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Old 11-13-2012, 02:26 PM
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The Petraeus et al Soap Opera...

Surprised this hasn't come up on the JukeBox here...
Put this in Politics, as I suspect it will become 'politicized' by many of our elected genius finger pointers.

One cannot make this stuff up, and if one did, even Hollywood wouldn't have bitten on the plot.
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Old 11-13-2012, 03:20 PM
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Gotta ask inwardly though, what is under all
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listening to media circus, i think that his personal life is his personal life - the guy is 60 and i wish i looked like that when i am 60... well, military training shows... he looks 40, if that... his wife - good partner and everything, bur she does look her age... no wonder he is splurging on a side - i shall not cast a stone, as i am not without a sin myself... let him be ...

on the other hand.. he is (was) in charge of the agency, that if the russians or chinese would have found out, we, as a nation would have been in a jeopardy...

so, as a private citizen, i'd say leave him alone, as the public figure (in that particular position, nonetheless!!!), he had done the right thing by stepping down...
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:08 AM
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It is entertaining to say the least !
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Does congress REALLY want to question him about his affairs? After all, he was the director of the CIA. That may be a can-o-worms politicians on the Hill may not want to mess with.
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The guy is 60 and i wish i looked like that when i am 60... well, military training shows... he looks 40

Really?? I thought he was over 70.....
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Surprised this hasn't come up on the JukeBox here...
I guess there were better songs to play...
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I'm in late but would agree that this is much ado about nothing. The worst part, I think, is that Jill Kelley is getting all the fame and notoriety she so craved. Nothing like a scandal to launch another bright star. Her 9-1-1 call claiming some diplomatic protection as an honorary consul was pretty hilarious. And in other new, Mayor McCheese is not actually a real mayor!
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Not sure it is much ado about nothing, other than the Tampa tramps and the good looking/aggressive/mistress of the universe biographer. The General was smitten with himself, imo, and not exactly the generals of 40 or 20 yrs ago, no dis intended. Not sure my local FBI office would respond to lame emails I sometimes get...squeaky wheels that weren't really squeaky, but all the Homeland Gang is looking for boogie men under everyone's bed, ala the Commie Hunt of the '40s & '50s, imo.

But, an interesting view from Nocera, whom I have been reading for a decade plus; was a helluva biz writer and now does 'what the fook' columns for the NewYawkTimes:

Op-Ed Columnist

Hacking General Petraeus

By JOE NOCERA

Published: November 16, 2012

This is not going to end well for the F.B.I.

We are now entering the second phase of the David Petraeus scandal. The first phase began on Nov. 9 when Petraeus revealed that he had had an affair and resigned as C.I.A. director. For the next week, the press scrambled to keep abreast of every head-spinning new plot twist. General Petraeus slept with whom? Jill Kelley did what? Petraeus’s biographer/mistress titled her book what? Phase 1 of any big national scandal ends when the New York tabloids stop writing their laugh-out-loud cover headlines (“Cloak and Shag Her” screamed The New York Post) and relegate the story to the inside pages. That happened on Friday.

In Phase 2, people begin to grapple with the scandal’s larger meaning, assuming, of course, that it has some larger meaning. The sordid John Edwards affair, for instance, showed that he had never been fit for public office, much less the vice presidency. The Bernie Madoff scandal showed that investors will happily suspend disbelief when their fund manager’s returns are too good to be true.

But the Petraeus scandal could well end up teaching some very different lessons. If the most admired military man in a generation can have his e-mail hacked by F.B.I. agents, then none of us are safe from the post-9/11 surveillance machine. And if an affair is all it takes to force such a man from office, then we truly have lost all sense of proportion.

Let’s go back to the scene of the so-called crime, to Tampa, Fla., where Kelley, an attractive wannabe socialite, gets some unsettling e-mails from an anonymous sender. If she had any sense, she would block the e-mail address and be done with it. But because she knows that men will bend the rules for her — after all, high-ranking military officers granted her unfettered access to MacDill Air Force Base — she goes to her (male) F.B.I. friend, who advocates with his superiors for an investigation. They agree.

But on what grounds? I looked up the cyber-stalking statute. It says that a crime has been committed when e-mail “causes substantial emotion distress” or places the victim in “reasonable fear of death or serious bodily injury.”

This strikes me as a pretty high standard. It is possible, I suppose, that the anonymous e-mails Kelley was getting from Paula Broadwell, Petraeus’s former mistress, met that standard. And the F.B.I. has worked hard to make Broadwell’s e-mails sound as threatening as possible. But once they leak out, as they surely will, I strongly suspect that we’ll see that the law was just a fig leaf.

So, too, with the “classified information” Broadwell is supposed to have. (And didn’t you love the F.B.I.’s big show of carting away her computers?) Given the government’s propensity, since 9/11, to stamp “classified” on every piece of paper short of the paper towels in the commissary, my guess is that this claim is also going to turn out to be less than earth-shattering. Once the F.B.I. learned the truth — that it was just about sex — it needed a high-minded rationale to keep snooping. Broadwell did the F.B.I. a huge favor by leaving “classified” information on her computer.

I understand why Petraeus felt he needed to resign; the affair had violated his own code of honor. I also understand that his propensity for publicity and control made him unpopular among the C.I.A. rank-and-file. But I still wish President Obama had refused his request to resign.

I wish the president had said that although General Petraeus had made a mistake in his personal life — an all-too-human mistake, made by millions of people every day — the consequences of that mistake should be dealt with by him, his wife and his former lover. I wish he had said that the affair should not trump his decades of public service, or stop him from continuing to serve. I wish he had said that the Justice Department’s inspector general was going to conduct an inquiry into whether the F.B.I. had acted appropriately in handling Kelley’s complaint.

On MSNBC on Friday afternoon, Andrea Mitchell spoke to Senator Roy Blunt, a Republican from Missouri, who had just come from a closed-door Intelligence Committee meeting where Petraeus had testified.

“Do you think he had to resign?” she asked.

“Based on what I know, I wouldn’t think so,” Blunt replied. “Clearly,” he added, “this is not someone who is going to be subject to blackmail.” Thus did Blunt swat away the one legitimate rationale for forcing Petraeus from his job because of his affair.

In the weeks to come, a lot more people are going to come to the same conclusion — and are going to ask the same questions about the ease with which the government can look at our e-mails and peep into our bedrooms. Such a rethinking is long overdue.

Hacking General Petraeus - NYTimes.com
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