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Old 10-21-2008, 03:42 PM
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How many endorsements does it take to be Pres of the US?

I think Nike should sponsor Bob Barr, would that count

BTW, did anyone catch the tie/tails dinner with Obama and McCain joking around?

McCain stands up and says "..I know there are many Democrats here, but I can't help but feel that some of you are pulling for me. Hillary, glad to see you made it"

Obama "as many of you know my name is Barack Obama, my middle name..well some of your are confused, it is actually Steve. Barack Steve Obama"

McCain "..I'd like to thank groups like ACORN for helping disenfranchised voters get recognized, like 2 year olds, dead people and cartoon characters"

Obama "..of course I wasn't alive to know your grandfather, but John tells me he was a great man. In fact he said they had some great times hanging out together"
It was great! McCain is a funny guy... unfortunately at inappropriate times, though.
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:50 PM
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What was said? I haven't heard that on any program I listen to.
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What was said? I haven't heard that on any program I listen to.
Mark Levin and G. Gordon Liddy. Not the host, per se, but their listeners and call ins have been pretty hateful. In addition, the talk is that Powell, by his choosing to endorse Obama has betrayed the Republican Party after all they have done for him. Also they have been referring to him as Benedict Powell and a "Race Patriot" in Blackface:

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Old 10-21-2008, 04:59 PM
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Mark Levin and G. Gordon Liddy. Not the host, per se, but their listeners and call ins have been pretty hateful. In addition, the talk is that Powell, by his choosing to endorse Obama has betrayed the Republican Party after all they have done for him. Also they have been referring to him as Benedict Powell and a "Race Patriot" in Blackface:

So a listener called in and said that, well that blows. Kind of like the Obama fans interviewed by Howard Stern who loved his pick of Palin for VP
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Mark Levin and G. Gordon Liddy. Not the host, per se, but their listeners and call ins have been pretty hateful. In addition, the talk is that Powell, by his choosing to endorse Obama has betrayed the Republican Party after all they have done for him. Also they have been referring to him as Benedict Powell and a "Race Patriot" in Blackface:

Actually the Republican party treated Collin Powell poorly and in fact abandoned him. Regardless of his MASSIVE shift to the Ultra Left I still respect him for his service and think the photo above is tasteless.
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Actually the Republican party treated Collin Powell poorly and in fact abandoned him. Regardless of his MASSIVE shift to the Ultra Left I still respect him for his service and think the photo above is tasteless.
I agree. People who aren't in the know think he betrayed the party.

But isn't being abandoned by your party a good enough reason to support a candidate from the opposing party? I would think that Powell would have endorsed Hillary before McCain with facts like those. Don't you agree?
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I agree. People who aren't in the know think he betrayed the party.

But isn't being abandoned by your party a good enough reason to support a candidate from the opposing party? I would think that Powell would have endorsed Hillary before McCain with facts like those. Don't you agree?
Honestly I could see any Republican supporting a moderate Democrat. I'm not sure Hillary fits into that category but plenty of Democrats are middle of the road. Obama is just too Liberal and unknown to take that chance especially with Nanci Pelosi and Harry Reid holding the gavels. So no...Anyone with a shred of Conservative values would need to vote McCain and hold their nose, independent or not vote at all.

I could easliy support a Democrat for President and have in the past.
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Regardless of his MASSIVE shift to the Ultra Left I still respect him for his service..
Didn't we discuss above how Powell has been a centralist?

Here is the problem of referring to people like Obama as Ultra Left; IMO it says more about the speaker than Obama. Essentially, it describes your position. Those on the far right think Obama is a communist. Those on the far left think Republicans are fascists. Neither extreme view helps.

Those on the real left would never recognize Obama's policies.

I am reminded of the phrase "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
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Didn't we discuss above how Powell has been a centralist?

Here is the problem of referring to people like Obama as Ultra Left; IMO it says more about the speaker than Obama. Essentially, it describes your position. Those on the far right think Obama is a communist. Those on the far left think Republicans are fascists. Neither extreme view helps.

Those on the real left would never recognize Obama's policies.

I am reminded of the phrase "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail"
Obama is an Ultra Left Democrat and you can't really argue that point based on his life experience, work experience, world view and policy while in his Senate Seat.

Like I've said...I voted for Bill Clinton twice and worked on his campaign in both elections. I'm not religious, I could care less if guys married guys or girls married girls. I'm not against abortion though I do want it to be regulated and avoided if possible.

So go ahead and make me out to be some Far Right Extremest. You'd be guilty of that which you accuse me.
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I tell you Obama doesn't scare me nearly as much as dems in the whitehouse and congress do. Obama with a Republican run Congress, fine. McCain is actually pretty dangerous with a Dem Congress as well. I'm sure Piglosi could bend him over the tax barrel once or twice.

Psss...Bob Barr...pss...Bob Barr Sorry I only have a few weeks left
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