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It's a NO with a caveat. *If* vaccines were clean...I'm for it and can absolutely see the benefit.

Unfortunately, reality is these things are laced with substances known to be harmful to our brains.
In some cases, live polio was given in vaccinations...not cool!
What isn't cool about polio vaccine, live or not? Eradicating polio is a pretty cool thing in my book.
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What isn't cool about polio vaccine, live or not? Eradicating polio is a pretty cool thing in my book.

Yes, but...

78 percent of Pakistani children with polio were given polio vaccines
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:05 PM
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money as a concept is a tangible equivalent of time put into labor. time = money. the tangible portion of it could be anything, from shells, gold, to paper currency...
you make $5 an hour at work, you need you grass cut, you cut it yourself, since you can't afford to pay someone to cut it for you... your time = $5 an hour...
you make $100 an hour, you need your grass cut, you hire someone to cut it for you because 1 hour spent cutting grass could be spent with your family, tv, or just sitting and watching another guy cut it for you for $5 ah hour... so... money = time...

some people accumulate a lot of other people's time - these are millionaires and the like... regardless, if the wealth is in shells, or gold or dollars... some people manage to dig the wealth from the ground, gold, oil, iron, etc... that digging diminishes the value of the money, as the money created not by time put into the labor but by creating the symbols (currency) of the time of labor, while not backed up by labor...
I cite Karl Marx, his work "Capital"... i am grossly paraphrasing, it was good 20-25 years as i glanced inside that book...

you are citing the same things that i mentioned, greed, lust (women have caused a few conflicts), food, resources... i am not following your thought line where the powers of this world are treated a bit different then the rest of us ... maybe they can buy a few more days of their life, but - they still take a dump same way as i do, and if they are struck by a lightning, they are toasted, like anyone else would... i don't think they take super pills that prevent cancer (i think Steve Jobs could afford a super pill and would stay alive)... so... i agree with most of your points but not all...

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money as a concept is a tangible equivalent of time put into labor. time = money. the tangible portion of it could anything, from shells, gold, to paper currency...
you make $5 an hour at work, you need you grass cut, you cut it yourself, since you can't afford to pay someone to cut it for you... your time = $5 an hour...
you make $100 an hour, you need your grass cut, you hire someone to cut it for you because 1 hour spent cutting grass could be spent with your family, tv, or just sitting and watching another guy cut it for you for $5 ah hour... so... money = time...

some people accumulate a lot of other people's time - these are millionaires and the like... regardless, if the wealth is in shells, or gold or dollars... some people manage to dig the wealth from the ground, gold, oil, iron, etc... that digging diminishes the value of the money, as the money created not by time put into the labor but by creating the symbols (currency) of the time of labor, while not backed up by labor...
I cite Karl Marx, his work "Capital"... i am grossly paraphrasing, it was good 20-25 years as glanced inside that book...

you are siting the same things that i mentioned, greed, lust (women have caused a few conflicts), food, resources... i am not following your thought line where the powers of this world are treated a bit different then the rest of us ... maybe they can buy a few more days of their life, but - they still take a dump same way as i do, and if they are struck by a lightning, they are toasted, like anyone else would... i don't think they take super pills that prevent cancer (i think Steve Jobs could afford a super pill and would stay alive)... so... i agree with most of your points but not all...

TerminatorX5...thanks for bearing with me. I'll do my best to explain further. I was in a rush and couldn't expound with my previous post.

Yes, as far as I know, they take a dump like anyone else. I suspect that they have access to the best known health care. Did you watch any of the vids with Dr. Blaylock or Dr. Glidden? There are known things to do and avoid for preserving your health. The elites know this and probably so much more.
But, on a much larger scale...think about this for a minute or two:

If you were so wealthy and you could literally create money out of thin air, would you get bored with money? I mean seriously, how many yachts, homes, islands, countries to own before you get bored with the "game"? So, what's left? Screw with humanity.
I think we've got some very unsatisfied people at the top of this entire pyramid that have turned their attention to destruction. No longer satisfied with seeing some humans advance in wealth, education and health...they are destroying those things. Is this making any sense? Can you see how the "game" got boring and how it's turned into dominating humans on every level? They are acting as our slave owners...and sadly, most slave owners don't empathize with their slaves.
I don't think boredom is the only reason for destroying the essentials in our lives. I happen to think that this idea of them using these chemicals to shut down the right side of our brain and only using the left side...makes us much more "computer" like. Do you think it's easier to control someone that has consciousness or a computer?
If you possess consciousness...I would think that you would have clarity of who you are, what you are and how you fit into this experience here on earth and the universe and beyond. Could there be power in that kind of knowledge? I'd say yes. What if through consciousness you knew how to live completely independent from the "system"? What if God really did give us the ability to heal ourselves and not be dependent on a man made healthcare system? What if we knew how the power structure built around us was really the Wizard of Oz? I could keep going...but, would that be something that only a few would want to know and keep to themselves? I would think so. Otherwise, they would no longer possess the power to enslave.
So, assuming you're a slave owner....do you want your slaves to have consciousness or be more computer like? Obviously, I think you want computer like humanoids...easily programmed and manipulated.
This my friend is the ultimate battle that I think we wage with those at the top of the pyramid and the rest of us that have been kept from reaching our true conscious state. A battle between consciousness and evil. How else can I say it?

