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Old 06-28-2010, 03:23 AM
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Yeah but nobody is standing in line to but a Honda Accord.
Instead people are buying iPhones in droves so I guess that's
proof enough.

It took the industry 3 years for the Market to as you say "tighten".
Now we're gonna see how it shakes out. Competition is good....

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Car and Driver says the Honda Accord is probably the best 4 door sedan for the money or has been for years. But that doesn't mean people will buy one. I agree 3 years ago when the iPhone came out nobody could touch it---now there are like 13 Droid phones or something and the market has tightened.
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Old 06-28-2010, 05:12 AM
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I post "The iPhone 4 is still the best available smart-phone out there...."

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That is a biased and subjective opinion. We all drive BMWs-- are you saying they are the best available car out there ? It's all about consumer personal preference.
Biased? Are you saying that I'm an Apple fanboi?

Subjective? Well, of course it is. That's just my opinion that I posted.

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BGM's quote "The iPhone 4 is still the best available smart-phone out there" is found in at least 4 different review articles. Google the statement for confirmation.
And this one is strange. QS attributes this quote to BGM and then he says that at least 4 different review articles have it.

QS, I made up this very simple statement all on my own -- it was not very difficult. So what if 4 others think like I do...
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:42 AM
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I post "The iPhone 4 is still the best available smart-phone out there...."

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Biased? Are you saying that I'm an Apple fanboi?

Subjective? Well, of course it is. That's just my opinion that I posted.

then QS says

And this one is strange. QS attributes this quote to BGM and then he says that at least 4 different review articles have it.

QS, I made up this very simple statement all on my own -- it was not very difficult. So what if 4 others think like I do...
Consumer choice is not based on review articles. The Android sold more units it's first 3 months than the original iPhone did. Half the people standing in line at Apple stores are already Apple fanboys (or girls ha). Competition has become fierce now.
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:21 AM
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I post[B] QS says

And this one is strange. QS attributes this quote to BGM and then he says that at least 4 different review articles have it.
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That's really unimpressive. Post again when it will (if ever) sell almost 2 million units in 3 days
Keeping in mind most of those went to people who already have an older version of the same phone (like myself and most here).

If it were 1.7M new iPhone sales as the Apple marketing machine wants you to beleive that would be impressive.

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Keeping in mind most of those went to people who already have an older version of the same phone (like myself and most here).

If it were 1.7M new iPhone sales as the Apple marketing machine wants you to beleive that would be impressive.

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Repeat business is a GOOD thing! It means their customers are satisfied and want to continue their experience with the company.

1.7m phones in 3 days is a feat no matter where the customers are coming from.
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Sales are sales, doesn't matter who exactly buys it as long as company (Apple) gets their $$$. It's even better (for Apple and/or At&t) that the previous customers bought it since many of them most likely paid more for "early upgrade" than the new customers for "new activation"
That just sounds ridiculous. You mean Apple would rather not have new customers, but rather just recycle new models to old customers? With no growth in the subscriber base?

New customers are infinitely more valuable than old ones. It appears to be easy to get the old customers to buy a new phone, what they need to grow is conversions.

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That just sounds ridiculous. You mean Apple would rather not have new customers, but rather just recycle new models to old customers? With no growth in the subscriber base?

New customers are infinitely more valuable than old ones. It appears to be easy to get the old customers to buy a new phone, what they need to grow is conversions.

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Well they certainly aren't losing customers - and some of those old phones are going to new customers as well so the growth is happening.

Conversions, new customers and old ones, the iPhone is kicking ass in the marketplace whether people want it to or not.
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Of course growth is good, I never said that it's not
I apologize, I thought you said that growth was irrelevant. The quote was "sales are sales, it doesn't matter who buys it, and that it is even better for Apple if these early sales are to previous customers" I must have read it wrong. I assumed that people who traded in their old phones didn't keep using the phones they traded in.
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That just sounds ridiculous. You mean Apple would rather not have new customers, but rather just recycle new models to old customers? With no growth in the subscriber base?

New customers are infinitely more valuable than old ones. It appears to be easy to get the old customers to buy a new phone, what they need to grow is conversions.

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