OK...Finally we get the truth from Obama and his agenda.

[motordavid]

Imo, it's a comment made by a sitting prez, and in these times, everything
is scrutinized, dissected, spun and used for fodder by "both sides" of the
political spectrum.

Whether one likes O, or thinks he is Marx's 2nd coming, is not the point.
He, or any prez doesn't write the "laws"; our genius elected officials do.

I have no dog in this fight, as most of you know I have utter disregard for
most politicians/bureaucrats, et al.

My question to my Obama beating geezer buds is "who do you want as prez"
and, "other than emotions involved, why would your 'pick' be better in terms
of real world situations and direction?"

I seldom hear much response to my question...
GL, mD

[Quicksilver]

MD;

Originally Posted by motordavid

Imo, it's a comment made by a sitting prez, and in these times, everything
is scrutinized, dissected, spun and used for fodder by "both sides" of the
political spectrum.

Whether one likes O, or thinks he is Marx's 2nd coming, is not the point.
He, or any prez doesn't write the "laws"; our genius elected officials do.

I have no dog in this fight, as most of you know I have utter disregard for
most politicians/bureaucrats, et al.

My question to my Obama beating geezer buds is "who do you want as prez"
and, "other than emotions involved, why would your 'pick' be better in terms
of real world situations and direction?"

I seldom hear much response to my question...
GL, mD

[Dannyell]

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy

PRESIDENT OBAMA: "Now, what we’re doing, I want to be clear, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money."

Do you want the Government to set a Limit on what we can make as individual United States Citizens? This could even include your company. After-all there is a point where they make "enough money".

Wealth Redistribution plain and simple.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Obama To Wall Street: "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

U can't just pick sentences out of context and criticize them without looking at what is being criticized. Obviously Obama was referring to these investment companies...

[Quicksilver]

It must be slow at work Huh......
Nothing else to do except find someone
to call names. Very mature......

Your right about one thing though.

Carry on

[Thunder22]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

It must be slow at work Huh......
Nothing else to do except find someone
to call names. Very mature......

Your right about one thing though.

Carry on

A stalker isn't exactly complimentary.

have a good night.

[Quicksilver]

Now you know how it feels.
Let's stay on topic and dispense
with the name calling. Agreed???

[Wagner]

Just to point to a comment made earlier, Obama doesn't make the laws..Congress does. In turn, no matter what his point of view it doesn't mean the legislature must follow suite. Ask Carter about that. Obama campaigned on a pseudo-socialist platform so it really shouldn't be a shock that is what he wants. He wants a larger government involvement because in his eyes, that makes for a better America. Sadly, most Americans prefer big brothers help than not.

OK, total tangent:

Like most Presidents he rode in with a great deal of fan-fair which has passed and he now has an approval rating in keeping with almost any sitting President near the half point of their term. Nothing exceptional. He followed in step, whether he said so or not, with what Bush did before him. Continuing the execution of TARP and wars in Iraq/Afghanistan. Both things he railed against in his campaign pitch. His only distinguishing push was health care reform which became an utter debacle, which is now coming home to roost. I actually applaud the effort to at least get Congress to do something on Health Care even though I believe his track is incredibly wrong. He takes a hard stance against 'corrupt' big business but doesn't fault the government for creating the problem (see his finance reform agenda which did not discuss Fannie/Freddie which was core to the mortgage fall out, nor does it address the Federal Reserve which created and exacerbated the condition). This strikes a cord with honest workers who believe that you SHOULD get a bonus for doing your job well, and that 250K is not rich.

I believe Obama painted himself in a corner with his debt commission. The first items they are looking at is Social Security and Obama-Care. Probably not what Obama intended, however this could be a GREAT point for him. If they do declare Obama-Care to be cut and he follows through, to some extent on that, he will go up a few points in my eyes for really wanting to solve the problem.

Does Obama have socialist or Marxist tenancies? Absolutely, read the book "Stalin, Lenin and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe (Amazon.com: Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe (9781400040056): Robert Gellately: Books) and you can draw exact parallels in practice. Does that make him a complete Socialist determined to completely undermine the US Constitution? No. However, some of his actions like running up a 14+T dollar debt make you wonder what he intends for the future of America. If anything at all. IMO, Obama believes that Unionized labor is best and that working in mass is much more efficient than the individual (just look at his biggest supporters).

IMO, he very much fits the persona of someone you'd probably like to hang with (more so that Bush did, at least to me). I believe he genuinely feels larger government helps. However, the United States of America is not built that way. He would have some serious changes to make to make his vision possible, and that isn't going to happen.

[Wagner]

So MD, who would I suggest as Pres? Hard to say. I'd most likely pick Ron Paul. I've read every book he has written and a lot about him as a person. He seems genuine in his love of the US Constitution and rules of the land. Problem is he isn't a game playing politician. He doesn't tend to tow a line for a party, what that means is he stands no shot of getting on the ticket for President at the end of the game.

I would HIGHLY encourage everyone to read any of Ron Paul's books. I believe the Rep party will pick Mitt Romney in 2012. In my fantasy world I'd hope that Ron Paul, pushed by Tea Party support, would get the Rep nomination. However, I doubt that would ever be allowed by the GOP and DEMS would rail against Ron Paul for wanting to remove most social programs from the US Government, no matter how much common sense it makes.

[Quicksilver]

Good to see you back in the mix.
I enjoy your opinion.

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by Quicksilver

Good to see you back in the mix.
I enjoy your opinion.

Thanks man.