F#CK the *cure*...Find the CAUSE - Page 3

tynashracing · #21 11-05-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JCL

Yes, we are poisoning our water and air. And our oceans. I think it is because we as a society haven't figured out the consequences of our actions, or how to develop the political will to do something about it. Take climate change...there are still disbelievers, despite the scientific consensus.

That doesn't make me content to accept things. I'm debating with you, aren't I?

And you know that Sheryl Crow doesn't have brain cancer, don't you? And that she is probably not very qualified to determine a causal link between radio frequencies and cancer, given the distinction between ionizing and non-ionizing radiation? Why would you accept her comments on a talk show as proof, or even as a credible theory? It is another example of people not applying critical thinking skills. Not just you, lots of people. But you quote her comments as if they are founded on some logical basis.

And how about if we cut the rape comments? They have no place in a debate.

Agreed. I was over the top on my comment concerning exposure to being raped. I wasn't intending for it to mean YOU...just those that put their head in the sand...so, my apologies. You're a good guy JCL. You've provided a ton of info on these forums...and I respect that!

So, back to our discussion:

You understand that we're getting poisoned but feel "it's due to society not having figured out the consequences of their actions, or the political will to do something about it".

Your perspective on the mass scale poisoning sounds like it's all innocent and golly gee whiz if we could only figure this thing out and if the politicians would just quit thinking about being a politician...then we could clean things up.
I find that thought to be a bit naive.

I'm going to provide some links...a lot of links!

Maybe you'll decide to watch...maybe you won't. It's my last attempt to try to get you to see the big picture...that they're doing it ON PURPOSE. Innocence left the building a long time ago. And political will???? Bought and paid for...plain and simple. Govt's are corporate run institutions today...I can put some links up for that one too!

If you can't see this after exposing yourself to the links below...then I don't have a prescription strong enough to open your eyes and mind. Somehow though, I feel like I'm being played

I suspect that you are well aware of what's going on...but like to play devils advocate. Maybe not. If you're truly interested, you'll watch and hear various perspectives. Are these references "all knowing"?...nope. But, they do make sense to my ears. Anyway...

I know this is voluminous...but, some time invested will provide some insight into some of the things that I am talking about.
The end video is not something that I normally tune into....but, it's pretty passionate and frankly, hits the nail on the head with the political process. BTW, I've never researched this guy or his music.
I also added some comedic relief in the next to last video. All work and no play makes Jack...

Air:

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length) - YouTube

Water:

Blaylock: Fluoride's Deadly Secret - YouTube

'The Fluoride Deception' - Christopher Bryson - YouTube

Food:

Conversations w/ Great Minds - Jeffrey Smith GMOs - Seeds of Deception P1 - YouTube

Conversations w/Great Minds - Jeffrey Smith GMOs - Seeds of Deception P2 - YouTube

Documentary on Monsanto...
The World According to Monsanto GMO Documentary - YouTube

Vaccines:
Interview with Sherri Tenpenny about dangers of vaccines - YouTube

Healthcare:

The History of Modern Healthcare with Dr. Peter Glidden - YouTube

Dr. Peter Glidden on Curing Type 2 Diabetes - YouTube

Dr. Glidden - Cholesterol, A Necessary Component of Human Biology - YouTube

Politics:

The False Left Right Paradigm - YouTube

MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan touches upon the false left/right paradigm 8/10/11 - YouTube

Chris Rock debunks the 2-party, false left-right paradigm - YouTube

And the grand finale:

WARNING: Strong Language

New Video: Ice Cube "Everythang's Corrupt" Polictically Charged Hip-Hop | Vibe

I added this one only because this is likely what the youth are watching. I don't agree with all of the content...especially the remark about capitalism...IMHO, he's mistaken cronyism with capitalism. I'm sure there are other references that I would disagree with as I've not looked up the lyrics. But, kudos to him for touching on the entire system being corrupt.

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rebound · #22 11-05-2012, 09:05 PM

Eric, is that you?

pink_roundel · #23 11-05-2012, 09:11 PM

Interesting topic, just adding my 2¢ yes I do believe big government poisons our food water etc.. However people are so caught up in there little box nobody pays attention. By the time enough people discover the truth it will be to late. If your interested here are 2 documentaries that are eye opening (food inc.) and (fork over knife) it's on Netflix if you have it. Like I said just my opinion check them out and let me know what y'all think.

