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As I read through the attached stories, I see conflicting witness statements that place both parties at some degree of fault. It's may be fun to guess at culpability, but we'll have to wait until the trial.
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At this point, adreneline joins that fear as you're scared for your life, and you've got survival instinct to do any and everything necessary to survive. You conquer Lucifer to the best of your abilities - by running him over - but that adreneline does not die down so quickly...you're still in fight mode until a block away, which is where REALITY kicks in! I don't know what world you live in, but, most folks I know do not quite register what happened so quickly. I'm actually surprised he stopped merely a block away. Had it been me, being so crazy, I likely would have still tried to beat the crap out of the big guy, regardless of his size. However, it makes total sense to me why a guy intimidated by someone's huge size could do as I described above. Remember, not everyone thinks like yourself, and it seems pretty clear this young guy was trying to avoid the situation. In any event, bully or not, this is a disaster for the family of the deceased (not sure I can call him a victim), and will more than likely deeply affect the suspect his entire life. Such a calamity.
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However, what I think you're missing is that not everything thinks like you, or I. Before I do anything, I think about the potential future consequences. Many folks simply think of making it through the situation, become irrational, and panic. While it clearly is not the best course of action to take, and may even seem stupid to us all, it does not mean the person had any negative intentions whatsoever. We all react differently to certain situations; especially those where we feel threatened.
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Very well thought-out post. If the witness statements from the articles hold up in Court, the defendant has 3 big things going for him. 1) "Lucifer" ran a red light in order to catch up to the kid. 2) Lucifer then blatantly and aggressively blocks the kid's egress with his Porsche. and 3) "Lucifer" gets out to continue the confrontation, attacking the defendant's property and blocking defendant's egress with his hulking frame. So: who is the aggressor?I will leave the question of whether this Porsche driver "deserved" what he got to a Higher Authority, but the other sad aspect is: Even if the kid gets acquitted 100% in criminal court, the aggressor's family will doubtless file a gigantic civil claim against the kid for wrongful death. Burden of proof for Plaintiff is easier to achieve in civil court. Any way you cut it, this kid's foreseeable future will be filled with stress, possible death threats, and financial hardship.
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I guess this would be one of those times when it would be prudent
to violate the law and use my cell phone and call the police. If I'm in the car and an idiot is going crazy outside of the car I can continue to take pictures of him and let him explain his behaviour to the police when they arrive. You would be surprised at how quickly people cool off when you start using your cell phone as they begin an escalation of any conflict. You just have to keep your cool and let people see themselves digging themselves a big hole. If they are reasonable then perhaps you can hang up and the problem goes away. If they are unreasonable they will probably go to jail and end up with a law suit for vehicular damage, and charges with assault with a deadly weapon. Quote:
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I'm not looking to pad my pockets with $$ in that situation...I'm looking to neutralize the immediate threat (assuming you are physically "blocked in" like this kid appeared to be). |
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Even I wouldn't allow it to come to that....
I'm looking to neutralize the immediate threat as well. I just believe avoidance is a necessary plan of action until there is no other choice. Every situation is different, the people involved are different and the decisions we can make are different. So I would never say I would or would not do this or that in every given situation. But I do believe that taking another human life by over reacting might not be a wise course. One could agree or disagree but that's my 2 cents. Quote:
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