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Old 06-14-2008, 08:25 PM
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Polar Bears...and...Oil

So a new bill was passed to allow 5 companies to look for oil in territory known to have the bulk of the Polar Bear population. Of course environmental nazis were up in arms on this one. I was wondering, am I in the minority that thinks it is just fine and dandy for oil drilling to occur, responsibly, in animal rich environments? Why is it that some people feel this overwhelming need to place animals higher then the general populous welfare. Maybe they don't realize that oil/petroleum does more then just create gasoline.

One of their pro-animal rationales was that "..they are sensitive to noises and smells in their environment." Ah, is there an animal that isn't?
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:30 PM
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Responsibly, Is the operative word.

When greed and power are the bottom line
Responsibility goes out the window period.
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Old 06-14-2008, 08:37 PM
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Drilling for oil is one thing.

Producing it is another.

Shipping it from the wellhead is another thing again.

No, I don't think drilling is so bad, but production, pipelines, and shipping haven't always been carried out responsibly in the past in the Arctic.

It is a side point, but I wouldn't call it an animal-rich environment. That suggests that the polar bears aren't endangered. How about referring to it as the native habitat of an endangered species (I realize that you can get groups on both sides calling them endangered, or not endangered, but let's give it the benefit of the doubt)
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Responsibly, Is the operative word.

When greed and power are the bottom line
Responsibility goes out the window period.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:03 AM
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Responsibly, Is the operative word.

When greed and power are the bottom line
Responsibility goes out the window period.
Hence my use of it
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We can do a lot to reduce consumption and this will reduce the need for new exploration.
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Old 06-15-2008, 08:52 AM
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:35 AM
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The 118i won't cut it for American folks who want POWERRRRRRR (and drive a top speed of like, 81mph). Sure, it was dandy and more than enough for me. But I'm used to a X3 2.5i, and lets be honest, I KNOW there are people on this forum who think that's "underpowered". And in terms of acceleration feel and times, the 118i is about the same as the X3 2.5i.

Oil drilling should be permitted. If it doesn't happen now, it'll happen eventually. So why not start now?
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A mini s gets goos mpg and has power
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