TerminatorX5 · #24 11-05-2012, 09:40 PM

the cavemen did not have much of impact on the surroundings... but.. the wooly mammoths are gone... so.. the cavemen grow into a bigger society and the local cave's shaman realizes, that he does not have to hunt for food, all he has to do is BS his way around and the hunters wil bring him the food...

fast forwards a bit... now we have pharaohs, at the top of the food chain, who force a lot of people into servitude, with the help of the next tier of privileged, the nobility, who manipulates the next layer, the soldiers who keep the general populace at bay... the environmental impact is less noticiable, but the politics are born, as the underdog elite, the priests (the shamans!!), are the ones installing and removing the pharaohs, to futher their agenda, such as getting the resources without extending much of effort (granted, the temples kept the corporate knowledge)... the priest are doing their deeds with the help of "gods", and they manipulate the "public opinion" - this pharaoh was bad by the gods and they struck him down, and they installed the other pharaoh, who is good by the gods... the pharaoh is just is a marionet in the hands of the priests...

fast forward, say to our times... we have democracy but not direct popular vote... the last standing european dictatorship, Belorus, has direct popular vote... our military fights communist ideas but lives in a communist bubble of free education (heavily subsidised), free medical, early retirement - i find it very interesting how can society give them the communist perks and charge them to fight communism?...the priests have changed their ropes and now they are corporate barons, they still like the idea to get the resources and not hunt for them... when in Rome, do as romans do - and the romans wanted bread and entertainment... so, you have the football, the baseball (and Congressional hearings about how to play those games, as the Congress has no OTHER things to worry about), and then you need to feed the masses - the well fed do not revolt... so, the priests.. errr... the corporations invent preservatives, that extend the shelf life of any given product, and the store shelves are full of all kinds of food... the quality of the food is not the same any longer, but hey - your body can't tell the difference... wait... was it corn syrup? or sugar? anyways... do as romans do - keep the legions occupied, do not let them back into metropoly, have them fight wars, overfeed your population, relax, rule the world, enjoy the life...

hahaha, i went waaay out on the limb with this one, didn't i?

TerminatorX5 · #25 11-05-2012, 09:46 PM

ohh... and since the romans are too fat to work, let the provinces do their work for them... i mean, let the chinese built toys for the kids, computers for the grown ups... bangladeshese will dress everybody up...
you know, if the chinese government will decide to open up their DIRECT distribution stores in the US, and sell the goods that they manufacture in China for the US market directly, at a 10% markup, they will UNDERCUT all the prices in the US - the WalMart or Target will look like super luxury outlets in comparasion to the chinese direct store, while selling identical crap...

JCL · #26 11-05-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rebound

Eric, is that you?

you have to have been around here for a few years to get that one

JCL · #27 11-05-2012, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tynashracing

Your perspective on the mass scale poisoning sounds like it's all innocent and golly gee whiz if we could only figure this thing out and if the politicians would just quit thinking about being a politician...then we could clean things up.
I find that thought to be a bit naive.

I don't think it is all innocent. I just don't think that there is a wizard behind the curtain.

The failure of a group to collectively do what is right or best doesn't define that there is a sole bad guy doing evil, pulling the puppet strings. I find that line of thinking to be a bit paranoid.

JCL · #28 11-05-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tynashracing

I know this is voluminous...but, some time invested will provide some insight into some of the things that I am talking about.

They are from You Tube. That is not an education source, it is an entertainment source that targets a generation focused on sound bites instead of research.

tynashracing · #29 11-06-2012, 12:15 AM

Serious topics can't be posted to youtube????
Listen to Dr. Russell Blaylock. Also, Dr. Glidden references a published report or two.
Oh well. Like I said, I hope the system you trust takes good care of you.

I heard Dr. Blaylock say that either this is a conspiracy for population control or they are incredibly stupid.

Ken: Hey JCL...the sky is blue you know...here's a video showing the color of the sky.

JCL: You saw that on youtube. Youtube is for entertainment only...never mind that the video showed a blue sky...it can't be proven...since it's on youtube.

Lead a horse to water...

TerminatorX5 · #30 11-06-2012, 12:27 AM

you guys started an interesting subject but it came down to petty stuff real fast...

there are facts, regardless of the media - it could be carved in stone or exist in electrons in some virtual clouds - the sky is blue due to laws of optics...

there are chemical preservatives in the food that kill people... some of them are addictive... corporations can provoke wars - we go to save Kuwait from hussein (oh my God, oil has NOTHING to do with it!!!!), and we are not bombing moscow for athrocities in Chechnya... and Darfur goes unnoticed...oh... yeah.. no oil in darfur...

follow the money (greed has moved this world, greed and lust), and half of the conspiracy theories will be resolved... follow the energy sources and food - and the other half of the conspiracies will get resolved...

after we resolve those - the only one left, will be the Roswell - are there aliens at the base 51???

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