It's obvious that there are those like JCL and many others that would prefer us to be more like computers. Some seemingly love the prison that has been built. I don't. I want freedom from all the things that bind me to this sick system of greed, corruption and the ultimate destruction of our consciousness.

Wow, hope this makes some sense. I've been watching election results...unreal.
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It's obvious that there are those like JCL and many others that would prefer us to be more like computers. Some seemingly love the prison that has been built. I don't. I want freedom from all the things that bind me to this sick system of greed, corruption and the ultimate destruction of our consciousness.
I didn't suggest we should be more like computers. I simply implied that if people understood logic, were rational, and had good analytic skills (all left brain functions....) then they could perhaps discern between conspiracy theories and real life. Now that would be cool.

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I didn't suggest we should be more like computers. I simply implied that if people understood logic, were rational, and had good analytic skills (all left brain functions....) then they could perhaps discern between conspiracy theories and real life. Now that would be cool.

Thanks for playing!

I wish you'd stop using conspiracy theorist as not being part of real life. Since when is it wrong to question known liars and criminals?

Granted, there are some far out ideas. But, live and let live JCL. If you attempt to "cleanse" the thoughts and expressions of people that question ANYTHING...isn't that a form of genocide? It's kind of like saying....everything would be so much better if everyone agreed with my way of thinking. No it wouldn't! BTW, I'm not saying YOUR way of thinking....just those who disagree with anyone voicing their concerns over what is being done.

It's a very interesting game...ad homonyms used to deflect potential truths from being exposed. Think about the context in which the term conspiracy theory is used...it's derogatory, no?
What is a conspiracy?
"In criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime at some time in the future. Criminal law in some countries or for some conspiracies may require that at least one overt act must also have been undertaken in furtherance of that agreement, to constitute an offense. There is no limit on the number participating in the conspiracy and, in most countries, no requirement that any steps have been taken to put the plan into effect (compare attempts which require proximity to the full offence). For the purposes of concurrence, the actus reus is a continuing one and parties may join the plot later and incur joint liability and conspiracy can be charged where the co-conspirators have been acquitted or cannot be traced."

Now, why is wrong to question and theorize about known criminals?
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I wish you'd stop using conspiracy theorist as not being part of real life. Since when is it wrong to question known liars and criminals?

Granted, there are some far out ideas. But, live and let live JCL. If you attempt to "cleanse" the thoughts and expressions of people that question ANYTHING...isn't that a form of genocide? It's kind of like saying....everything would be so much better if everyone agreed with my way of thinking. No it wouldn't! BTW, I'm not saying YOUR way of thinking....just those who disagree with anyone voicing their concerns over what is being done.

It's a very interesting game...ad homonyms used to deflect potential truths from being exposed. Think about the context in which the term conspiracy theory is used...it's derogatory, no?
Did you just use my screen name reference and the phrase 'known liars and criminals' in the same paragraph? Thanks for that, way to go in a debate.

It occurs to me that you may not be able to tell the difference between a conspiracy theory and real life. Earlier, you called it 'going down the rabbit hole', I believe.

"Disagreement....cleanse the thoughts of those who question....genocide". See what you did there? You just said, or at least suggested, that those who don't agree with you are like murderers.

I don't want to debate what you call potential truths. I want to debate real truths. You know, like true ones. A complete lie is a 'potential truth' I suppose. It might be accidentally true. But why don't we just call it what it is, an unsubstantiated claim that doesn't pass the litmus test, to use a phrase from earlier in this thread.

Of course conspiracy theorist is a derogatory term. But it is more polite that whack job or nut, two other phrases that have been used in this thread to describe your ideas.
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I remember this article!

My favourite parts are the 8 foot tall alien lizard people living at the centre of the earth in the molten lava, and secretly running a single world government; CHAOS and CONTROL on Get Smart being real; and germ theory being wrong.

My biggest disappointment is that the Columbian chapter of the Illuminati is only responsible for the district of Columbia, CBS, Columbia University, and one of the space shuttles. I was sort of hoping they had also created British Columbia, where I live, as a sort of joint venture with their UK counterparts. It would have all fit together then.
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well... the science was not at the same stage as today, but hitler managed to get german people brainwashed... Marat, Robespier (spelling?) of french revolution???... doctor Guiliom creates guiliotine and his own head rolls off... did they have the technology back then? probably not, but they still managed to do same things that are being done today...
my greatgrandfather lived off land in the hills of mount ararat in turkey, kebobed lamb, the fattier the better and drunk wine and water from the creek... died of old age but not before fathering last kid at 65... and seeing him grow too... maybe he died from cancer... maybe not...
i think you point about food chain being poisoned is right on spot... other points about brain... well... you are giving the rich too much credit they don't deserve.. lol...
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