You would have thought I'd learn by now.

Krimson, I'm not sure you require a jock strap

As for debating you, again...you haven't debated. To debate you must first state a point, you haven't, so that someone can make a counter point.


Quick....you're assuming he is actually trying to accomplish something politically. He isn't. He is simply PO'd that LabGuy has laced his boy, so he posted a link to pointless babble to see if he can generate some heat. I for one am happy to oblige

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Then by all means...oblige. I am far from PO'd. Please, Wagner...I beg of you.

Oblige what...you haven't made a point.

Simply state a policy and we could all state position on it.

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I've given you 20 that you failed to respond to.

Actually go back and check your own stuff....half of your list was 100% opinion the other was "I don't like McCain" nice list....

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Wonderful...

Sen. John McCain's record of working with Democrats easily outstrips Sen. Barack Obama's efforts with Republicans, according to an analysis by The Washington Times of their legislative records.
Whether looking at bills they have led on or bills they have signed onto, Mr. McCain has reached across the aisle far more frequently and with more members than Mr. Obama since the latter came to the Senate in 2005.
In fact, by several measures, Mr. McCain has been more likely to team up with Democrats than with members of his own party. Democrats made up 55 percent of his political partners over the last two Congresses, including on the tough issues of campaign finance and global warming. For Mr. Obama, Republicans were only 13 percent of his co-sponsors during his time in the Senate, and he had his biggest bipartisan successes on noncontroversial measures, such as issuing a postage stamp in honor of civil rights icon Rosa Parks.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008...re-bipartisan/

don't tell them that.

But honestly, after an entire life time in govi service...shouldn't you win that argument against someone who has > 200 days in service

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An unwavering defender of those I see worth protecting.

"promote the general welfare, not provide the general welfare"

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

That's why he is the Maverick, to the disdain of some members of his own party. No argument here.