50% of Americans don't pay federal income tax

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Originally Posted by Thunder22

[Fraser]

Originally Posted by Thunder22

1 term. Don't be surprised.

Obama's star may be fast fading (well that the impression we get over here) but won't his fate as a one-termer or not be determined by the ability of the Republicans to put up a credible alternative?

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by Fraser

Obama's star may be fast fading (well that the impression we get over here) but won't his fate as a one-termer or not be determined by the ability of the Republicans to put up a credible alternative?

Unfortunately, as the lefties did in the last few elections by voting for anyone as long as they were a democrat, I fear that republicans will do the same come November, no matter who is running.

We're in a very dark period in US politics right now, I don't think anyone has the answer for the fix. But I can tell you this, it isn't Socialism.

[Fraser]

Originally Posted by Thunder22

Unfortunately, as the lefties did in the last few elections by voting for anyone as long as they were a democrat, I fear that republicans will do the same come November, no matter who is running.

We're in a very dark period in US politics right now, I don't think anyone has the answer for the fix. But I can tell you this, it isn't Socialism.

I would have thought that there would be those people who always vote Democrat no matter what and those who vote Republican no matter what. What really counts is those people in the middle ... we call them swinging voters down here. And those swinging voters may not be happy with Obama given his lack of real progress (even if they voted for him), but unless the Republicans can put up a viable alternative they will stick with Obama anyway.

[Thunder22]

Sticking with Obama due to lack of a viable Republican opponent is a very real concern, and if that happens, I hope that the Republicans take back the Senate and House to at least keep the lefties in check and maybe reverse some of the bullshit that has already passed.

[CarsRmyVICE]

Originally Posted by Thunder22

Sticking with Obama due to lack of a viable Republican opponent is a very real concern, and if that happens, I hope that the Republicans take back the Senate and House to at least keep the lefties in check and maybe reverse some of the bullshit that has already passed.

I could not agree more. I am an independent who voted for Obama, considering I would not ever have a hand in putting an idiot like Palin in office. If the republicans decide that she is going to be a part of the ticket again this time around I will surely vote obama again. Then again new york will go Dem regardless. I wish we would trash the electoral college

[Repoman]

One term!?! Heck, I was thinking impeachment. He sure is trying the constitution with all these stimulus/healthcare spend money we ain't got programs.

I'm certain I've read somewhere that government shall not get involved with free enterprise . . . doesn't the federal government own 60% of GM. GM's commercials should say "support your federal government, buy a chevy."

That income tax crap is a joke anyway. Highly complicated and discriminatory. Been saying for decades need to scrap it in favor of flat nationwide sales tax.

[Quicksilver]

Thunder; Let's not get emotional, use profanity and
make it personal. Try to be civil if you can.

Yup that story story you heard on the radio about 10 men
is all good but I don't see none of those suits
or Professors of economics from wherever running for office.

What I do see is a lot of complaining.
I honestly wish the complainers could be King
for a Day. I believe the complaining would stop when people
could see for themselves just how hard the job really is.

But Oh no lets not acknowledge any good being done
let's be productive and complain because things are
not going our way, or the way we believe it should go.

If you are that intent on Believing that your financial world
is coming to an end why not pack up your smart pills,
head to DC and give those stupid leaders of ours a hand.
But don't be getting disagreeable with me just because I don't
agree with some of your one sided Rhetoric....
I'm just not buying it.......

[LeMansX5]

1 term or not we are doomed either way. Heard on TV the other day that Sarah Palin and McCain are most popular republicans. We need some new candidates for 2012.

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Thunder; Let's not get emotional, use profanity and
make it personal. Try to be civil if you can.

Yup that story story you heard on the radio about 10 men
is all good but I don't see none of those suits
or Professors of economics from wherever running for office.

What I do see is a lot of complaining.
I honestly wish the complainers could be King
for a Day. I believe the complaining would stop when people
could see for themselves just how hard the job really is.

But Oh no lets not acknowledge any good being done
let's be productive and complain because things are
not going our way, or the way we believe it should go.

If you are that intent on Believing that your financial world
is coming to an end why not pack up your smart pills,
head to DC and give those stupid leaders of ours a hand.
But don't be getting disagreeable with me just because I don't
agree with some of your one sided Rhetoric....
I'm just not buying it.......

You're "just not buying it" because as usual you're the definition of fanboy in denial. Whether you voted for him or not, you blindly defend Obama no matter what the topic.

Regarding profanity, fuck it, don't care.

Not being emotional, I leave that to you, I'm happily sitting on my couch, sipping a scotch and watching Sportscenter.

Personal? I can't control how you take things, if you don't want to get personal, don't take it personally. Problem solved.

Regarding your comment about the dinner: Is that really all you have to say? "i don't see them running for office"? Not very insightful. Maybe I expect too much.

What you are seeing is complaining. You're right, I tend to complain when I'm treated unfairly. Where you're wrong is the motivation.

Let me spell it out:

I'm against big government.

I'm against being unfairly taxed more than my share.

I'm for Americans being responsible for themselves instead of sucking on the Government teat.

I'm for people working and earning a wage instead of being lazy and collecting welfare (let me be clear here, some people need welfare, and it's there for them, it's not there for people as a habitual form of income when they could be working)

I'm for our leaders being truthful with me.

I'm against socialism.

I'm for freedom of religion.

I'm against extremists on the left and the right.

Bush was a mental midget.

Obama is teleprompter reading talking head.

Now, that's what I stand for.

Regarding your comment of helping our leaders: I've done just that, I've done what every American should do, and I voiced my opinion with my vote. That's how the system works. I've also contacted my local reps when I felt the need. So, that being said, thanks for the suggestion to "lend a hand", I already have.

What have you done besides drink the kool-aid?