You aint lyin' man. It is rediculous over here. Im not sure if anyone across the pond has heard of the Tony Martin case, but people have protesting the current laws in front of Tony Blair's abode for years since this took place. But its true, the criminals have more rights as citizens than you do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2500697.stm

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Sounds like a lot of you guys carry... I'm a shooting enthusiast, and I have a CCP in Penna, but I never actually carry. Even though, statistically, states with concealed carry laws seem to have less violent crime, it just seems weird to me that normal civilians are walking around with a cocked/locked semi-auto on their person. Sometimes I'm surprised there aren't more late-night bar-brawl, or road-rage shootings between otherwise law-abiding citizens... I guess the majority with CCP's are responsible, and don't want to screw up their privilage.
BTW, not saying I'm against it of course, just that I'm surprised it's still permitted - kinda reminds me of the Old West!!

God bless America!!

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It is a little wierd, no doubt. I don't have my permit yet, and I'm not sure what I'll do when I get it - I just want to get it in case. Mostly, I want it for my car and my boat.

I have a buddy that carries always. It is a little strange. I also know, though, that he's responsible and can handle it, so I don't worry. It seems that most nutballs don't have permits.

In Florida, you don't have to have a permit to own a gun - just to carry it concealed. I am not sure, but I think you can have it laying on your front seat in plain view, and that's OK. Stick it under the seat, and you have to have a permit.

That doesn’t stop an overzealous PD from arresting you or the DA from charging you. In state I have my CCW in, if someone entered your house, while you didn’t have to retreat, you couldn’t go looking for them also. You had to do everything possible to avert from deadly force. While that wasn’t the law, that is what was taught because of how some PD's and DA's are. Laws like the one passed remove all uncertainty if you did or did not do the right thing.

You know that many states have established reciprocity, so that the CCW in your home state may be honored in another. Check your particular state here.

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I got mine so that I didn't have to worry about any of the multitude of laws on how you could transport a firearm... In PA, the law says that when in the car, the firearm must be secured in a location 'inaccessible' to the driver, and any ammo must be secured in a separate inaccessible location. Also, firearms must be unloaded and secured when crossing a public road, even if it cuts through your property. With a CC permit, I don't have to be so diligent about going to all the trouble of following every single obscure rule for fear of slipping up and getting into BIG trouble.

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It's important to remember though that while reciprocity laws may allow you to carry in another State, you must know and abide by concealed carry laws of that State; in other words, if you have Florida permit (whether resident or non-resident) and use it while traveling to Texas, you will have to follow Texas concealed carry laws. So while you have no duty to retreat in Florida, you do have duty to retreat in Texas… until Texas passes a similar law.

That, and the fact that you don't have to call in new purchases - just do the Form 4473 and you're good to go. At least it's this way in Texas; other States may be different.

Ten Good Reasons To Ban Guns - a satire by Bruce Gold:

1.) Guns are used in self-defense over 2 million times a year. However, this makes the attempted crime a "non-event," which necessarily complicates the Police investigation. Without civilian ownership of guns, these Police investigations would not have been compromised. Civilians should leave crime prevention to the Police, who are properly equipped to investigate following the crime's completion.

2.) Some .004 percentage (4/1000 of 1%) of guns are used in crime each year. This is way too high. All guns should be banned

3.) Guns are unnecessary. In 98% of civilian gun defenses, no shot is fired. If you are not going to fire a shot, you clearly don't need a gun. This proves that the guns are unnecessary. Banning guns will prevent these unnecessary defenses.

4.) Guns cause criminal migration. In tough gun-law Washington, D.C., violent crime rates are very high. This high crime rate is caused by the migration of criminals from gun havens like Virginia. This migration is caused by the criminal's cowardly avoidance of armed householders and concealed-carry civilians. This criminal migration is detrimental to helpless unarmed citizens in no-gun areas and must be stopped. Guns should be banned everywhere.

5.) Most gun crimes are committed by inner city gangs and drug dealers. These relatively small and geographically restricted groups consistently commit the majority of gun crimes, which usually peak as turf wars erupt over Drug War changes. The best way to prevent this is by denying guns to all law abiding people everywhere.

6.) No woman needs to protect herself from rape, assault or murder. The Police will protect them by investigating the crime after the fact. Remember, Police paperwork is all the protection anyone really needs.

7.) Gun owners are disrespectful of authority. Good citizens should completely rely on the authorities. A failure to do so is an invariable sign of improper and overly independent attitudes. Failure to completely and absolutely trust and depend on the authorities is excessive democracy and sends a bad message to children.

8.) Gun owners engaging in self-defense are taking the law into their own hands. This is wrong. Only the Police and Criminals have the right to take the law into their own hands. It should be kept out of the hands of citizens.

9.) Children and young people should remain ignorant about guns. Real guns and real gun knowledge dissipate the fantasies created by violent video games and TV. Ignorance, once lost, can never be restored and needs to be protected.

10.)Guns reduce people's reliance on the Police and Government. This fosters a mistaken belief in "rights". No person has the right to question authority. No person should be less than 100% dependent on authority. This is fundamental to social order. Banning guns will help to establish the Order the authorities want. This is good.