Obama, Commander In Chief

[4.6is Ryder]

Originally Posted by LeMansX5

We need a constitutional amendment for minimum requirements to be US President to include the following:

• Should have served in army.........Marine Corps
• Should not talk about "Joe the plumber" or "Joe Schmoe" making $250k as poor.
• Should know how many houses he owns on top of his head.
• Should not be older than 70. (don't want a senile commander-in-chief)
• Should be at least 50 years old.
• Should not have any connection to Hillary Clinton, Rev Wright, etc.
• Should have lived on Main street and other side streets and back alleys to know how life on American streets is.
• Should not be brought-up with silver spoon.
• Should have born and lived in US only. (Sorry no living abroad in Indonesia or other countries or born on US military ship allowed.)
• Should have absolutely clean record and saint life e.g. no drugs or wine or women.
• Should be re-elected to third term if he dodges shoes thrown at him.
• Insert more requirements at your free will here.

Not that I agree with your list, but if you think the top dog should have served, then he/she should be "The Few, The Proud, a Marine" .....Phil

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by Wagner

start with YOUR company!

My company is not a health care company. It is a music company. So I am not able to provide anyone with heath care.

I pay my employees as much as I can afford to. What they choose to spend their salary on is their choice. Forcing them to spend a portion of it on health insurance like many employers do is certainly not fair. It's no more fair than if I forced them to spend a portion of their salary on life insurance, auto insurance, or any other kind of insurance. If any of them want to purchase health insurance, they can certainly do so.

[Meiac09]

I think any branch of the armed forces will do, but I agree that there needs to be some military experience.
I disagree with the 50 year age limit. I think the younger the better, at least in the interest of not having "buddies" yet
Should be a maximum net worth
Cannot have "present" votes. Needs to have demonstrated a backbone at some point in their careers.

[Eric5273]

I disagree with the military requirement. In fact, I would not vote for someone who has spent time in the military for any position in the civilian government. Members of the joint chiefs, and perhaps the secretary of defense should have military experience. Not those in the civilian government, and certainly not someone who we entrust with keeping our country safe and at peace.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

My company is not a health care company. It is a music company. So I am not able to provide anyone with heath care.

I pay my employees as much as I can afford to. What they choose to spend their salary on is their choice. Forcing them to spend a portion of it on health insurance like many employers do is certainly not fair. It's no more fair than if I forced them to spend a portion of their salary on life insurance, auto insurance, or any other kind of insurance. If any of them want to purchase health insurance, they can certainly do so.

EPIC FAIL.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Eric5273

I disagree with the military requirement. In fact, I would not vote for someone who has spent time in the military for any position in the civilian government. Members of the joint chiefs, and perhaps the secretary of defense should have military experience. Not those in the civilian government, and certainly not someone who we entrust with keeping our country safe and at peace.

Better tell these guys to pack their crap then

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George Washington - Commander in Chief of Continental Army during the American Revolution.
James Monroe - served in American Revolution
Andrew Jackson - American Revolution, War of 1812, First Seminole War
William Henry Harrison - Indian wars in the NW territory, War of 1812
John Tyler - War of 1812
Zachary Taylor - War of 1812, Black Hawk, Second Seminole, and Mexican wars
Franklin Pierce - Mexican War
James Buchanan - War of 1812
Abraham Lincoln - Black Hawk War
Andrew Johnson - Civil War
Ulysses Grant - Mexican War, Civil War
Rutherford Hayes - Civil War
James Garfield - Civil War
Chester Arthur - Civil War
Benjamin Harrison - Civil War
William McKinley - Civil War
Theodore Roosevelt - Spanish-American War
Harry Truman - WWI
Dwight Eisenhower - WWII General
John Kennedy - WWII
Lyndon Johnson - WWII
Richard Nixon - WWII
Gerald Ford - WWII
George Bush - WWII

Prezs with NO experience

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John Adams
Thomas Jefferson
John Quincy Adams
Martin Van Buren
Grover Cleveland
William Taft
Woodrow Wilson
Warren Harding
Calvin Coolidge
Herbert Hoover
Franklin Roosevelt
Bill Clinton

[blondboinsd]

Oh Whatever, Am I shocked that people who's jobs depended on GW's unlimited budget for expense and now someone who understands spreading the budget around is in office? HA NO! The Don't Ask Don't Tell Thing is funny as anyone who's IQ is above Retard shouldn't have an issue with DADT being repealed. Geeze, this almost MAKES me ashamed of our Armed Forces.

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by Wagner

Better tell these guys to pack their crap then

Based on your two lists, I'd say it makes no difference. Some of your best presidents are on each list, and some of the worst are on each list. But today we live in a time where there is huge influence and pressure on government from the Military Industrial Complex and from the Energy sector -- both of which profit greatly from war. We need a president who is 100% independent and seperated from both of them, and who will not lead a foreign policy based on what is best for their profits. Unfortunately, it's been decades since we had such a president, but one can hope.

[Quicksilver]

Hey Eric; You said

"My company is not a health care company.
It is a music company. So I am not able to
provide anyone with heath care."

So are you saying that your company
has to be a healthcare company in order
to provide anyone with health care?

Maybe you didn't mean that the way it sounded, right?
I'm sure you know of lots of companies that are not
health care companies that provide health care for
their employees.

Do you also honestly believe that people who are required to
spend a portion of their salary on health insurance feel
like they are being forced into it and subsequently
they feel it's not fair?

Being one of those people who continues to
pay for a portion of my healthcare let me testify that if
my previous employer had not provided health care
(which I paid a small portion for) we would
be out on the street trying to cover for medical care.

I also know of many others who concentrate their job
searches around who's offering health insurance.

Seems to me that your decision as to what is fair for everyone
in your company by not setting up a health plan and then giving your employees a choice is not fair.

I also believe there is a substantial difference between health insurance,
Life insurance, auto insurance, or any other kind of insurance.
And i believe you know there is a difference as well.

#1 Anyone can decide not to have auto insurance. (Just don't own a car)

#2 Go ahead and decide not to have life insurance (Your family will survive)

#3 Now go ahead and have a family, not have health insurance and
one of them get a catastrophic illness and it wipes out the families
Finances. (See the difference?)

Perhaps you should consider a willingness on your part
to adjust your comments to reflect a more balanced and logical conclusion regarding the matter.

Originally Posted by Eric5273

My company is not a health care company. It is a music company. So I am not able to provide anyone with heath care.

I pay my employees as much as I can afford to. What they choose to spend their salary on is their choice. Forcing them to spend a portion of it on health insurance like many employers do is certainly not fair. It's no more fair than if I forced them to spend a portion of their salary on life insurance, auto insurance, or any other kind of insurance. If any of them want to purchase health insurance, they can certainly do so.

[Eric5273]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Hey Eric; You said

"My company is not a health care company.
It is a music company. So I am not able to
provide anyone with heath care."

So are you saying that your company
has to be a healthcare company in order
to provide anyone with health care?

Correct. I cannot provide them with health care. The best I can do is buy them health insurance. There is a difference.

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

I also know of many others who concentrate their job
searches around who's offering health insurance.

Seems to me that your decision as to what is fair for everyone
in your company by not setting up a health plan and then giving your employees a choice is not fair.

I have a plan set up, and all employees have the option of joining it if they choose to. Currently, none of them choose to. Currently I'm the only one who gets their health insurance from the company HMO. But all of them have that option. All they have to do is let me know and I will sign them up and deduct the cost from their paycheck.