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Old 09-04-2009, 06:39 PM
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First of all I don't have a problem with a President giving a speech to school children with some advice to study hard and do well in school or other academic topics.

I do have a problem with a President addressing school children across the US asking them to write letters to support his political agenda. This bothers me greatly and has too much in common with what happens in Dictatorships around the world.

Keep partisan politics out of our school system. If you read my above posts I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy which permeates our two party system.
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I also think that change video is quite creepy
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:35 PM
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Ok let get this straight.
We agree that education for children is important.
So the President is going to give a speech
encouraging kids to stay in school and and make
education a goal....... Hmmmm "HOW HORRIBLE".

still drinking the kool aid, ehhhh?
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:30 PM
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Haven't had Kool Aid in Years. I bet it's still good though....

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I'm sure the Democrats will be questioning Obama on the cost of producing & broadcasting this speech, since there are such scarce education dollars...

Using Agency Funds for Bush Speech Is Ruled Legal; Some House Democrats Had Questioned Paying for Broadcast With Education Dept. Money
The Washington Post | October 18, 1991| Kenneth J. Cooper

It was legal for the Education Department to pay broadcast production costs for President Bush's speech to the nation's schoolchildren earlier this month, the General Accounting Office has concluded.

A number of House Democrats had questioned the use of $26,750 in department funds to hire a private company to tape and disseminate Bush's Oct. 1 speech from the Alice Deal Junior High School in Northwest Washington. The critics charged that Bush inappropriately turned scarce education dollars to his own political purposes in staging an event to show his interest in domestic issues.
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Hey lets have these 2 role models give the speech.
Bill O'Reilly & Rush Limbaugh. That should satisfy Obama's critics......
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Hey lets have these 2 role models give the speech.
Bill O'Reilly & Rush Limbaugh. That should satisfy Obama's critics......
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The Department of Education lesson plans and Obama's education agenda

September 3, 7:59 PMSeattle Conservative Culture ExaminerDaniel Crandall




Continuing an earlier column addressing President Obama's speech to students, I thought some readers might want to know what is in the now "de-politicized" lesson plans developed by the the President's Department of Education.
As noted earlier, the speech itself is not necessarily new. The depth of organization and media saturation behind it is unique, though some might argue that CNN, PBS, et al broadcasting a Bush '41 speech during the schoolday had the potential to reach as many students. Everyone should be concerned with the Department of Education's involvement.
Here are a few interesting suggestions for questions to ponder before, during and after the President's speech from the DOE's Pre-K through 6 Grade "Menu of Classroom Activities"
What is the president asking me to do?
What new ideas and actions is the president challenging me to think about?
What specific job is he asking me to do?
Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?
What do you think the president wants us to do?
Does the speech make you want to do anything?
Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?
Pre-K through Sixth Grade children range from 3 to 12 years old. Should President Obama really be asking 3 year olds to "do" something? And if so, what should 3 year olds be doing for the "American people?"
Much of the Seventh through Twelfth Grade "Menu of Classroom Activities" may be vague enough to avoid the stigma of indoctrination. However, it repeats many of the same question asked of Pre-K through Sixth Grade childern.
Is President Obama inspiring you to do anything? Is he challenging you to do anything?
What do you believe are the challenges of your generation?
How can you be a part of addressing these challenges?
As was noted in an earlier column, the DOE was reported to have toned down the message from helping students, even those as young as 3 years old, discover how they can "help the President" to how students can "achieve their short-term and long-term education goals." Do these questions seem toned down to you? I still see students being asked how they can do this President.
Many will emphasize that the speech merely encourages students to pursue their educational goals. It should be noted that a fair amount of the activities recommended in the 7th - 12th Grade Guide does reflect this. In fact, there are exercises in the 7th - 12th Grade Guide that direct students to create a video "explaining why education is important and how education will help them achieve their dreams." Education is certainly a worthy goal. Let us not forget, however, President Obama's overriding agenda for his first year.
The President's trifecta is Health Care, Energy, and Education; "President Barack Obama challenged the nation's vested interests to a legislative duel ... saying he will fight to change health care, energy and education in dramatic ways that will upset the status quo."
According to the White House Education website, "President Obama is committed to providing every child access to a complete and competitive education, from cradle through career." [emphasis added]
The American public has seen what lengths this administration will go to push through a national health insurance reform agenda. It has seen how "Cap and Trade" legislation was forced through the House, with very little time for a thorough debate. I cannot help but wonder how the Obama White House might use thousands of children's videos declaring each student's dreams to push a "cradle to career" education agenda intended to "upset the status quo."
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Barry, isn't it YOUR generation that controlled the banks, comprises the majority of senators, and representatives, and is ultimately responsible for our quagmire?
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Could be but in all honesty

#1 I have no clue who controlled the banks,
#2 Who comprised the majority of senators, and representatives.

But I do know who is ultimately responsible for our quagmire
and that's gonna have to be an entirely new thread.

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If a certain segment of the population is excluded from the decision making process of the financial market and the political process then would their specific generation be responsible for the quagmire we face?

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