Retrofit LED headlights?
 

Has anyone done this/attempted to do this?

The new LED headlights look amazing, and was wondering how hard of a diy this would be and what you'd need?



Thanks

interesting idea... i'd like to see how it develops...

I have my doubts a retrofit would be feasible since the actual housing is different. Unless your talking about a direct replacement of the whole light assembly. That will probably be very expensive either way.

BMW EU has stated a retro fit kit will be available, it is currently 20 to 25 weeks out, and on my watch list. From what I've seen on the kit it will be fairly in depth including new headlights, wiring harnesses, and fuses/relay boxes. Coding my also be required.

James

who would have known - a retrofit kit is going to be!!!

Ask and you shall receive!!!!

Any updates on this???

It is already done but the price is $5000. Direct fit from X6

I found a pair of 2013 X5M OEM headlights for a smoking deal but I was unsure it they would plug and play. I called my bmw parts manager and he said you would need a new harness as well coded it to the ecu to allow the LEDS to be recognized.

Not a big deal.

Can you be more specific as to why it's not a big deal? I want to do this headlight swap but I feel it may be more complicated than I would want to get installer into.

Sorry, the rest of my edited message didn't send. It shouldn't be a big deal, I had the same problem on my old E53s aftermarket headlights, (Had LED and Xenon everything, + additional LEDs and Angel eyes) Just needed a few resistors and it was fine.

From what I remember there are 2 parts for each side, the headlight and a LED light module which goes behind it. The module is not cheap. You need both to make it work.

I see, so if you have module along with the headlights then its plug and play? Also, any coding that would have to be done to the ecu to make it work?

According to the latest ETK, an official retrofit kit is available for X5M and X6M. Can anyone provide the retrofit instruction?

Retrofit kit, headlights with LED 63132297442
Instructions come with the kit. The kit is US$6000. An expensive mod. I rather spent my money elsewhere.
BMW x6 2008 E71 E72 E70 x5 M European LED Headlight Retrofit Headlamp Pair | eBay

Way too much money IMO

I noticed that the LED headlight retrofit kid is only available for ECE LHD version cars, not available for RHD cars. According to the eBay list, in the Ask a Question, it seems just as simple as swap in and out, no need for wiring harness and code. Is it true?

A guy on XBimmers named "Motex" just had this conversion done

I understand that the retrofit instruction is included in the retrofit kit, can someone who ordered the retrofit kit upload the retrofit instruction here? I am planning to upgrade my X5M to adaptive LED headlights, but since there is no official kit for RHD cars, so I have to collect all the parts separately myself instead of buying the kit, therefore I need to know what parts are included in the kit and how to do the retrofit job. Thanks!

It's close to $8000 to do this swap

my first car was $1,500... lets see... for $8,000 i can buy 5 cars like that, and still have $500 to spare!!!!!

:bustingup:bustingup:bustingup

so maybe buying a 2nd hand with this option is the most feasible and economic way to have adaptive LED headlight, I think.

Now I found the kit details as attached pictures. If anyone here has an RHD cars, you may consider the parts used in the list and buy RHD LED headlights instead of LHD's, however, you still need to installation instruction. So anyone can provide the instruction will be extremely appreciated, then all of us can upgrade the standard adaptive xenon headlight to adaptive LED headlight including RHD and LHD cars.

If anyone wants to do this - I have two (I am using one) of the retrofit harnesses that BMW WILL NOT SELL in the U.S.

I have the retrofit instructions on PDF

And soon, I will be able to give a DIY write-up

That's great! Can't wait any longer! Can you upload the instruction to share?

From what I've been told by my SA is that the official retrofit kit is only available for European Spec. Trucks.

Tell me more about the harness?

Interested

Yes, the official kit is only for LHD ECE version cars. But I believe the instruction is exactly same on RHD ECE version cars, except using RHD headlights instead of LHD. Not sure if it is suitable for US version cars.

Pretty sure its the same. RHD is definitely not suitable for US. You would blind everyone :)

I am in Hong Kong where adopts RHD cars. If you are sure the kit is suitable for US version, then you can buy the kit and do it yourself and share the instruction with us.

The headlight spread pattern in US is very different from Euro for one. There are other differences too.

motivemagazine.com - Motive Tech: The Difference Between US and European Lights

$6k for set of led's headlights from dealers . Send me your headlights I reprofit them with my LEDs ( OE products) for hafl of the price.

I am in. How many months to do it? :stickpoke Still waiting, bro.;)

Lemans ... I'm sorry bro I got your projectors here been busy crazy with work I get them out to you soon.

Btw way I'm almost done with LEDs headlights into my 750li.... Pics coming soon.

I purchased US spec LED headlights and control modules. And since my truck is 2012 it has the correct washers and footwell module J.

So the only thing I couldn't get from US dealers was the harness that comes in the retrofit kit.

So, I found the part number and had a fellow forum "friend" in the Germany supply the cable. I didn't "trust" the part would ever show so I also ordered it from another source....both sources came through.

So, I have the extra harness.

If anyone wants a copy of the retrofit instructions - PM me with your email addy.

