the energy to describe once again how the process works, but a CD costs significantly more than the materials used to manufacture it. Also, CD's wouldn't cost so much if people weren't stealing music.

You all realize this, it's nothing new to you. But because you *can* steal it without much fear of consequence, you cry about the price as the justification. It's very simple psychiatry.


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Old 01-02-2008, 02:03 PM
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if you don't like the price of something, it's not legal to steal it in protest. If you were the artist instead of the thief you'ld have a different perspective.

"I don't like the price of that new BMW, i'll just steal it, BMW makes enough money..."

I don't have the energy to describe once again how the process works, but a CD costs significantly more than the materials used to manufacture it. Also, CD's wouldn't cost so much if people weren't stealing music.

You all realize this, it's nothing new to you. But because you *can* steal it without much fear of consequence, you cry about the price as the justification. It's very simple psychiatry.


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The comparison again doesn't make sense, IMO.

You can't copy to your iPod a cd you purchased. Where exactly did you "steal" anything?

I guess if you bought a BMW, then wanted to sell it privately and linked to BMW's site to give the specs on the car...would that be "stealing" from BMW?
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The comparison again doesn't make sense, IMO.

You can't copy to your iPod a cd you purchased. Where exactly did you "steal" anything?

I guess if you bought a BMW, then wanted to sell it privately and linked to BMW's site to give the specs on the car...would that be "stealing" from BMW?

I was talking in general, not specifically to the topic of ripping to a computer or ipod... sorry for confusion.
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You can't copy to your iPod a cd you purchased. Where exactly did you "steal" anything?

I guess if you bought a BMW, then wanted to sell it privately and linked to BMW's site to give the specs on the car...would that be "stealing" from BMW?
Two different examples. When you bought you BMW you got the title. Simple. Use it, sell it, trade it, it is your property.

When you bought the CD you didn't get title to the music, you got a license to listen to it. That license doesn't give you the right to copy it. Same situation as computer software, which is a better example than the BMW.
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