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Old 10-08-2013, 01:33 AM
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^^ he said he cannot take sides....but then says something like ''i dont want to be put in a situation like the SUV driver ...to have to commit a crime to get out of there'.

Everyone spinning there sides...
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Old 10-08-2013, 08:16 AM
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there are accidents... and then, there are deliberate acts...

Accidents happen when there is no intent to cause harm, injury or damage but sh!t happens (due to lack of training, lack of knowledge, plain stupidity, whatever...)

Deliberate acts - this is a different story... you can't throw your bike in front of a car in an attempt to slow it down to divert its direction and then claim that you operated a faulty equipment and did not know that placing your vehicle in close proximity to other vehicle will cause damage and/or injury - even making such a claim makes you an incompetent driver/motorcycle rider...

This falls along the lines:

but Your Honor, I am innocent, I was peeling an apple with my 12" blade, and the victim walked by, slipped on the peel and fell right on my knife... 7 times in a row...
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If you have ever driven a bike, or any other manual shift vehicle, shit even put your X5 into manual mode and shift it yourself, I can show you ways to slow down without touching the brakes that will make your head snap.

I used to co drive my friends Porsche for autocross. I could down shift that so hard, the rears would lock up. And in a Porsche, with engine over the rear wheels, that should tell you something.

On a bike, I can lock up the rear downshifting from 6 all the way to 1. The only time the rear would spin is when the bike would slow down enough, or if I clutched in.

That biker is full of shit no matter how you slice it. I wish I was interviewing him. Make that pussy shake after I tare up every comment he makes.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:48 PM
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Unwillingness to take responsibility....

One of the cyclists, Christopher Cruz, faces charges of unlawful imprisonment, reckless endangerment, reckless driving, endangering the welfare of a child and menacing. NYC Police say Cruz triggered the initial confrontation with the SUV by slowing down his bike and then going to confront Lien after being bumped. Cruz has denied brake-checking Lien and says he was merely trying to exchange driver information….

WHAT BS!
I guess we should not be surprised at what we are hearing from the arrested bikers and their attorneys. The spin would be comical, if it were not so outlandish. The video is very clear evidence of what happened. Hearing the various excuses given by the bikers and their attorneys in a futile attempt to proclaim some level of innocence is ridiculous and so obviously not true. The bikers, four (4) so far, that have been identified and arrested, along with their attorneys, are spreading bold face lies in a desperate attempt to not face criminal charges and the fines and jail sentences that accompany them.

ALL OF THESE BIKERS involved with that premeditated incident or more accurately, the “wilding” attack on the SUV last week have so far and I believe will continue to deny having any responsibility, culpability, or doing any type of wrong doing. Is is such a very transparent attempt to not suffer the criminal and civil legal consequences, yet I guess it should not be a real surprise….

It is a sad commentary on the direction of elements of our society that they are much less likely today to admit responsibility for their actions, confess that they made a mistake, are guilty of poor judgment, be willing to suffer the consequences of their actions and ultimately demonstrate sincere remorse for all of it and learn not to do it again.

Yet, on a broader level, it is very apparent that there is a real decline of a sense of responsibility among many American citizens. Like moral virtue, responsibility is first acquired in family and home. A concerted effort needs to be made to restore the American public's awareness of the principles of their government, of their responsibilities toward their country, their neighbors, their children, their parents, and themselves to be sure that their moral and ethical compass is based on a solid foundation.

I found these two quotes that succinctly sum it all up…..

“If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.”
- Theordore Roosevelt

“No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.”
- Stanislaw Jerzy Le
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“If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month.”
- Theodore Roosevelt

I'm very glad you quoted the "True Roosevelt", Teddy, the fight for American values type of President, not America's version of a dictator aka FDR who rolled out socialization programs to get Americans dependent on their country in the years to come, which over the years has gotten Americans to demand the government provide them with more, and not "What can I do for my country?" type of mindset.

Carry on, that is a discussion for another day, but agree with you on all points above.


That Cruz prick is a stupid sonofabitch if he thinks that any guy who knows how to ride believes that he didn't know how fast he'd slow down if he let off the throttle. What a TOOL, and he is a shame to bikers everywhere.
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I want to be part of the juries when they prosecute these losers.
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I read in the local newspaper in Stafford, VA, that a judge forbid a woman from spanking her 7-year old. The woman took a plea deal, as otherwise she was facing several years in prison for child abuse. The kid misbehaved, the mother spanked her on the butt with a leather belt, the enstranged husband reported the (x)wife...


Now, my question is to the judge - will the woman be able to sue the judge (and the procecutor, for that matter of fact) when her grown up daughter, say, 18 or 20, commits a crime, because she was NOT taught the responsibility values as a kid because the judge prevented the mother from teaching the kid those values?...

where are we heading as a society, when a society shields the kids from responsibility, from punishment (and how do you punish a kid who doesn't care about money, responsibility? spank his a$$!!!) while they are little, and then swings with a full force of the law enFORCEment once they are all grown up... the society sets them up for this failure...

I am not saying this as an excuse for their behavior, that the society is at fault - they should know that every action will have a reaction... I am just perplexed by the sheer ability of the lawyers to spin the facts... good thing, there are video footages from different angles, and the guys can't deny the facts - shit is a shit, no matter how dice it, slice it or garnish it...
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Old 10-08-2013, 01:17 PM
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Hmm.

Yeah, my truck would have become a wrecking ball for any bike near it.
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Hmm.

Yeah, my truck would have become a wrecking ball for any bike near it.
Yup, I would have the bikers calling for help.

Term, have you ever figured out how to buy the video recorders like the ones all over Russia. I am now thinking the only way that SUV driver is not getting the short end of the stick, is because of the video.

I am really interested in getting a pair of the recorders.
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I did get one model, with two cameras, one facing forward, one facing into the cabin, running off an SD card with upto 32Gb, but i did not like it... the front camera did not give enough width in the coverage, the inside camera was the same, the unit was too bulky and the 32G only worked for 4Gb, which was about 40 minutes worth of recording... the thing was about a $100...

I am checking into a full blown, 8-channel mobile DVR with hard drive recording (i have a 160Gb drive laying somewehere), with GPS, and 3G cell phone internet capacity... I have found a nice installation location for it, set up power for it and made up a harness for the cameras... i did not run the cameras yet - kids, family... you know, the same BS excuses that keep me away from a gym!!!! lol...
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