No solar panels in Cali Desert

[Wagner]

According to Sen. Feinstein it would be "clutter". Have we lost our collective minds? Cali never ceases to amaze me.

Feinstein: Don't Spoil Our Desert With Solar Panels - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

WASHINGTON (AP) -- California's Mojave Desert may seem ideally suited for solar energy production, but concern over what several proposed projects might do to the aesthetics of the region and its tortoise population is setting up a potential clash between conservationists and companies seeking to develop renewable energy.

Nineteen companies have submitted applications to build solar or wind facilities on a parcel of 500,000 desert acres, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Friday such development would violate the spirit of what conservationists had intended when they donated much of the land to the public.

[JVegas]

Originally Posted by Wagner

According to Sen. Feinstein it would be "clutter". Have we lost our collective minds? Cali never ceases to amaze me.

Feinstein: Don't Spoil Our Desert With Solar Panels - Presidential Politics | Political News - FOXNews.com

Yeah, a lot of real winners we have out west...Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer, The Governator -- all a bunch of whacked out morons running this state. Not to mention the douche bag mayor we have in Los Angeles...Its atrocious.

[MrLabGuy]

Originally Posted by JVegas

Yeah, a lot of real winners we have out west...Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer, The Governator -- all a bunch of whacked out morons running this state. Not to mention the douche bag mayor we have in Los Angeles...Its atrocious.

Your mayor has nothing on Gavin Newsom the mayor of San Francisco.



San Francisco should be its own Country.

[blondboinsd]

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

Your mayor has nothing on Gavin Newsom the mayor of San Francisco.



San Francisco should be its own Country.

Knock Gavin if you want and TRUST me he has done plenty of annoying things BUT one can't bash without noting all of the great things (at least to me) he has done. Obviously the people of SF must like something about him!

[E61Silver]

People see the need but don't want it to impact them.

Wind power is a natural for Long Island but it was also killed.

[hpjunkie]

i know im gonna get it for this.

but i agree with the now solar panels in the mojave. if you have been there and can appreciate it's beuty, you'll know what im talking about.

besides we already have solar panels there.
Solar Central Power Towers



im all for energy alternatives 100% yet I know there is somewhere more practical to put up solar panels. I hear the governators home is big, put em there...

All last these last minute fixes are crappy and rushed. If the US gov would have started this program years ago we wouldn't be in a fix to find real estate, becaue a few years back i remember a lot of big lot for this sort of technology. What's there now? Walmart, Applebees, Starbuck, Best Buy.

[motordavid]

Originally Posted by hpjunkie

i know im gonna get it for this.

but i agree with the now solar panels in the mojave. if you have been there and can appreciate it's beuty, you'll know what im talking about.

besides we already have solar panels there.
Solar Central Power Towers



im all for energy alternatives 100% yet I know there is somewhere more practical to put up solar panels. I hear the governators home is big, put em there...

All last these last minute fixes are crappy and rushed. If the US gov would have started this program years ago we wouldn't be in a fix to find real estate, becaue a few years back i remember a lot of big lot for this sort of technology. What's there now? Walmart, Applebees, Starbuck, Best Buy.

I have been there too: riding my motorcycle three times from east to west across the Mojave. No biggie, but my point is I'm not
working off my couch suggesting we should do them "there" and NIMBY...they could/should be installed anywhere.

As for "practical", what might be more practical? We aren't talking about covering the Mojave in solar panels. My point on the
blathering idiots, of which Feinstein is right near the top, (but she doesn't have the patent, as nearly all the 'genius' House & Senate are also of her ilk, imo),
flapping her gums about a well done solar initiative "cluttering up" any freakin area.

Yes, the US should have started non-petroleum initiatives earlier, but nothing like Today, to start...but, alas there is no capable operation
that could initiate/oversee and make it happen as critically as we need it. A "gov't" monster doing this is not the answer, either, imo.

The last solar really done in the Mojave was in the late '80s. That site pitches the next version coming on in late 2010/11, and a drop in
the bucket, energy producing wise, imo.

Back at the Power Hungry Ranch, we are tilting at windmills, (no pun), and T.Boone Pickens was on the mark; but, with oil at $50 and
gas at 2 bucks, Congress's short memory and the US Public's pollyanna 'tude and equally short memory and blase' outlook suggest we
are all dumb and happy and some miracle will occur.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by motordavid

I have been there too: riding my motorcycle three times from east to west across the Mojave. No biggie, but my point is I'm not
working off my couch suggesting we should do them "there" and NIMBY...they could/should be installed anywhere.

As for "practical", what might be more practical? We aren't talking about covering the Mojave in solar panels. My point on the
blathering idiots, of which Feinstein is right near the top, (but she doesn't have the patent, as nearly all the 'genius' House & Senate are also of her ilk, imo),
flapping her gums about a well done solar initiative "cluttering up" any freakin area.

Yes, the US should have started non-petroleum initiatives earlier, but nothing like Today, to start...but, alas there is no capable operation
that could initiate/oversee and make it happen as critically as we need it. A "gov't" monster doing this is not the answer, either, imo.

The last solar really done in the Mojave was in the late '80s. That site pitches the next version coming on in late 2010/11, and a drop in
the bucket, energy producing wise, imo.

Back at the Power Hungry Ranch, we are tilting at windmills, (no pun), and T.Boone Pickens was on the mark; but, with oil at $50 and
gas at 2 bucks, Congress's short memory and the US Public's pollyanna 'tude and equally short memory and blase' outlook suggest we
are all dumb and happy and some miracle will occur.

I'm just happy that my town of a whopping 6,000 people has over 6 windmills generating electricity. Come on folks, get crackin'.

[blondboinsd]

Originally Posted by hpjunkie

i know im gonna get it for this.

but i agree with the now solar panels in the mojave. if you have been there and can appreciate it's beuty, you'll know what im talking about.

besides we already have solar panels there.
Solar Central Power Towers


im all for energy alternatives 100% yet I know there is somewhere more practical to put up solar panels. I hear the governators home is big, put em there...

All last these last minute fixes are crappy and rushed. If the US gov would have started this program years ago we wouldn't be in a fix to find real estate, becaue a few years back i remember a lot of big lot for this sort of technology. What's there now? Walmart, Applebees, Starbuck, Best Buy.

I 100 percent agree on the above. I think those so quick to blast this should take a trip to the Mojave before making such 1 sided judgements.

[lo_jack]

Originally Posted by blondboinsd

I 100 percent agree on the above. I think those so quick to blast this should take a trip to the Mojave before making such 1 sided judgements.

At what price point to you personally, would you find this to be acceptable? .20/kWh? .30? More?

I will find it hysterical when Al-Naimi hits the go button on a major solar expansion for the Kingdom before California does.