Keep in mind I don't think this incident alone is any reason not to vote for the man for President though I think it is a mistake especially running against a very patriotic war hero. His refusal to wear the American Flag as a lapel pin because of the War in Iraq is more of an insult in my book because it is a conscious decision and not an oversight.

Read above...It is the code.

I agreed with you Goony

I was saying that covering your heart maybe the 'code' but not the norm.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Side note: Best McCain quote ever:

When asked about Hillary attempting something in regards to Woodstock.....

"..I don't know about Woodstock, I was tied up at the time..."

Only problem for McCain will be how much longer, after 7.x years, people want to hear about war, war, war....

While I'm not saying this should not be a forefront issue....Rudi tried it with 9/11...didn't work out so well.

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

LOL...Must be a typo then becuse you placed a not in between your may (space)be.

Unless I'm reading that wrong...I am a bit tired this afternoon.

Totally cool, I'm finishing off a bottle of wine while I type

I was responding to the guy before you, that I quoted....

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

LOL...I am tired...I read that again and it can be read both ways.

I'm going to take a nap now.

I would almost rather McCain was SECDEF

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Thanks for the question.

My point was and still is that we have had people with loads of experience in positions of responsibility weather it's politicians CEO's or whatever and just like anyone else they make a mess of it.

I wasn't talking about politicians in particular but In fact politicians are in the forefront of screwing up, making bad decisions to the extent that it's pathetic.

Will someone with less experience be any better? I haven't got a clue. But the record of men in rulership proves that the results for the most part have not been beneficial for mankind. But then how could it be when the scope of the vision of men in general has been narrow at best and based on selfish motivation. My vision regarding rulership goes far beyond rulership by politicians and Businessmen. But that's a discussion for another time.

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