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Old 10-06-2008, 05:44 PM
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The biggest issues is that most of the people who answer the polls are (and will be on 11.4 17. If I see another kid from my high school put "obama" in his political views on facebook, I think I'll vomit.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:22 PM
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The biggest issues is that most of the people who answer the polls are (and will be on 11.4 17. If I see another kid from my high school put "obama" in his political views on facebook, I think I'll vomit.
Bingo. Most of these Obama as President wannabees are either (1) not registered to vote or (2) can't vote.
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Wow, you put faith in polls

You must be from Canada.
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Go back to the primaries and look at the "polls" then tell me how much faith you put in them.
Polls done by professionals such as Gallup or Zogby are mathamatical in nature and have a certain percentage error which are always disclosed with the poll results, usually 2-3%.

When election results fall way outside of the polling results, that is a sign of election fraud.

Do you remember 2-3 years ago the president of Ukraine was accused of stealing the election and election monitors provided evidence that he had stolen the election? That evidence was polling data which did not match the results. And as a result of that polling data, the election results were cancelled.

It's just too bad that nobody monitors our elections here.

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Old 10-06-2008, 07:58 PM
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Polls done by professionals such as Gallup or Zogby are mathamatical in nature and have a certain percentage error which are always disclosed with the poll results, usually 2-3%.

When election results fall way outside of the polling results, that is a sign of election fraud.

Do you remember 2-3 years ago the president of Ukraine was accused of stealing the election and election monitors provided evidence that he had stolen the election? That evidence was polling data which did not match the results. And as a result of that polling data, the election results were cancelled.

It's just too bad that nobody monitors our elections here.

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Um, ah, not quite that accurate. Again, go back to the primaries where people were actually making fun of how inaccurate polls were. If the polls were right 10 months ago, Hillary would be running against Rudi right now
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:04 PM
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Um, ah, not quite that accurate. Again, go back to the primaries where people were actually making fun of how inaccurate polls were. If the polls were right 10 months ago, Hillary would be running against Rudi right now
Polls taken a month before the vote are not that accurate because people can change their minds between now and then. But polls taken a day or two before the vote are very accurate, usually not more than 1-2%, because not that many people change their minds in the last day or two.

And lastly, exit polls have less than 0.1% error since you are not asking people who they are going to vote for, but who they already voted for. Exit polling data is what was used to prove the Ukraine election was fraudulent. If that same logic had been applied to our election in 2004, you would be complaining about President Kerry the last couple of years.
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Polls taken a month before the vote are not that accurate because people can change their minds between now and then. But polls taken a day or two before the vote are very accurate, usually not more than 1-2%, because not that many people change their minds in the last day or two.

And lastly, exit polls have less than 0.1% error since you are not asking people who they are going to vote for, but who they already voted for. Exit polling data is what was used to prove the Ukraine election was fraudulent. If that same logic had been applied to our election in 2004, you would be complaining about President Kerry the last couple of years.

Primary polls were EXIT POLLS, can't get more real time then that. Lets not go back 4 years
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Primary polls were EXIT POLLS, can't get more real time then that. Lets not go back 4 years
Like I said, FRAUD. Exit polls are reliable. If the results don't match, then a mistake was made somewhere. It could be that the mistake was with the polling. But more likely the mistake was with the counting of the votes. And if they were counted by electronic voting machines, then the most likely explanation is Fraud.
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So you think Hillary and Rudi should be the candidate then and that everything now must be rigged
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So you think Hillary and Rudi should be the candidate then and that everything now must be rigged
There were no exit polls showing a victory for Rudi. The polls showing him ahead were national polls that happened months before there was a single primary.

And which states are you referring to that had exit polling showing a Clinton win but the results were that Obama won? Once it looked like neither Edwards or Kucinich would win, I stopped watching, so I don't remember this.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:55 PM
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There were no exit polls showing a victory for Rudi. The polls showing him ahead were national polls that happened months before there was a single primary.

And which states are you referring to that had exit polling showing a Clinton win but the results were that Obama won? Once it looked like neither Edwards or Kucinich would win, I stopped watching, so I don't remember this.
You'd have to go back and look them up, I'm not taking that time

And where was McCain, oh yeah..polls said he was out of it.
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