Would one harness work for both left and right or do you have a pair?

one harness does everything under the hood/both headlights

The retrofit kit is not EU only - and it is setup from BMW for LHD.

BMW informs me availability should change now that the lights are spec on US delivery X6 and X5 Ms

RHD led retro fit
 

Hi guys would like to join this thread any info would be great as it stands my
2011 x6 I purchased RHD led headlights + modules etc from my dealer plus any other bits from the retro kit we thought we might need while installing the technician said the wiring loom was incorrect for my car would this be the case if
the parts man ordered the loom as per instructions giving its for a LHD setup?

The cars still with the dealer.

Look forward to your comments:dunno:

I believe the instructions give RHD and LHD details

I sent you the retrofit instructions to your email per request

Didn't receive the instructions

oh, send me email again please

edit - found it

I just sent the retrofit instructions

PDF
 

Yes got it thanks still wonder if the wiring harness is the same for RHD cars?

Can you also send me the instructions? Thank you.

To quote the instructions:

"
All pictures show LHD cars; proceed accordingly on RHD cars."

I assume this means you just flip the harness over.

The quick and easy question - where is your under dash fuse panel?

Not sure about flipping the harness over my dealers trying to make this work but so far not getting anywhere they phoned technical support today still no further forward NOT looking good ATM

Cars at the dealers will check the fuse panel but pretty sure it's on the right Hand side to the centre console

Loom
 

Had a friend of mine look at the wiring diagram looks very straight forward,
Four wires to the headlights each plus two to the footwell module, two to the fuse box can't see why the retro kit loom wouldn't work on RHD. I'm beginning to think the dealers not prepared to put the time into it:dunno::dunno:

Ok have collected the car from BMW will continue with the install myself will keep you's posted on how I get on:yikes:

May I have the instruction as well please? My email: [email protected]

thanks!

Received with thanks!

May I have the instruction as well please?
[email protected]
Thanks!

May I also have the instructions please?

[email protected]

Can someone email me a copy of the instructions?

Would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance.

[email protected]

What happens If you don't change out the headlamp washer jets?

I called my dealer and they said the headlamp washers part # is the same 2010-2013

For sure the 2013 are current and don't need to be changed

Sent this evening, sorry for delay. I had to have another member send to me last night

correct - we are looking at any before 04/2012 (the beginning of production for the 2013 (led standard)

The issues at hand - the different part numbers only seem to be for X6M

I have a set of the new part number parts on order and should have them in hand when I return from vacation.

I will compare thoroughly and post pics if wanted showing any differences.

My best guess so far - our X5M only have one functioning headlight unit in each light housing...the center light seems to be painted black and does not (from looking quickly) seem to have any actual lighting parts.

SO, I am wondering if the nozzle on the LED is dual and the HID is single???

Although that doesn't explain how or why the X5M (with LEDs standard) have the same part number listed for all years and months of production.

Investigation to resume after June 30th

Stuart

BTW - Northern and I are communicating and working on this issue as best and as quickly as we can.

I have had these lights sitting in my downstairs family room since December - TIME TO GET THIS DONE

A little research today on parts needed (or probably not needed) for the conversion to LED headlights.

The headlight washer units: (the two differences, minor (a slightly different alignment pin/notch) and the "major" is the height and design of the actual nozzle unit...the spray pattern will be different (but not sure how) between the Xenon and the LEDs)

LED is the shorter (and sharper edged) nozzle

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The different alignment notches/pin...whatever you want to call it

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wait, did you get the kit from ebay? 4k offer?

EVERYTHING ELSE WAS IDENTICAL....So, money could be saved by not buying these???

I will give more details once I perform the actual install

I started running the wiring harness today while I have all the underhood panels removed to install the DPs

I finally picked up the car on Saturday and I am now back to working on this project:

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LED angels compared to regular angel eyes

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Angels alone

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Low beam

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greate job
can u please email me instruction and part number for retrofit harness
[email protected]
thanks in advance

Looks amazing! They are worth the money IMO. They completely transform to look of the X5's front end.

That is pretty cool! I want this on my car!

Hi guys,
sorry to jumped in the conversation. Am driving E70 X5 2010. just got my headlight retrofitted to LCI-AHL. However, had some problems encountered:
1. Turning on lights, corona rings will flicker.
2. Whenever I step on the gas, corona rings will flicker too. This only happen when the car is moving though.
3. AHL only working when its switched to auto mode. Its normal?
4. My car is RHD but bought the headlight for LHD. Any way to change the angle? cus right now driver side is higher than the passenger side.

Everything works great when the car stay still. mayb i could have the instruction as well? [email protected] many thanks in advance guys!

Albert

I just installed the FRM (Footwell Module in X5, controls lighting and other things) - the LED headlights work. With low beams it is the four upper portions and with high beams it is upper and lower portions of all four bowls.

I didn’t start the car - and I didn’t code…but no complaints from the car so far (without starting and no coding).

