iPhone 5 Thread

[Quicksilver]

Not quite accurate. Regardless of OS up-grades few devices are rendered
Obsolete. I have a non intel Mac Pro that is hardware upgradable and
Still does the job. So it really depends on the needs of the user.

There are many users of older machines running older Mac OS versions
who have kept their Machines for the specific purpose of running older OS versions.
Those machines run applications that newer machines no longer
Support. Nothing obsolete about that.

Originally Posted by PersonaNonGrata

Sure but Apple will inevitably, sooner than later, render your device obsolete when a new OS comes out that is not supported by older hardware. We just sold a Mac Pro (not a MacBook Pro) that no longer was upgradable because its Intel chipset was not supported by the newer OS versions. Same thing with the iPhone 3G not working with iOS 5.

I know that is the way it goes with Apple and people can take it or leave it but I can't agree that Apple helps users stay current with a simple OS upgrade. They don't make any money that way.

[PersonaNonGrata]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Not quite accurate. Regardless of OS up-grades few devices are rendered
Obsolete. I have a non intel Mac Pro that is hardware upgradable and
Still does the job. So it really depends on the needs of the user.

There are many users of older machines running older Mac OS versions
who have kept their Machines for the specific purpose of running older OS versions.
Those machines run applications that newer machines no longer
Support. Nothing obsolete about that.

I suppose it's always dependent on the needs of a particular user. Heck, I'm sure that there are some people happily using an original iMac, translucent CRT body and all.

Our situation was absolutely a dead end. Hardware was too old to support newer OS which is turn limited us to use of an older version of Adobe Creative Suite (PShop, Illustrator, etc). Newer version of Adobe stuff required newer OS. Newer OS didn't work with older hardware. Result? What was a $3000 Mac Pro was a beautiful room decoration. We sold it on eBay and someone will get use out of it for whatever limited purpose they have.

Do I think that Apple has planned obsolescence? Absolutely. Just look at the new generation of MB Pros and Airs. They are awesome machines but try to add RAM or change a battery. No dice. So much is proprietary and even soldered in place that the user is hogtied.

Do I think that there are people who feel the need to upgrade despite not really having the need? Absolutely. This is not planned obsolescence or the fault of Apple but rather a self imposed obsolescence by those who feel they need to be on the bleeding edge.

[Quicksilver]

Self imposed obsolescence by those who feel they need to be on the bleeding edge is exactly right.
Those just doing mail and the Internet need to seriously consider their needs.
If I didn't need the horsepower and high end software I wouldn't be considering
Any upgrades period.

[PersonaNonGrata]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Self imposed obsolescence by those who feel they need to be on the bleeding edge is exactly right.
Those just doing mail and the Internet need to seriously consider their needs.
If I didn't need the horsepower and high end software I wouldn't be considering
Any upgrades period.

Guess what my MacBook looks like?

It's black. That should tell you how old my MB is. Circa 2007. Would I love a sexy new aluminum MB Pro? Heck yes but I just can't justify it because I don't use my MB for any heavy lifting.

I love the newest stuff but I do have my limits.

[X5X]

I'm getting mine in a week or so, but I still think its a both practical and aesthetic downgrade... Way too big...

[PersonaNonGrata]

Originally Posted by X5X

I'm getting mine in a week or so, but I still think its a both practical and aesthetic downgrade... Way too big...

That's what SHE said!

It's funny you think it's too big. I'm sure many people were hoping for a big screen to compete with Samsung but I do not like the idea of lugging around and holding to my head something akin to a mini-tablet. It looks silly and cannot be comfortable.



I had heard that Apple's philosophy on the size of the iPhone was based on the average person's thumb span. The screen should not be wider than the thumb can reach so one handed operation was still possible. I guess since Apple didn't want to go wider, they went taller. I'll have to wait until I get "hands on" with the 5 but I do think that the iPhone 4 is a pretty ideal size.

[indianapolisX5]

Why wouldn't they have their stupid, overpriced dock to Lightning adapter ready and available at launch?? Weeks without music & charging in the car? I'll wait.

[PersonaNonGrata]

Originally Posted by indianapolisX5

Why wouldn't they have their stupid, overpriced dock to Lightning adapter ready and available at launch?? Weeks without music & charging in the car? I'll wait.
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What's worse is that we'll have to wait even longer before reasonably priced aftermarket versions become available. $29 is outrageous.

[LeMansX5]

The lightening adapter will not work for external speakers e.g. in the car.

Apple Lightning Adaptor Kills iPod Out on BMW, Mini Models | Autopia | Wired.com

[brian5]

I'm most of you that are aware of the iPhone 5, have seen the ad by Samsung doing an (unfair) comparison of the Galaxy S III vs. iPhone 5.

I found the response by the fanboi's pretty funny