I'll take Covid in Floriduh for $100...or "Is DeSantis toast?"

[bcredliner]

EODguy. Just a recap of how much are views differ. It seems like some of yours have changed. Here's mine.

The vaccines work.
There are 90+% effective.
Boosters are a good thing, not an indication vaccines are not effective.
The percentage of individuals with reactions to the virus is an extremely low percentage. Serious reactions is an extremely small percentage if those that have reactions. The percentage that are life threatening is a small percentage of serious reactions. The percentage of those with ongoing medical issues is an extremely small percentage of those with serious reactions.
Even if vaccinated one should follow the guidelines of avoiding crowds, wearing a mask and washing hands frequently.
I support mandates as long as so many refuse to be vaccinated.
Vaccination is vital to reaching herd immunity.
The larger the number unvaccinated the more likely there will be more mutations.
The larger the number not vaccinated the more likely the pandemic will continue and keep us from getting back to 'normal'.
Crossover cases are an extremely low percentage and usually very mild even without symptoms.
Recommended masks work.
There is some level of immunity for those that have had COVID. It is not the same for everyone. There are no longterm studies that show how long the initial level of immunity is retained.
Vaccinations are still recommended for those that have had COVID.

All points have been backed up with linked studies by CDC, WHO or NIH which review studies and verify information from around the world to determine the necessary appropriate guidelines toward eradication of COVID.

What are your views?

[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

EODguy. Just a recap of how much are views differ. It seems like some of yours have changed. Here's mine.

The vaccines work.
There are 90+% effective.
Boosters are a good thing, not an indication vaccines are not effective.
The percentage of individuals with reactions to the virus is an extremely low percentage. Serious reactions is an extremely small percentage if those that have reactions. The percentage that are life threatening is a small percentage of serious reactions. The percentage of those with ongoing medical issues is an extremely small percentage of those with serious reactions.
Even if vaccinated one should follow the guidelines of avoiding crowds, wearing a mask and washing hands frequently.
I support mandates as long as so many refuse to be vaccinated.
Vaccination is vital to reaching herd immunity.
The larger the number unvaccinated the more likely there will be more mutations.
The larger the number not vaccinated the more likely the pandemic will continue and keep us from getting back to 'normal'.
Crossover cases are an extremely low percentage and usually very mild even without symptoms.
Recommended masks work.
There is some level of immunity for those that have had COVID. It is not the same for everyone. There are no longterm studies that show how long the initial level of immunity is retained.
Vaccinations are still recommended for those that have had COVID.

All points have been backed up with linked studies by CDC, WHO or NIH which review studies and verify information from around the world to determine the necessary appropriate guidelines toward eradication of COVID.

What are your views?

I second BC's take on vaccine and the mandates.

You either take it as a precaution or you don't take it.

I think most people use logic when they decide whether to take it or not.

Do you have pre-existing conditions that could cause your body to react negatively?

In other words does the side effect of the vaccine outweight the benefit for you.

Once you make that determination with the help of your doctor, you are all set.

Follow the CDC guidelines and best of luck to you and your family.

[zonefive]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

EODguy. Just a recap of how much are views differ. It seems like some of yours have changed. Here's mine.

The vaccines work.
There are 90+% effective.
Boosters are a good thing, not an indication vaccines are not effective.
The percentage of individuals with reactions to the virus is an extremely low percentage. Serious reactions is an extremely small percentage if those that have reactions. The percentage that are life threatening is a small percentage of serious reactions. The percentage of those with ongoing medical issues is an extremely small percentage of those with serious reactions.
Even if vaccinated one should follow the guidelines of avoiding crowds, wearing a mask and washing hands frequently.
I support mandates as long as so many refuse to be vaccinated.
Vaccination is vital to reaching herd immunity.
The larger the number unvaccinated the more likely there will be more mutations.
The larger the number not vaccinated the more likely the pandemic will continue and keep us from getting back to 'normal'.
Crossover cases are an extremely low percentage and usually very mild even without symptoms.
Recommended masks work.
There is some level of immunity for those that have had COVID. It is not the same for everyone. There are no longterm studies that show how long the initial level of immunity is retained.
Vaccinations are still recommended for those that have had COVID.

All points have been backed up with linked studies by CDC, WHO or NIH which review studies and verify information from around the world to determine the necessary appropriate guidelines toward eradication of COVID.

What are your views?

There are no legitimate studies to back up anything that you have stated above. Post the best one and I will show you how and why it does not justify your conclusions.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by zonefive

There are no legitimate studies to back up anything that you have stated above. Post the best one and I will show you how and why it does not justify your conclusions.

I suggest you go back and start at the beginning of this thread. I have posted expert sources for the statements. The sources are legitimate and accurate. If you want to post information to the contrary have at it. Pick whatever point you feel most strongly about. As mentioned, for your benefit, you should read the whole thread before you post anything.

[zonefive]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

I suggest you go back and start at the beginning of this thread. I have posted expert sources for the statements. The sources are legitimate and accurate. If you want to post information to the contrary have at it. Pick whatever point you feel most strongly about. As mentioned, for your benefit, you should read the whole thread before you post anything.

No time. If you are just going to resort to authority then there is no changing your mind and no hope for you.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by zonefive

No time. If you are just going to resort to authority then there is no changing your mind and no hope for you.

What do you mean by resort to authority?

[zonefive]

Originally Posted by bcredliner

What do you mean by resort to authority?

The authorities -- Fauci, Birks, Walensky, Big Pharma. You trust them and their studies to be completely truthful.

You continue to believe the authorities despite their claims being blatantly false/absurd on their face and even when they admit to lying straight up.

You are one of the people affected by the mass psychosis in the western world. You are essentially hypnotized and cannot conceive of the idea that what you believe is false no matter what the evidence is that is staring you right in the face.

[bcredliner]

Originally Posted by zonefive

The authorities -- Fauci, Birks, Walensky, Big Pharma. You trust them and their studies to be completely truthful.

You continue to believe the authorities despite their claims being blatantly false/absurd on their face and even when they admit to lying straight up.

You are one of the people affected by the mass psychosis in the western world. You are essentially hypnotized and cannot conceive of the idea that what you believe is false no matter what the evidence is that is staring you right in the face.

My references to experts have been the CDC, WHO, NIAID, NCID, Mayo Clinic, Harvard studies etc. I am not posting opinions but proven facts. I am willing to consider any expert information you post to the contrary. What do you believe are the facts about COVID? What evidence is staring me in the face that I don't acknowledge or consider? What are your sources for what you believe? Are you concerned about the Omicron variant?

Insults are not constructive. They contribute nothing to a discussion. They only reflect poorly on ones character and are often an indication that person has no facts to support their position so they lash out.