insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Carry on.

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Rest In Peace SuperGreg <3

Great...there goes American History 101...thanks M.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

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No, no, thank WIKI!

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Rest In Peace SuperGreg <3

Race is still a big issue in this country and there are still people who will not (or will ) vote for Obama for no other reason than race. There have already been more death threats on his life than any other candidate in history - do we believe that's only because of his politics?

I think it's sad but true that politics are a dirty business. Many of the Obama adds are, and need to, establish him as the candidate for everybody, so his 'real life' experience growing up in a 'white' neighborhood/school system makes sense. I was in Atlanta a few weeks ago and saw some McCain adds with his 'black constituents', that makes sense for him.

Race should not be minimized in this or any other campaign, nor should it be a major focus. However, I believe racisim is too much of a hot issue (if we want to talk about it or not) for either side to not discuss directly. It will be interestng to see how both sides hanle it as the election get's closer.

Frankly, I think race is an issue for less than 1% of the voting public. Not even a drop in the bucket. It's past behaviors and where the candidate says he'll take the country that really matters.

For all of the conservatives I've talked with, we've said we'd much rather have a conservative over a white guy. Conservative - black, white, man, woman - doesn't matter one bit.

To a conservative there's no interest in race because we are not trying to classify people based on race and create dependency on the government - therefore buying votes.

IMO, liberal policies and payouts to "victims" of all flavors has done very little for those who are in need. Liberal policies enable victimhood. Since we started all of these "compassionate" programs has any ghetto or inner city improved? Crime, schools, employment? NO.

Take a fresh look - conservative principles will enable those who have been purposefully dependent on the government (thanks to the democrats) to work themselves into a better life.

Since when do you see baby birds with safety nets? 99.9% of them learned to fly and thrive. Our social safety nets are simply carrying our developing youth out of the nest and placing them on the ground compassionately. And we're stuck feeding them forever. It's pathetic that we're ruining millions of potential successful lives just because we think it's compassionate.

We became a strong, self-reliant country before any of these socialist welfare came into play - now look at us - a bunch of little piglets suckling on the mother sow.

When Obama losses the media will immediately ask "is it because he is black?" They will question his views second. And you can take that to the bank.

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"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What will they say when he wins?

If he won, they immediately say that McCain will be the most famous person to run for President and lose in American History. Because no one would ever forget who lost to the first black president of the United States.

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Not what will they say about McCain when Obama wins, what will they say about Obama when Obama wins?