Originally Posted by lakai

The funny thing about Obama supporters and Anti-McCain articles or blogs. They all focus on pointing fingers or fact checking McCain. Hardly ever do I see anything that has a focus on why people should vote for Obama. Its always about why people shouldn't vote for McCain.

Originally Posted by Krimson X

Been there, done that. Ask Wagner.

Originally Posted by Krimson X

Nope. I quoted it like it was reported. I acknowledged Obama's Fannie and Freddie political contacts. I even acknowledged Obama's receipt of funds from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So you cannot say that I inferred that Obama has ZERO political links to Fannie and Freddie.



I responded directly to Wagner's "half-truth" post about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

As far as Rev. Wright (to which Obama has offered as fair game during this political season) and others, I offer this:

If you are McCain or Gov. Palin it is ok to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God’s punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you’re just a good church-going Christian, but if you’re Obama and friends with a Rev. Wright who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you’re an extremist who probably hates America.

If you are Gov. Palin it is ok to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was “Alaska first,” and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're Obama everyone questions your patriotism because you do not wear a flag lapel pin or becaues you have a tenuous link to William Ayers.

Originally Posted by motordavid

lakai,
What I don't get is that you started this thread, it veered not surprisingly
to 'Bama vs. McPain, (neither of whom can really address, let alone "fix"
a decade plus worth of 3 Card Monte inventions by the Street), and
yet the O vs Mc drum keeps getting pounded, even by you, Thread
Originator...

I can hardly wait for the elections to be over...

Imo, this financial mess may be the most complex, serious non-war situ, this
country has faced in my lifetime.

Originally Posted by Krimson X

Nope. I quoted it like it was reported. I acknowledged Obama's Fannie and Freddie political contacts. I even acknowledged Obama's receipt of funds from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So you cannot say that I inferred that Obama has ZERO political links to Fannie and Freddie.



I responded directly to Wagner's "half-truth" post about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

As far as Rev. Wright (to which Obama has offered as fair game during this political season) and others, I offer this:

If you are McCain or Gov. Palin it is ok to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God’s punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you’re just a good church-going Christian, but if you’re Obama and friends with a Rev. Wright who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you’re an extremist who probably hates America.

If you are Gov. Palin it is ok to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was “Alaska first,” and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're Obama everyone questions your patriotism because you do not wear a flag lapel pin or becaues you have a tenuous link to William Ayers.

Originally Posted by Wagner

Nothing I said was half-true....but party fans do like to makes stuff up.

Originally Posted by Wagner

Unless of course you can produce actual data that shows Obama doesn't rank number 2 in taking money from Fannie/Freddie and doesn't have former F/F staff on his sidelines It's a shame, some had such high hopes of Obama being different. I know I did about a year ago. Sad to see he is the same, or conceivably worse, then every other politician.