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Old 03-02-2025, 11:30 PM
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Unpredictable and now "fluid" teriffs (some of which might violate Trump's own trade agreements) should be really good for attracting new business to start up. No wonder Putin calls him a "genius"
LA Times and a few other news outlets investigated his finances and found he's bankrupted multiple times in his life.

Just about all the new business ventures he ever got into failed.

He's still rich, but i doubt much of it is from his own effort.

Running this country seems to have given his personal finances a much needed boost this past 10 years.
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LA Times and a few other news outlets investigated his finances and found he's bankrupted multiple times in his life.



Just about all the new business ventures he ever got into failed.



He's still rich, but i doubt much of it is from his own effort.



Running this country seems to have given his personal finances a much needed boost this past 10 years.
Trump has had (I believe) 7 bankruptcy filings and each one was for a corporation or division that had either a project fail (buildings that couldn't get permitted, not selling when finished, etc) or for a slowdown in an area like Atlantic city out of almost 100 projects/divisions/corporate holdings. As for "getting richer during his 1st term that is 100% bullshit. He took no salary during his term and donated it to worthy groups and had numerous cities, states and even foreign countries/companies drop doing business with Trump holdings and he is verifiably the ONLY President to leave office poorer than when he entered. I know you have an unreasonable hatred of him but stop the lying. You can hate someone for how they act, talk, etc but to equate that to their work just shows a lack of critical thinking. Anyone who believes that the Biden administration was good for America has decided to put their "party" over the good of the people as a whole in the same way someone who decides that "if I get mine (individually) but fuck everyone else" is acting like a politician and people are tired of it.


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Trump has had (I believe) 7 bankruptcy filings and each one was for a corporation or division that had either a project fail (buildings that couldn't get permitted, not selling when finished, etc) or for a slowdown in an area like Atlantic city out of almost 100 projects/divisions/corporate holdings. As for "getting richer during his 1st term that is 100% bullshit. He took no salary during his term and donated it to worthy groups and had numerous cities, states and even foreign countries/companies drop doing business with Trump holdings and he is verifiably the ONLY President to leave office poorer than when he entered. I know you have an unreasonable hatred of him but stop the lying. You can hate someone for how they act, talk, etc but to equate that to their work just shows a lack of critical thinking. Anyone who believes that the Biden administration was good for America has decided to put their "party" over the good of the people as a whole in the same way someone who decides that "if I get mine (individually) but fuck everyone else" is acting like a politician and people are tired of it.


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7 bankruptcies confirmed by you and you gave him an excuse for each and every single one. Now who’s being naive here?

Seriously is it that hard to agree that he’s just a bad at running businesses? That he has bad business acumen? Not that hard. But suck ups will continue to suck up I suppose.

There are many incidences of him and his family trying to benefit financially by usurping the power of his presidency for personally financial gains. Demanding that official visits by foreign officials to stay at his own resorts and charging much higher than normal rates comes to mind. His secret service details are charged above normal rates to stay at his resort. They were asked not to stay at other nearby hotels. But yeah sure, find an excuse for that too.

It just looks bad, to any subjective third party. Maybe you’re just too close to see any of it. Or perhaps you just have an unreasonable fondness for this wanna be dictator who’s openly said more than once that he’s the law ( no congress makes the law. Not him) and that he “ wants to be a dictator on day one” his own words.

Too many to mention. But his words and action just isn’t that of an American president that we’ve seen going back decades.

The open shaming of a hard fighting president against communist regime comes to mind. Zelenskyy goes back to Europe and is embraced by 27 nato countries, all except one, us. He’s single handedly reversed the us stand on the war in Ukraine. All that good will we’ve built up with Ukraine supporting its defense against Russian aggression gets tossed aside like garbage. We’ve now truly wasted billions because he pushed Zelensky away and into the arms of the European Union. Good job wasting tax payers money. They were ready to sign mineral rights agreement that could have helped us recoup some of that aid to Ukraine, but he had to piss off zelensky so that Putin could see how the US is on Putin’s side. It’s so fucking laughable and shameful that openly broadcasted meeting. I feel sorry for all the hard fighting Ukrainians who died trying to protect their country’s sovereignty only to have him disgrace their memory by berating their president time and again during that meeting.

