Market in tank AGAIN - Can the US AFFORD OBAMA???

[CGSTL]

Oh, but you're neglecting the small detail that the fox will now be guarding the hen house. With three of the most liberal/socialist/marxist (take your pick) leaders making AND signing the laws they will financially enslave the few to work for the benefit of the masses. This the worst possible of storms. At least a Republican in the white house can rein in out-of-control spending. Something W did not do very well .

And I actually have two purposes for voting:
1. Voting against the socialist Obama.
2. Voting for McCain in hopes that conservative principles will prevail.

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

My guess is your voting McCain.
If so than i submit that he like
Mr. Obama will only be able to
act within the confines of the
limitations placed upon them
by others. It's a gamble you
must take with your choice based
on the variables of the process.

If the variables of the process
are to remain the same as they
always have been then it's fair
to expect more of the same no
matter who gets elected.

Hence, getting excited by either
candidate or upset by anothers
proposed thinking or retoric is
nothing more than a remedy
for heartburn. Seriously who need
the irritation.........

[Quicksilver]

Your joking right?.........

liberal/socialist/marxist leaders? If that's what you believe then i feel bad for you. No one but no one should feel as persecuted as you do right now.

I don't suppose a re-read of chicken little would help but i hardly believe the liberal/socialist/marxist leaders will sign any laws that will financially enslave the few to work for the benefit of the masses.

If you believe in this so called "Perfect storm" then i fail to see how one Republican in the white house can rein in out-of-control spending. No one but no one can stop a perfect storm. You and i both know that.....

Originally Posted by CGSTL

Oh, but you're neglecting the small detail that the fox will now be guarding the hen house. With three of the most liberal/socialist/marxist (take your pick) leaders making AND signing the laws they will financially enslave the few to work for the benefit of the masses. This the worst possible of storms. At least a Republican in the white house can rein in out-of-control spending. Something W did not do very well .

And I actually have two purposes for voting:
1. Voting against the socialist Obama.
2. Voting for McCain in hopes that conservative principles will prevail.

[NIGHTMAREuki]

IMO its been a long time since people had to say no the the BS we were fed starting from early 1900's. the 2 candidates that we are given are practically the same, neither know whats wrong with the economy and how to fix it, neither want to put "country first"..... neither will stop spending money overseas and use it here.
hopefully it will not take full collapse of this country, once the greatest, to realize that we need to be stop managing the whole world and take care of our own asses at least for now, b/c near future looks grim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cF62QpvDok

[Wagner]

If you haven't owned a small business you know nothing of the overall costs. I had a meeting with SB owners just yesterday, and all of this was discussed. Payroll tax, federal tax, healthcare and a HUGE amount of other misc taxes kill SB. Especially a Type-S corp in which all gross is considered income unless it is spent. INCOME. So add what revenue you make for a company and employees on top of your salary.

[Quicksilver]

The problem with any plan spoken of is that it's nothing more than a plan.
Until it's implemented it's all talk and getting excited about it really is a waste of time.

But I'm not surprised. people really do put a lot of credence in what politicians promise. Election after election people keep buying it. Election after election very little of it is ever delivered. Time after time people keep believing.

Amazing........

[vinuneuro]

I've brought this up in two separate threads now, and the McCain supporters wouldn't even touch it. Obama is promising a lot, some of which makes me uncomfortable. But how much of candidates' specific promises come through during their terms?

McCain says he'll leave this country in Iraq. That's an easy and certain one for him to do since it's already well underway, and he has the power to dictate that. At $120+ billion dollars a year that's been ticking- and without an end in sight if McCain is big dawg- none of you think that's expensive?

[realchef]

Originally Posted by vinuneuro

I've brought this up in two separate threads now, and the McCain supporters wouldn't even touch it. Obama is promising a lot, some of which makes me uncomfortable. But how much of candidates' specific promises come through during their terms?

McCain says he'll leave this country in Iraq. That's an easy and certain one for him to do since it's already well underway, and he has the power to dictate that. At $120+ billion dollars a year that's been ticking- and without an end in sight if McCain is big dawg- none of you think that's expensive?

Is anyone else noticing the beautiful irony of our friends, porcorn smiley 1 and 2?

Neither one holds a brighter forecast economically. No, not 1 and 2, Mc and O.

This may be a simplistic view of a complex situation but....If you take out the Devil (Palin) what are the major issues left? Iraq is one. This massive cost has been a drain on our once Capitalist economy. Imagine the long term effect on our current Socialist economy.

Obama seems intent on leaving Iraq and McCain is intent on riding it out until Jesus shows up to take Sarah home.

I am ready (almost) to take the Obama gamble for these two reasons alone, Palin and War Dollars. (OMG! did I just type that?? again?)

[JCL]

Originally Posted by vinuneuro

I've brought this up in two separate threads now, and the McCain supporters wouldn't even touch it. Obama is promising a lot, some of which makes me uncomfortable. But how much of candidates' specific promises come through during their terms?

McCain says he'll leave this country in Iraq. That's an easy and certain one for him to do since it's already well underway, and he has the power to dictate that. At $120+ billion dollars a year that's been ticking- and without an end in sight if McCain is big dawg- none of you think that's expensive?

Watch it, you'll get labelled a Marxist

Looks like the McCain camp doesn't want to answer your question any more so now than the last two times you asked it. Fair question though.

[E61Silver]

Originally Posted by vinuneuro

I've brought this up in two separate threads now, and the McCain supporters wouldn't even touch it. Obama is promising a lot, some of which makes me uncomfortable. But how much of candidates' specific promises come through during their terms?

McCain says he'll leave this country in Iraq. That's an easy and certain one for him to do since it's already well underway, and he has the power to dictate that. At $120+ billion dollars a year that's been ticking- and without an end in sight if McCain is big dawg- none of you think that's expensive?

[AzX5]

Originally Posted by vinuneuro

I've brought this up in two separate threads now, and the McCain supporters wouldn't even touch it...

McCain says he'll leave this country in Iraq. That's an easy and certain one for him to do since it's already well underway, and he has the power to dictate that. At $120+ billion dollars a year that's been ticking- and without an end in sight if McCain is big dawg- none of you think that's expensive?

I've answered this before, but let me type this more slowly so you can follow along. If we leave Iraq before they can defend themselves, would not that lead to a more volatile situation that could be taken over by the likes of Al Quaida the way Afghanistan was prior to 9/11? Would we not then have to return to Iraq under worse conditions than exist presently at even higher cost to defend our new fledgling democratic allies?

McCain has never said we are staying in Iraq indefinitely or even a "100 years" as has been misquoted by liberals. He repeatedly says that we will be there until Iraq can defend themselves and not a day longer. It could be 6 months or it could be 6 years. Nobody knows, but McCain will make sure we don't pull out until the job is completed. Obama has made similar statements recently that the far left doesn't want to hear, of course.

Now the liberals will argue that Iraq has been able to defend themselves for a long time now and they are just milking our continued support so they don't need to step up on their own. Well, I'll believe the Generals in the field as to when Iraq is ready, not the liberals in Congress or the media that think they know better than the military.