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noncom23 11-13-2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 906584)
we are all being scared by a boogey man of the socialism - but how many on this board have lived in a socialist environment to actually testify to how bad, or how good it actually is?

I can only tell you of being raised in
a home in a post Hitler era. It scared
the crap out of me. Never forget.
Try not to repeat.

TerminatorX5 11-13-2012 03:33 PM

post-hitler era? hitler ran national socialist party - slightly (gee, not really slightly!!) diferrent from socialism... hitler preached equality for germans... while everyone else could just go to hell... socialism is different - and we already preach it, when we say that everyone has an equal shot at the american dream, everyone gets equal pay, everyone has equal rights, all the minority groups have equal rights... this is the socialism... add to the that the police state we are in (the USA), and you are approching the germany circa mid-30ies...
scary!!!

TerminatorX5 11-13-2012 03:37 PM

i was talking socilaism a la russia before Gorbatchev...

noncom23 11-13-2012 03:46 PM

[QUOTE=TerminatorX5;906590]post-hitler era? hitler ran national socialist party - slightly (gee, not really slightly!!) diferrent from socialism... hitler preached equality for germans... while everyone else could just go to hell... socialism is different - and we already preach it, when we say that everyone has an equal shot at the american dream, everyone gets equal pay, everyone has equal rights, all the minority groups have equal rights... this is the socialism... add to the that the police state we are in (the USA), and you are approching the germany circa mid-30ies...
scary!!![/

Our Republic is of equal opportunity
Everybody has a shot on their own.
Not everyone has to take from another
to then get their shot. Individualism.
You might recall it. Make it on your
own and take resposibilty for
yourself.

TerminatorX5 11-13-2012 03:50 PM

this reminds me of a law of the jungle - we are not savages... if i see someone falls on a street, i will offer a helping hand... why do we not extend the individualism standard to other countries?...


check out foreignassistance.gov, and tell me that that money given away could not do us better here in the US...

noncom23 11-13-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 906584)
we are all being scared by a boogey man of the socialism - but how many on this board have lived in a socialist environment to actually testify to how bad, or how good it actually is?

So, if its not too bad, lets
just go with it?

noncom23 11-13-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 906594)
this reminds me of a law of the jungle - we are not savages... if i see someone falls on a street, i will offer a helping hand... why do we not extend the individualism standard to other countries?...


check out foreignassistance.gov, and tell me that that money given away could not do us better here in the US...

Charity is the helping hand. Not taxation.

TerminatorX5 11-13-2012 04:01 PM

we are taxing US population, but offering helping hand to egypt? nothing aginst egypt, very old civilization, but - can't they be on their own?... not just egypt.. a few other countries, whose population is not very friendly to us...

alexmish 11-13-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 906599)
we are taxing US population, but offering helping hand to egypt? nothing aginst egypt, very old civilization, but - can't they be on their own?... not just egypt.. a few other countries, whose population is not very friendly to us...

Agree 100%

alexmish 11-13-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TerminatorX5 (Post 906591)
i was talking socilaism a la russia before Gorbatchev...

I did... And am old enough to remember and understand the difference. And can only see the downslope at this point. When I moved to US 23 years ago, I thought it would be my first and only emigration. No longer sure about that!


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