I don’t need to like a president to want him to succeed. My personal feelings has no bearing in his presidency, nor yours for that matter. But open your eyes, his actions so far hasn’t really shown he’s going to succeed in making our lives better. I am seeing more conflicts, more division, more of the same tactics he’s employed during his first term. Honestly, I didn’t feel the need to post anything negative against any one online during Bidens term.

Think about that for a second.
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When someone from CBS News asked Warren Buffett, a successful billionaire investor, about what he thinks the impact tariffs might have on inflation, he said this: "Overtime, they are a tax on goods. I mean, the Tooth Fairy doesn't pay 'em."

He went on to say " ...we've had a lot of experience with them. They are an act of war to some degree."

I don't pretend to be a smarter and more capable investor than someone like Warren Buffett. So I do take his comments on tariffs seriously.

And with Trump getting ready to implement tariff on most of our supplies imported from overseas, that means most of our businesses are faced with further increases in costs due to tariffs.

p.s. Dow Jones dropped 700 points today after Trump announced that Canada and Mexico have run out of time to avoid 25% tariffs. He will enact the levy increase starting tomorrow.
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7 bankruptcies confirmed by you and you gave him an excuse for each and every single one. Now who’s being naive here?



Seriously is it that hard to agree that he’s just a bad at running businesses? That he has bad business acumen? Not that hard. But suck ups will continue to suck up I suppose.



There are many incidences of him and his family trying to benefit financially by usurping the power of his presidency for personally financial gains. Demanding that official visits by foreign officials to stay at his own resorts and charging much higher than normal rates comes to mind. His secret service details are charged above normal rates to stay at his resort. They were asked not to stay at other nearby hotels. But yeah sure, find an excuse for that too.



It just looks bad, to any subjective third party. Maybe you’re just too close to see any of it. Or perhaps you just have an unreasonable fondness for this wanna be dictator who’s openly said more than once that he’s the law ( no congress makes the law. Not him) and that he “ wants to be a dictator on day one” his own words.



Too many to mention. But his words and action just isn’t that of an American president that we’ve seen going back decades.



The open shaming of a hard fighting president against communist regime comes to mind. Zelenskyy goes back to Europe and is embraced by 27 nato countries, all except one, us. He’s single handedly reversed the us stand on the war in Ukraine. All that good will we’ve built up with Ukraine supporting its defense against Russian aggression gets tossed aside like garbage. We’ve now truly wasted billions because he pushed Zelensky away and into the arms of the European Union. Good job wasting tax payers money. They were ready to sign mineral rights agreement that could have helped us recoup some of that aid to Ukraine, but he had to piss off zelensky so that Putin could see how the US is on Putin’s side. It’s so fucking laughable and shameful that openly broadcasted meeting. I feel sorry for all the hard fighting Ukrainians who died trying to protect their country’s sovereignty only to have him disgrace their memory by berating their president time and again during that meeting.



I don’t need to like a president to want him to succeed. My personal feelings has no bearing in his presidency, nor yours for that matter. But open your eyes, his actions so far hasn’t really shown he’s going to succeed in making our lives better. I am seeing more conflicts, more division, more of the same tactics he’s employed during his first term. Honestly, I didn’t feel the need to post anything negative against any one online during Bidens term.



Think about that for a second.
Well first I went and checked and it was 6 bankruptcy' not 7 and I gave what an honest person that understands the rules of the English language calls an "explanation" but you do you....

Secondly your comment about him being bad in business shows that your bias is well into dumbass territory. Trump has had just over 500 businesses, projects and out those 6 ended in bankruptcy. That comes out to approximately a 98.8% success rate! Apparently dumbasses are going to dumbass.

I will type slowly so that you can understand... Trump is the ONLY US President to leave office poorer than when he entered. I can say that the Department of State doesn't recommend, demand or setup where foreign dignitaries will stay for visiting the US in anyway as that is a security risk no other country will accept. The USSS has had rules on distance and locations for them to stay when off rotation on trips and unless it's an adjoining property that also helps block access they'll be in the same building but different floor than POTUS and it was the same when I worked Presidents George H.W. and Bill Clinton details, also if you want to look at rates for hotels, travel etc go to the JFTR vol. 2 as that's the rates the government has mandated will be paid per area and anything over must come from the submitting agency's budget.

