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[mwares212]

Originally Posted by AzX5

What do you think they would say?

Of course his associations would come up during the background investigation and he would not be qualified. He couldn't get a clearance to work at a defense contractor with his background.

A close relative of mine is an engineer at defense contractor Northrup Grumman and had to get a federal security clearance because of his work on certain military projects. I asked him about the screening process and he said that with Obama's questionable associations, he would probably not get a clearance. Great, lets now make he commander in chief

Some of these facts in the video I think are biased, but many things are not and that scares me!

[AzX5]

Originally Posted by mwares212

A close relative of mine is an engineer at defense contractor Northrup Grumman and had to get a federal security clearance because of his work on certain military projects.

I used to work at Northrop Grumman, and your friend is correct.

[blondboinsd]

I'm sorry but I'm not buying any of this. I'd say it's a shift from the far right wing radicals that enjoyed the last 8 years. Sorry

These people seem to be the same people behind the Yes on 8 Campaign spreading fear and stretching the truth...

[FSETH]

Originally Posted by blondboinsd

I'm sorry but I'm not buying any of this. I'd say it's a shift from the far right wing radicals that enjoyed the last 8 years. Sorry

These people seem to be the same people behind the Yes on 8 Campaign spreading fear and stretching the truth...

You really don't believe any of this, or you don't want to believe it?

[Dannyell]

so what if he can't get a job at CIA or FBI...the requirements for president have nothing to do with that...and he has every right to run...the information is out there about both candidates...it is up to us voters

[x5GuyInLA]

Originally Posted by Dannyell

so what if he can't get a job at CIA or FBI...the requirements for president have nothing to do with that...and he has every right to run...the information is out there about both candidates...it is up to us voters

Too bad the media skews the info in his favor, or just doesn't report it at all. There's a video of Obama speaking at a party for Khalidi, a well known critic of Israel and purported spokesperson for the PLO, that the media will not release because they're "protecting the identity of their source." Don't you think that if there was a video of McCain or Palin at a kkk rally, it would have been out from day 1?

Being president puts him at the top of our military chain of command. If he can't qualify to get a low level position, how is he qualified to be at the top of our command chain? One of the powers the law allows the president is that he 60 days from the time he declares war to act upon it w/o consent from Congress. can you imagine what could be done in 60 days?

Two things I've noticed...why do Obama supporters believe that he has no faults? Funny how his cocaine use is barely mentioned while it seemed like a big deal when GWB first ran. There a wiki entry for GWB but nothing for Obama. From the outset of his candidacy, he lied and flip flopped about taking public financing...what other statements has he made that he will back out of once he's president? Fanatical blind faith is dangerous...just look what happened at Waco. And has anyone noticed how the posters on Obama's website have an eery similarity to the propaganda posters of the former USSR?

If he does win and it's looking like he will, I pray to God I'm wrong about him. I would much rather admit I'm wrong than say I told you so.

[Dannyell]

Originally Posted by x5GuyInLA

Too bad the media skews the info in his favor, or just doesn't report it at all. There's a video of Obama speaking at a party for Khalidi, a well known critic of Israel and purported spokesperson for the PLO, that the media will not release because they're "protecting the identity of their source." Don't you think that if there was a video of McCain or Palin at a kkk rally, it would have been out from day 1?

Being president puts him at the top of our military chain of command. If he can't qualify to get a low level position, how is he qualified to be at the top of our command chain? One of the powers the law allows the president is that he 60 days from the time he declares war to act upon it w/o consent from Congress. can you imagine what could be done in 60 days?

Two things I've noticed...why do Obama supporters believe that he has no faults? Funny how his cocaine use is barely mentioned while it seemed like a big deal when GWB first ran. There a wiki entry for GWB but nothing for Obama. From the outset of his candidacy, he lied and flip flopped about taking public financing...what other statements has he made that he will back out of once he's president? Fanatical blind faith is dangerous...just look what happened at Waco. And has anyone noticed how the posters on Obama's website have an eery similarity to the propaganda posters of the former USSR?

If he does win and it's looking like he will, I pray to God I'm wrong about him. I would much rather admit I'm wrong than say I told you so.

depending which news station you are watching...but mostly yes you are right..the media is too linient...about the tapes? I think the first time I have heard about that is about 6 months ago...but the story has been somewhat blow over....

Anyways for anyone who is serious about voting I think the media should be the last thing to help make their decision, unfortunately that is not the case.....

In my opinion either candidate is a better than GWB

[x5GuyInLA]

Originally Posted by Dannyell

depending which news station you are watching...but mostly yes you are right..the media is too linient...about the tapes? I think the first time I have heard about that is about 6 months ago...but the story has been somewhat blow over....

Anyways for anyone who is serious about voting I think the media should be the last thing to help make their decision, unfortunately that is not the case.....

In my opinion either candidate is a better than GWB

you're right, you shouldn't let the media influence you, but there's a reason why Obama has spent so much on advertising and taking out what amounts to a 30 minute infomercial during primetime - because it does influence the masses and it works.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by FSETH

You really don't believe any of this, or you don't want to believe it?

I realize that you were asking someone else, but did you read the link I provided earlier? Maybe it wasn't independent enough for you. Here is the Snopes link debunking this claim.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/security.asp

So, let's recount. Three lawyers, one of them ex-military, all with a background in security checks. A non-partisan site. Covered on another non-partisan site. That articulates one opinion on the issue there.

Or, we could go with three anonymous guys who know some people in the military, used to work at an aviation company, and have a relative who knows something. Yeah, that'll work.

Come on guys, you've got to do better than that. I would love to believe you. I have no personal stake in this matter. Just give me something, anything, to go on here. I am pretty sure that criminal activity will cause you to not pass a security check. So, you could start out with a list of convictions. Failing that, let's hear something equally compelling. If it is so clear-cut an issue, it can't be difficult.

PS: X5Guy: Yes, I believe Obama has faults. We could start with his approach to free trade, his intelligence, etc, and go from there. But the question was why he couldn't get a security clearance. And accusing all Obama supporters out there of being blind fanatical sheep is insulting. Yes, I am sure there are some sheep, on both sides.

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by JCL

Here is the Snopes link debunking this claim.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/security.asp

I love it. People caught issuing fabrications again..........