What's the matter with Donald Trump.

[EODguy]

Why are liberals angered so easily and why do they act so insane?
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The quick and dirty answer is that they aren’t. Someone who follows liberal values is generally pretty hard to anger and quite level headed kind of by definition. The average person who calls themselves a liberal at this point, however, don’t tend to hold any liberal values. In fact, they tend to be directly opposed to those very same values.

If you look at the very far left, there’s an overwhelming totalitarian value system there. Everyone has to agree with them because they’re morally “right” and “good” and to disagree makes you evil. If you study their behaviour, they’re not even really angry at the individual who disagrees with them, however. It’s not even really anger at all, but rather it’s a disgust response. You’re looking at a similar reaction to someone who you just threw a bucket of literal feces over them, because that’s basically how they view it.

This is, for all intents and purposes, not political but religious. As such, you don’t get a reasoned response, you get a defensive response or a disgust response, but not a reasoned one.

For example, let’s take the implied “liberals” you speak of and how they have an insistence upon the concept of equality of outcome, whereas an individual who follows liberal values would be directly opposed to such and desire instead an equality of opportunity.

For the former group, if you suggested different outcomes is actually ideal, you will almost invariably be met with anger and pretty much insanity because the vast bulk of them can’t really explain their position as they don’t understand it, and the few who do, only understand it by excessive amounts of cognitive dissonance.

For the latter group, if you suggested equality of opportunity were a bad idea, you’d instead be met with maybe confusion and an explanation of their position, or to attempt to understand where you’re coming from.

So yeah, basically the question kinda doesn’t work since it’s the wrong question. What you mean is progressives, not liberals. So to answer the question you meant to ask, they treat it as a religion. To question their dogma is unthinkable and abhorrent. It’s not just a matter of being correct, but a matter of morality, and if you even so much as question that they may be wrong, you’re attacking them personally as their very personality and identity is rooted so deeply in their beliefs that you can’t extract one from the other. Any suggestion, no matter how small, that they may be wrong is an outright insult to them because you are saying they, as an individual, are evil, because they “are” their beliefs.

It’s practically impossible, by definition, to maintain that line of reasoning while holding liberal values.


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[Maruzo]

What're you gonna do?

He did win both popular vote and the electoral, so at least there won't be any conspiracy theories about the legitimacy flying about this time around.

For me I'll just ignore politics altogether for 4 years and try to endure it. It's just 4 years, keep reminding myself that.

I do hope the country and its people won't be too badly hurt because of him this time around.

Fingers crossed!

[EODguy]

Considering how he did so much good for the Country during his 1st four years, I'm not sure why people are so dishonest in saying that things were bad under Trump before or better under Biden later. The only things people seem to recall are the bullshit things pushed by those opposed to him or their supporters. If someone was actually an honorable person they wouldn't be able to deny the shit that was so hinky that even Europeans and Arabs were wondering why the reports, charges, etc were even given credence.

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[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by EODguy

Considering how he did so much good for the Country during his 1st four years, I'm not sure why people are so dishonest in saying that things were bad under Trump before or better under Biden later. The only things people seem to recall are the bullshit things pushed by those opposed to him or their supporters. If someone was actually an honorable person they wouldn't be able to deny the shit that was so hinky that even Europeans and Arabs were wondering why the reports, charges, etc were even given credence.

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That's the problem. People who said he did bad aren't dishonest or dishonorable. They genuinely thought he was a threat to our democracy.

Conversely, People who said he did great aren't necessarily one-sided or stubborn. They genuinely thought he was a great leader.

I think people take parts of Trump's speech and actions, the part that they like or dislike and impose upon it their version of who they think Trump really is.

Future historians will have a definitive say about Trump as a president and as a human being.

Regardless, his legacy will compose of many enduring political and economical influences in this country. For better or for worse.

[EODguy]

From the National Archives....




https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...ishments-2018/




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[Maruzo]

Originally Posted by EODguy

From the National Archives....




https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov...ishments-2018/




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The website does start with " trumpwhitehouse" So it might help if you can find the same endorsement of accomplishments from other sources NOT having any ties with him.

That said I will gladly take the information at its face value and hope that he improves upon all these fine work he's done in the past, and brings us 4 more years of good times. Less division, if possible this time around.

I really hope that after four years, the middle class will climb up in numbers, that they improve on their financial situation, and the inflation goes down in a meaningful way.

p.s. Housing shortage seems to be a long term issue at the moment, so I won't hold him or the next president accountable if it doesn't get better.

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by Maruzo

The website does start with " trumpwhitehouse" So it might help if you can find the same endorsement of accomplishments from other sources NOT having any ties with him.



That said I will gladly take the information at its face value and hope that he improves upon all these fine work he's done in the past, and brings us 4 more years of good times. Less division, if possible this time around.



I really hope that after four years, the middle class will climb up in numbers, that they improve on their financial situation, and the inflation goes down in a meaningful way.



p.s. Housing shortage seems to be a long term issue at the moment, so I won't hold him or the next president accountable if it doesn't get better.

True it from the Whitehouse and the Trump is added in front to denote which administration you are looking at. If you were to enter it as Whitehouse archive when you search for information on a specific administration it will show it in front, i.e. Biden, Obama, etc. But this is the National Archives format, not sure how to give a source that isn't a news site although I thought that the archives would have held some gravitas so people wouldn't be thinking it was slanted for or against. Live and learn I guess.

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[80stech]

I'll admit that as I was following along a bit on the campaigning before the election that I might have voted for Trump myself if I lived in the US, but I had no idea that he would be such an asshole towards Canada and try to take over Greenland and Gaza and extort the Ukraine. Did you guys who voted for him expect this??

[EODguy]

Originally Posted by 80stech

I'll admit that as I was following along a bit on the campaigning before the election that I might have voted for Trump myself if I lived in the US, but I had no idea that he would be such an asshole towards Canada and try to take over Greenland and Gaza and extort the Ukraine. Did you guys who voted for him expect this??

Greenland... It was done as ploy to get it more secured against Russian movements/threats. (It worked)

Canada.... Was done as a threat to get Canada to secure its border as they agreed in a law they passed 7 years ago (it worked too)

Gaza.... Similar deal of threat of outside interference to get other Arab countries to knock shit off. (doubtful it'll work completely)

Tariffs.... worked against Mexico, Colombia, Canada, etc.

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