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Old 12-07-2009, 08:41 PM
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What about all the people who have lost their
jobs, people who have no health care for what
ever their reason, people who lose their homes
from catastrophic health issues and the list goes
on.

The way I understand it, there are many who's
prime directive is to obstruct the process just because
they lost the election and they want to see Obama fail.
I'm not anywhere in the political mainstream to determine
the validity of that point but the language Mr. read expressed
is what I've heard over and over again from the GOP.

Politicians and citizens alike seem to have the opinion that
if it isn't my idea that gets accepted then I'm not accepting
yours no matter how good it is.

All the political bickering is tiresome and indicative of a
fail corrupt system. A sinking ship that people keep trying
to patch. I feel sorry for the people who keep supporting it......


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They SHOULD obstruct this kind of "progressive reform" in the Senate. It is absurd. Point of fact, today I went to the DR....showed my CF card, paid 10.00, got what I needed...walked out. Some broken health care system
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:12 PM
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What about all the people who have lost their
jobs, people who have no health care for what
ever their reason, people who lose their homes
from catastrophic health issues and the list goes
on.

The way I understand it, there are many who's
prime directive is to obstruct the process just because
they lost the election and they want to see Obama fail.
I'm not anywhere in the political mainstream to determine
the validity of that point but the language Mr. read expressed
is what I've heard over and over again from the GOP.

Politicians and citizens alike seem to have the opinion that
if it isn't my idea that gets accepted then I'm not accepting
yours no matter how good it is.

All the political bickering is tiresome and indicative of a
fail corrupt system. A sinking ship that people keep trying
to patch. I feel sorry for the people who keep supporting it......

Yeah uh-huh and in 1300 the world was flat. Point being, please show me any stats that agree on the items you're quoting and how we should punish 90% of the population for it......nothing stops you as an individual for donating to a charity to help. And in Maryland, not hospital turns anyone away without insurance, point of fact.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:28 PM
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You actually need stats to verify, that people have lost their jobs
and now they don't have health insurance?
You need stats to prove that millions don't have health insurance?
You need stats to prove people have lost their homes
due to catastrophic health issues?

You can't be serious.........
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:31 PM
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You actually need stats to verify, that people have lost their jobs
and now they don't have health insurance?
You need stats to prove that millions don't have health insurance?
You need stats to prove people have lost their homes
due to catastrophic health issues?

You can't be serious.........
Well if we were in kindergarten those comments would work as a debate rationale. How many didn't have insurance to begin with, how many choose not to have insurance, how many just left their parents policy, how many were leaving their jobs....ALL of those are classified by DEMs as people without insurance. And when you can show me the percentage of people who lost their home that weren't in sh_t loans..then will discuss that as if it pertains to health care And let me know when that "magical number you get" hits over 10% of the population, you know without the illegals and people I just mentioned

Again, feel free to create a fund to "help those" without health care...oh wait, again, in MD you're covered without insurance at a hospital..dang it.
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Old 12-07-2009, 09:38 PM
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Thank you for your respectful comment.
No further comment from me is required.

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Well if we were in kindergarten those comments would work as a debate rationale. How many didn't have insurance to begin with, how many choose not to have insurance, how many just left their parents policy, how many were leaving their jobs....ALL of those are classified by DEMs as people without insurance. And when you can show me the percentage of people who lost their home that weren't in sh_t loans..then will discuss that as if it pertains to health care And let me know when that "magical number you get" hits over 10% of the population, you know without the illegals and people I just mentioned

Again, feel free to create a fund to "help those" without health care...oh wait, again, in MD you're covered without insurance at a hospital..dang it.
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I think Harry can enjoy his last days as a Senator and we vote him out. He is a retard. I am 30 and my work offers insurance for an unsightly fee but I choose not to participate. Instead when I go to the dentist, doctor, and eye doctor I just pay cash or debit card. Which often leads to a nice discount. But under this new retarded idea called health care bill I will be forced!

Something needs to change...
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:05 AM
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I think Harry can enjoy his last days as a Senator and we vote him out. He is a retard. I am 30 and my work offers insurance for an unsightly fee but I choose not to participate. Instead when I go to the dentist, doctor, and eye doctor I just pay cash or debit card. Which often leads to a nice discount. But under this new retarded idea called health care bill I will be forced!

Something needs to change...
Exactly! You have that choice and DEMs and Liberals don't seem to like that.
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Old 12-08-2009, 08:47 AM
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the way I hear it is insurance companies are crapping on policy holders , using any excuse to avoid paying out .
Obama wants to crap on the insurance companies and I don`t blame him , just be grateful i`m not in office .
seems to me like someone is actually trying to help people , but too many are crying wolf in case they have to pay 50 cents a week in tax to fund it .
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I think Harry can enjoy his last days as a Senator and we vote him out.
Unfortunately, you or I have no say in whether Harry will or won't be re-elected. It is up to the fine folks in Nevada to make that decision.

Fortunately, Nevada poll numbers suggest he very well may be spending his last days as a Senator.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:53 AM
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What about all the people who have lost their
jobs, people who have no health care for what
ever their reason, people who lose their homes
from catastrophic health issues and the list goes
on.

The way I understand it, there are many who's
prime directive is to obstruct the process just because
they lost the election and they want to see Obama fail.
I'm not anywhere in the political mainstream to determine
the validity of that point but the language Mr. read expressed
is what I've heard over and over again from the GOP.

Politicians and citizens alike seem to have the opinion that
if it isn't my idea that gets accepted then I'm not accepting
yours no matter how good it is.

All the political bickering is tiresome and indicative of a
fail corrupt system. A sinking ship that people keep trying
to patch. I feel sorry for the people who keep supporting it......
Then open up Medicare for all of those who need it (because we all know what a wonderful system that is). But don't make the rest of us "lucky" people that are happy with our healthcare change our plans or penalize us because we are not on the government system.
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