Subjective 3rd party? You?
Trump never said he wants to be a dictator, that was said by media outlets and only a moron would take the words of someone's opponent as gospel because that's how socialists come to power, through morons who parrot what they're told.

The shaming of Zelensky was 100% on him for his attitude against the administration and by bringing up topics that should have stayed behind closed doors and if you were honest (I said WERE) you'd see that even Zelenskys foreign minister about loses her shit why Z started his attitude. In case you forgot the US has provided approximately 75% of all aid to Ukraine and for Z to show up and be a dick doesn't fly. You wouldn't go to a loan officer and flap your cock-holster like that when trying to get a loan and you damn sure wouldn't put someone with a powerful position on the spot in public since they'd have to slap you down for no ther reason than if they didn't they'd weaken their position/authority.

For someone who wants Trump to succeed even though you dislike him, you sure are parroting lies that undermine his administration and refuse to acknowledge that he's done quite a bit to put America back on track.
Examples... Canada had tariffs on US goods, dairy, poultry, automobiles and parts before yet you didn't know that or that Canada authorized strengthening their border almost 10 years ago yet didn't get around to it until our tariff war started.

Mexico was the same but with the addition of them helping people from all other countries get through their border as fast as possible so the illegals weren't a burden on their country or that every president of Mexico has ties or support from a cartel.

That Zelensky is about to start his 6th year of a 5 year presidency, shutdown the rival political party, arrested them and took over completely radio and television stations that supported the opposition party (who also don't want Russia in Ukraine) declared martial law, banned elections for president, parliament and judiciary posts.

I'm not sure how you were able to type "Honestly, I didn’t feel the need to post anything negative against any one online during Bidens term." and think that somehow makes you look like a person that only wants what's best for the Country. It only shows support of a political party.

Trump has said shit that I think is wrong or stupid but so far it's been his actions that show he's doing what he said he'd do and with a politician that's a break from the norm. I have stated before that most of the people who support this administration give ZERO fucks that Uganda has to to pay for their own trans-positive choir, that Sesame Street (burka edition) got canceled, etc, if the US wants to be a place where we can realize the American dream we need to invest in ourselves and not every shitbag feel good thing in/for other countries. Trump is doing that and if people would pull their heads out of their asses, they'd wonder why people complain about the finding of fraud, waste and abuse instead of the actual FRAUD, WASTE AND ABUSE...

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Well first I went and checked and it was 6 bankruptcy' not 7 and I gave what an honest person that understands the rules of the English language calls an "explanation" but you do you....

Secondly your comment about him being bad in business shows that your bias is well into dumbass territory. Trump has had just over 500 businesses, projects and out those 6 ended in bankruptcy. That comes out to approximately a 98.8% success rate! Apparently dumbasses are going to dumbass.

It's laughable you continue to berate fellow posters on this forum. Time again whenever somebody does not share your point of view, you call them names and dismiss their intelligence.

You know who you remind me of? A classroom bully, and coincidentally, Donald Trump.

LA Times did an investigative reporting years ago on his finances with deutsche bank and found that he repeatedly negated on his loan obligations. He owed the bank billions, which he can't pay. The debt turned bad in the bank's books. It was a major scandal. Google it.

He has been known to refuse payment to his contractors, it's a well-known fact that he stiff his contractors in the new york real state circle.

I will type slowly so that you can understand... Trump is the ONLY US President to leave office poorer than when he entered. I can say that the Department of State doesn't recommend, demand or setup where foreign dignitaries will stay for visiting the US in anyway as that is a security risk no other country will accept. The USSS has had rules on distance and locations for them to stay when off rotation on trips and unless it's an adjoining property that also helps block access they'll be in the same building but different floor than POTUS and it was the same when I worked Presidents George H.W. and Bill Clinton details, also if you want to look at rates for hotels, travel etc go to the JFTR vol. 2 as that's the rates the government has mandated will be paid per area and anything over must come from the submitting agency's budget.

