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paqs 10-25-2010 03:48 PM

X5 M Engine Fault Reduced Power Warning
 
Hi Folks,

At the weekend my X5 M with 700 miles on it reported an engine fault reduced power warning and went into limp home mode, the message cleared on the next restart.

Went to the dealer today and they said the car had stored a load of errors related to the left bank vanos indicating cam timing errors, he said these can't have been *reel* errors as the engine would have shut down completely.

They reset the codes and ran some diagnostic sequence on the engine which reported all was ok, no faults found and sent me on my way.

Within 2 hours I had the warning back and was back in reduced power mode until I restarted the engine again. The dealer thinks the car is suffering from software issues and is going to talk to Germany tomorrow.

Anyone come across anything similar, not impressed, 2 week old car with 700 miles on it!

Rez 10-25-2010 06:38 PM

sucks man. have not heard about this one before

Naz24 10-25-2010 07:10 PM

That's unfortunate. Have you been properly breaking the car in? Or have you been driving it hard from the get-go..... Honestly lol

E53is 10-26-2010 12:32 AM

:damn: damn....yeah i have, bmw took back my X5M over this and other problems. i got the software line too, they "fixed" it 3x before they gave up. this post worries the hell out of me...


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Originally Posted by paqs (Post 777187)
Hi Folks,

At the weekend my X5 M with 700 miles on it reported an engine fault reduced power warning and went into limp home mode, the message cleared on the next restart.

Went to the dealer today and they said the car had stored a load of errors related to the left bank vanos indicating cam timing errors, he said these can't have been *reel* errors as the engine would have shut down completely.

They reset the codes and ran some diagnostic sequence on the engine which reported all was ok, no faults found and sent me on my way.

Within 2 hours I had the warning back and was back in reduced power mode until I restarted the engine again. The dealer thinks the car is suffering from software issues and is going to talk to Germany tomorrow.

Anyone come across anything similar, not impressed, 2 week old car with 700 miles on it!


paqs 10-26-2010 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Naz24 (Post 777222)
That's unfortunate. Have you been properly breaking the car in? Or have you been driving it hard from the get-go..... Honestly lol

It's been driven very carefully, its hardly ever been above 3000 rpm except for a couple of overtakes, slow acceleration through the gears and no making the engine work, very rarely used 6th gear so the engine isn't forced to pull from low rpm. I've had it in a mix of M and normal mode as well. Also because I do a short run to and from my business unit every day I have been deliberately taking the car on a 10 mile detour to get everything warmed up nicely each day.

paqs 10-26-2010 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by E53is (Post 777285)
:damn: damn....yeah i have, bmw took back my X5M over this and other problems. i got the software line too, they "fixed" it 3x before they gave up. this post worries the hell out of me...

Did you have this exact same problem? If so what fixes did they try that failed?

E53is 10-26-2010 04:54 AM

It's not your fault. i did pretty much the same thing..
for the fail safe mode problem, they updated my software to their latest spec, they also hooked it up to germany and had techs there take a look at it, what they did i couldnt tell you. about 160 miles after it was updated it failed, just doing a highway run. then after the techs "fixed it " it failed, 2 more times all around and under 200 miles. on the 5th fail i was having a talk with bmw about replacing the car, while i waited to hear from them it failed again (that was nail in the coffin) they had no idea what was wrong, they still do not know. :dunno:

paqs 10-26-2010 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by E53is (Post 777307)
It's not your fault. i did pretty much the same thing..
for the fail safe mode problem, they updated my software to their latest spec, they also hooked it up to germany and had techs there take a look at it, what they did i couldnt tell you. about 160 miles after it was updated it failed, just doing a highway run. then after the techs "fixed it " it failed, 2 more times all around and under 200 miles. on the 5th fail i was having a talk with bmw about replacing the car, while i waited to hear from them it failed again (that was nail in the coffin) they had no idea what was wrong, they still do not know. :dunno:

Thanks for the info, do you know what error codes yours was showing, was it showing a vanos timing error?

E53is 10-26-2010 05:22 AM

i can try to find out, but i wasnt told anything to specific, just how far it avg' between it failing. one time i took off at light next to a vette and it failed, 2 others were just driving on the highway and the others were getting off an exit and picking up a lot of speed;)

all were in M mode sport if i recall correctly, the speeds varied greatly along with the rate of acceleration...

ill see what i can find out for you, i should be picking my car up (again) very soon... (i am still using it till' the new one arrives)

good luck with your car i really hope its not heading down the path mine did :dunno:

paqs 10-26-2010 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by E53is (Post 777309)
i can try to find out, but i wasnt told anything to specific, just how far it avg' between it failing. one time i took off at light next to a vette and it failed, 2 others were just driving on the highway and the others were getting off an exit and picking up a lot of speed;)

all were in M mode sport if i recall correctly, the speeds varied greatly along with the rate of acceleration...

ill see what i can find out for you, i should be picking my car up (again) very soon... (i am still using it till' the new one arrives)

good luck with your car i really hope its not heading down the path mine did :dunno:

Thanks any info appreciated, my first warning was in M mode at about 25 mph either very light or no throttle whilst turning a corner, 70 miles of fuel left in the tank at the time.

Second warning was yesterday after the dealer had cleared the codes and run a diagnostic, this was again in M mode speed approx 30 mph either light or no throttle, different tank of fuel this time with approx 300 miles left in the tank, both tanks of fuel were Esso Super Unleaded 98 RON from the same station if that makes any difference.

If this warning appeared whilst doing an overtake surely it could be dangerous, we are now worried about the driving it!


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