NBA Play Offs - Page 9

StartX5 · #81 05-19-2009, 12:32 PM

Krimson, you have exactly point for Kobe. That's why it's hard to build basketball team around those type of players. Personalities reflect the result in basketball. Same to Iverson and you can tell me, how Iverson today? I am Sixer fan, Iverson used to player championship again Lakers, both these players gave me a feeling that they are cockiness player and very very selfish players.

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Quicksilver · #82 05-19-2009, 04:22 PM

So Kobe's cocky right? So what does that make Lebron,
or any other NBA player for that matter?
I think its rediculous when people try to hate Kobe or
any other player for being what they perceive to be cocky.

Watch any of the games and those players who have skills
all demonstrate swager.

Watch the Cavs games and watch lebron posing
everytime he makes some points. What about the Celtics, KG, Pierce, House?
ALL players demonstrate a certain level of confidence especially
when they have developed their skills and what it takes to get that Championship.

Remember basketball is also a phycological game.
If you can get you opponent to understand how much better
you are than they are, then you have a mental advantage
on the court. When the game is being played nobody has
friends on the basketball court. It's a game of wills
and determination and players are not concerned if someone
likes them or not.

Off the court is another matter entirely. I don't know
any of the players personally so in my mind It would
make no logical sense for me to make a determination
weather I like this person or not without having met them
and had ample time to access their personality.

Until that time arrives I believe I will stick to my analysis
of their skills on the basketball court.

StartX5 · #83 05-19-2009, 06:35 PM

Quicksilver, sorry bro whenever Lakers lost, i know how it feels for each player but not Kobe. LOL

NOVAX5 · #84 05-19-2009, 06:53 PM

You are just another Kobe hater like millions out there. Its the game of Basketball, whoever dominates skills wins. A lot of people hate Kobe for no reason. People jump on Lebron James bandwagon. He is too new to the NBA. He is going the same direction as other stars go, that is "FADING OUT". Shaq, Tim Duncan, Iverson, K.G everbody FADED OUT. Lebron hype will last for another couple of years and will fade out too. When comparing Kobe experience and Lebron, you are talking about a VETERAN (Kobe) and a NOOB (Lebron). All stars come and go, the KING is just another one. For the time being, KOBE still the best on court, period. Lebron needs to win championships (doesn't matter with whom) to get there.

NOVAX5 · #85 05-19-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Krimson X

The thing that separates Kobe from LeBron, Magic, Jordan and Bird is that Kobe's play makes the team look better than it is. LeBron, Magic, Jordan and Bird make their teammates better players. Seriously, Who would Pippen be without Jordan, Divac without Magic... Scott without Bird... Mo Williams without LeBron?

Kobe is an awesome individual player, but he fails to make an equally awesome team player.

Who is Shaq without Kobe? Who is Lamar Odom without Kobe? Who is Pau Gasol without Kobe? Take Kobe off the Lakers Dynasty equations you got no rings. Shaq was on Orlando for 4 years without a championships. He only got his first 3 rings when he joined KOBE. The argument is the same with Shaq in Miami, who is SHAQ without DWade? Its a team basketball, everybody needs everybody. Micheal wouldn't have won anything without his supporting cast. Throw in a whole bunch of highschool BB players and make Jordan win a championship, that would take him a lifetime to do. And please dont rank LEBRON in the same level of Bird, Magic Johnson, and Mike he is 3 million miles from their ranks. He is just another NBA tool to marketing. He is young, new, and energetic. But dont compare him to the NBA Greats, he needs another 10 years to do that. Stop praising him like he is a NBA god. After 3 years with L.A Kobe started winning championships 3 times straight and what is the KING doing right now after almost 5 years in the League? He is searching for his soul. Where is the RING? Or should the CAVS buy TIM DUNCAN, K.G, KOBE and RAY ALLEN too in order to win RINGS for Lebron?

Dannyell · #86 05-19-2009, 08:40 PM

NOVA you say lebron doesn't even compare with Kobe because he's got no rings?? thats a joke...look at how much James has done for Cleveland...that should be enough to put him head to head with Bryant end of story...

If you take both these 2 players out...i'd say LA would win over the cavs...so you might want to take into consideration Lebron's team mates the first 2-3 seasons he was at CAVS...because they were half as good as the ones Kobe worked with...

You complain too much about how people like james and hate jobe for no reason...u are the reversed angle to that m8...

NOVAX5 · #87 05-19-2009, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannyell

NOVA you say lebron doesn't even compare with Kobe because he's got no rings?? thats a joke...look at how much James has done for Cleveland...that should be enough to put him head to head with Bryant end of story...

If you take both these 2 players out...i'd say LA would win over the cavs...so you might want to take into consideration Lebron's team mates the first 2-3 seasons he was at CAVS...because they were half as good as the ones Kobe worked with...

You complain too much about how people like james and hate jobe for no reason...u are the reversed angle to that m8...

He hasn't done anything for CAVs except sell for ticket. Thats the facts. Get them a championship, now thats something. Karl Malone and Stockton had a good run for Utah but never brought home a championship. Thats sad. Lebron hasn't accomplished anything. The ultimate goal for a NBA player is GETTING A RING. Not POPULARITY. They will get traded in their career, so RING counts, nothing else. RING, RING, RING. Nothing else counts. 2 or 3 years later he get traded all you remember him is "the championships he won" not what he did for the CAVs. After 5 seasons and nothing. After 6 seasons KOBE got 3, thats THREE, RINGS. You are just into the THE KING HYPE, thats all. Remember Mike Bibby was ALMOST famous after Lakers and Kings Rivalry Playoffs games? Michael Jordan, RINGS. Larry Bird, RINGS. Magic Johnson, RINGS. Hakeem Ohlajuwan, RINGS. Tim Duncan, RINGs, Shaq, RINGs, Kobe, RINGS. Lebron James, HIGHSCHOOL Dunk Champion. 5 Seasons man, 5 seasons. He better wins one this year. You see and hear about Lebron everyday because He is NBA tool to marketing thats it. He is no where close to the likes of Kobe and the NBA Great, thats the fact.

NOVAX5 · #88 05-19-2009, 09:32 PM

I would take 3 Rings over High school Dunk Champion any day.

StartX5 · #89 05-19-2009, 11:00 PM

Novax5, didn't you watch basketball recently? Without Koke, Shad had won another championship with WW in Miami.
What Kobe got for Lakers after Shaq? Veteran Kobe? It's true becuase people waste money (hundreds millions $$$)
and time (7,8 years) to build a team around a selfish man like Kobe, what do they get?
If Lebron can't bring ring for the Cavs this year yet, it's understandable reason. Next few years you will see. But what Kobe [building a team around him] get nothing!
Again, Shaq gonna upsets if he reads your reply [LOL], you defense Kobe and trying to low Shaq down. Remind you that he won a championship with the Heat WITHOUT Kobe LOL

StartX5 · #90 05-19-2009, 11:08 PM

When i reply this thread, the Nuggest lead Lakers 76-74. Homegame usually a must win.
If Lakers lost this WCF series, he should call Iverson to follow retirement procedures
and fillout all necessary paperworks for 'retirement career' [LOL] and Kobe is another
worthless.
If they win, good luck to the Lakers and the Co. in NBA final [Orlando or Cleveland]

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