That's nice, and I believe you have the right information. But i'm not the one posting the overcharges his resort charge to the secret service protecting him and his family. These are information posted by news outlets. His own business benefited from providing lodging and other services to government officials.

That I am sure is something that is both frowned upon and possibly morally reprehensible.

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Trump never said he wants to be a dictator, that was said by media outlets and only a moron would take the words of someone's opponent as gospel because that's how socialists come to power, through morons who parrot what they're told.

The quotes were straight from his mouth. Here it is: "We love this guy,” Trump said of Hannity. “He says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said: ‘No, no, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border, and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling. After that, I’m not a dictator.’”

Here's the link from Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/trump-han...ae7dd7f1235c72

The title of the article reads: "Trump's vows to only be a dictator on day one follows growing worry over his authoritarian rhetoric"

The shaming of Zelensky was 100% on him for his attitude against the administration and by bringing up topics that should have stayed behind closed doors and if you were honest (I said WERE) you'd see that even Zelenskys foreign minister about loses her shit why Z started his attitude. In case you forgot the US has provided approximately 75% of all aid to Ukraine and for Z to show up and be a dick doesn't fly. You wouldn't go to a loan officer and flap your cock-holster like that when trying to get a loan and you damn sure wouldn't put someone with a powerful position on the spot in public since they'd have to slap you down for no ther reason than if they didn't they'd weaken their position/authority.

I'm sure you failed to see that both Trump and Vance cornered him, attacked him verbally, and insisted that Zelensky agree to give Russia the land that they're occupying, sign over mining rights, and agree that the us will not provide protection to Ukraine if it gets into another conflict.

Real diplomacy is done behind closed doors. The talk Trump's delegates had with Putin's people right before the Zelensky meeting was done without any press present, no one knew what was discussed.

The televised meeting? Rishi Sunak on BBC called "Trump's treatment of Zelensky "wrong". New York Times Opinion calls the meeting "Disgraceful display in the Oval Office." NBC news says " Trump-Zelenskyy clash marks a defining turn away from U.S. defense of democracies" LA Times Letters to the Editor: "Trump’s shameful, dictator-emboldening treatment of Zelensky"

There's plenty more, i'm sure it's not hard to find.

For someone who wants Trump to succeed even though you dislike him, you sure are parroting lies that undermine his administration and refuse to acknowledge that he's done quite a bit to put America back on track.
Examples... Canada had tariffs on US goods, dairy, poultry, automobiles and parts before yet you didn't know that or that Canada authorized strengthening their border almost 10 years ago yet didn't get around to it until our tariff war started.

Mexico was the same but with the addition of them helping people from all other countries get through their border as fast as possible so the illegals weren't a burden on their country or that every president of Mexico has ties or support from a cartel.

If you are going to tell me 25% tariff on Canadian and Mexican goods is going to be a good idea for the US economy in the long run, I think you are probably one of the very few in this world who feels that way.

Warren Buffet didn't think so. Do you reallly think you're as brilliant as him?

That Zelensky is about to start his 6th year of a 5 year presidency, shutdown the rival political party, arrested them and took over completely radio and television stations that supported the opposition party (who also don't want Russia in Ukraine) declared martial law, banned elections for president, parliament and judiciary posts.

Zelensky is a war time president. Shutting down rival political party and arresting media outlets are war time strategies to consolidate power and reduce opposing media influence from Russia, I'm sure you know this. No need to bring this up as a negative either.

His extended term is due to the ongoing war. America did the same when we were in WWII, so don't bring this up as a negative.

Zelensky opened said he'll return his power and also agrees to a new election as soon as the war ends.

His primary political opponent openly agrees with Zelensky's continued war efforts and gave her full support to his leadership of the country.

I'm not sure how you were able to type "Honestly, I didn’t feel the need to post anything negative against any one online during Bidens term." and think that somehow makes you look like a person that only wants what's best for the Country. It only shows support of a political party.

Not really. I didn't support a lot of things demorats did the past 4 years. But I do like how there's less division and less conflict within our country. A point which you conveniently dismissed from my post.
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