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Old 02-24-2008, 10:00 AM
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i don't get your point, it's ok for obama to not have experience because those that claimed to have it didn't?

imo, both situations suck, because either way we wind up with an inexperienced president.

One of these days an educated businessman will run for President and put these damn politicians out of a job. We need a CEO type to run USA Inc, not politicians (regardless of political party)
What do you think would have happened had Bloomberg thrown his hat in the ring?

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Old 02-24-2008, 10:21 AM
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What do you think would have happened had Bloomberg thrown his hat in the ring?

I think that the world would have imploded in racial disharmony, a jew, a woman and a black man all running for President. Joe Redneck's head would explode.

I'ld like to see Jack Welch running, if he can run GE he can run the world.
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:16 AM
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Are you backing him because he is from IL?
no, I'm backing him because I know exactly what he's done and hasn't done. He's done more than being a Jr. Senator...
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:21 AM
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i don't get your point, it's ok for obama to not have experience because those that claimed to have it didn't?

imo, both situations suck, because either way we wind up with an inexperienced president.

One of these days an educated businessman will run for President and put these damn politicians out of a job. We need a CEO type to run USA Inc, not politicians (regardless of political party)

Mitt Romney

Steve Forbes

Both ran, got nowhere....

Problem would always be, as it will be if Obama gets elected, Congress will NEVER fall in line with any of the beliefs or goals they attempt to achieve. For the life of me I don't know why Republicans were not voting for Romney in the primaries.....
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:38 AM
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no, I'm backing him because I know exactly what he's done and hasn't done. He's done more than being a Jr. Senator...
such as?

while you're at it, if someone could tell me what Hillary did as a NY senator I would appreciate that too...
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:50 AM
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such as?

while you're at it, if someone could tell me what Hillary did as a NY senator I would appreciate that too...
Ha-ha, "I have 35 years experience" doing what?? Lets see you were a wife for 8 years with your husband as President...how long has she been a Senator in a state she moved to because it had more political clout then Arkansas? I loved her "..I've been in 80 different countries.." line....yeah...as a wife/Senator...nothing else. She loves to tout her health care reform moves of the past decade or so...and what has all that accomplished? Zippy.


...gee I wonder if I'm bias...
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He is/was very active in Chicago as a community activist, fundraiser, etc. I know, I was at all his fundraisers and events about five or so years ago when I first met him. He also did a lot as a state senator, and actually knows the right kind of people he should surround himself with if he does become president.
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Mitt Romney

For the life of me I don't know why Republicans were not voting for Romney in the primaries.....
Both my wife and I voted for Romney. But you're right...With the House and Senate nothing can get through except business as usual.

With one exception. Liberal House, Liberal Senate and a Liberal President.

People should vote McCain for the stalemate alone.
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This is a few months old as Richardson is in the photo but it is now gaining momentum. This taken during the National Anthem Obama seems quite content not placing his hand over his heart. Considering this is a media event I'd say that is a mistake which could come back to haunt him in a General Election. Remember...He is going up against a war hero.

Add to this the ammunition and admission that he refuses to wear an American flag lapel pin because of the war in Iraq.




Now to be fair...Bush seems a little confused about the tradition but at least he was trying.



I think the proper decorum is to place your had over your heart during the Pledge, because it is just that... a Pledge of Honor. Show me a clip where Barack does not follow this decorum during the pledge, and I might think differently. As far as the Anthem, either stand in reverence (as Barack was doing in the photo and clip) or sing along. I thought that this was taught in elementary school?
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I think the proper decorum is to place your had over your heart during the Pledge, because it is just that... a Pledge of Honor. Show me a clip where Barack does not follow this decorum during the pledge, and I might think differently. As far as the Anthem, either stand in reverence (as Barack was doing in the photo and clip) or sing along. I thought that this was taught in elementary school?
Nope...From the offical US Code TITLE 36 > Subtitle I > Part A > CHAPTER 3 > § 301


(a) Designation.— The composition consisting of the words and music known as the Star-Spangled Banner is the national anthem.
(b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem— (1) when the flag is displayed— (A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;
(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and


(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1----000-.html
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