YAYYAYAYAYYAYYAYAYAYAYYAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

I will code the VO/FA in the am (copying the VO *vehicle order* from the CAS to the FRM) and the truck will be 100% done

everything coded and works perfectly

Can I get wiring hook up instructions please?

I emailed them to you - let me know if you rcvd them

I did. Awesome! Thank You very much!

NP - I had to order my harness from Europe - if you want to get the harness I can get you the email address of the vendor I used

i got a quick question for you. on the wiring diagram i understand everything exept routing a9-a10 to pin 49 of x14261 plug. do i add these 2 wires to the one that is there or do i cut it and connect them to the module only?other than that it looks pretty simple. btw i removed fenders to have an easy access. thanx a ton

they tap into the wire - leaving the original wire intact

Hi guys,
Have any idea which retrofit code must i add to VO to code the led headlights?

Thanks!

Add
+AHMU
$552

Delete
$522
$524

Hey guys my first post on here. Just got a 2012 X5M and was interested in this. 330i_ZHP is there a cheaper way to do this other than buying the retrofit for X5M or X6? I guess try to find the actual lights at a junk yard or something? Anybody got any ideas? $6500 is just a bit much for the parts haha!

someone selling a brand new set for 4k on ebay

BMW x5 x6 X5M X6M 2008 E70 E71 E72 LED Headlight Retrofit LED Headlights | eBay


330i great job on the retrofit. Car looks amazing with those. The LED headlights will only work on x6 x6m or x5m correct? Won't fit on a regular x5 e70.

Also what wheels do you have on your M? are those HREs?

I'm thinking of doing this for my x6m as well. I have the BMW instructions, which reference a 5-way miniature connector (item D in the instructions). Does anyone know what part no. this is?

it is just a simple connector used to splice the two wires (one from each headlight - in the add on harness) to the one (grey I think) wire coming out of the FRM3

if I recall, the connection we are talking about activates the led halos

I figured that was it, but did you have to buy these separately? If so, where did you get them and do you have a part no,?

(The picture and the description is the same for a part in a Mini Cooper headlight retrofit - but part nos. aren't listed!)

Thank again!

the plug is black (about an inch long) and came in the wiring harness kit

Awesome job man...
coming from the m3 world just a few months ago to the X///M world i was hoping to find ppl like you :)...
Could you email the instructions and contact info (and the asking price) of the vendor for the retrofit harness?
email : gallian93 AT yahoo
Thanks

I will later when I get home

Email sent - let me know if you need any other info

Got it! Thanks a bunch:thumbup:
Looks straight forward... therefore i will screw it a few times before getting it right :) I'll be working on soon.

Can i also have the diagram please, got all parts, the diagram is all i need now!
[email protected]

Thank you guys!!!

I am in Bermuda for another couple days. I can send them when I return

That would be great! Thank you!!

That would be great! Thank you!!

I just sent you the PDF - hope it helps

Any chance to share the instruction's PDF please .

my email is [email protected]

appreciate it big time

I just sent them

anyone can post this pdf retrofit instruction on forum please.
Thanks

I just emailed them to you - good luck

have 2012 mcb x5m .just got 2 used led light .can i have the instruction's PDF please . thank you. my email [email protected]

PDF sent - good luck and let me know if you have any questions

just got pdf.thanks 330i ZHP... my is 2012(Production date 2011/06...) do i need change footwell module and jets to make led headlight work? led light on the way.hope can get by next week.. where i can buy the wiring harness.thx!

do not bother with the headlight washers - they are nearly identical

mine is a late production 2012 and I had to change my FRM

HI.330i ZHP
what is the P/N for frm...and where i can get wiring harness?THX!

The footwell module (LCM) part number is 61359308375

I was able to source a retrofit cable harness here - Страница пои�ка

I'm Having a ton of trouble with the programming... Its at BMW as we speak. Apparently they stopped producing the program. My high beams are inoperable and so are my Day time running lamps... Everything else appears to work... HELP!

this was the same problem as mine - did you buy the latest FRM3 and code it?

Yes, new frm 3.

Then contact Ram at [email protected]. He has done quite a few successfully. The process is relatively simple once all the software is installed. But you REALLY have to know what you are doing. He will also code anything else you want at same time.

For anyone doing this take note: In the U.S. your BMW dealer will not be able to code your vehicle for retrofitted LED headlights. You will need to use a 3rd party to do the coding, such as Ram ([email protected]).

Having a major issue... The halo rings only work one side at a time. One side works then then that same side will go out, then the opposite side will illuminate while the other goes out. Have put 3 FRM's in. Vehicle has been coded by Ram.... HELP!!!!!!!!!!

I am not home this weekend and I cannot look at my notes - I will see if I can get you any help

If I recall - aren't the grey wires that route to the FRM the ones for the LED rings?

If so, do you have them tied to the same circuit?

Or were those two wires for the side markers?

If they are side markers - then is it the two wires that go to the right passenger side wall...

I do not have the PDF in front of me - I am thinking this is a wiring issue (hopefully something that simple)

330 ZHP, any chance you may be able to speak to my repair shop + my tech that works at mclaren( and BMW prior to mclaren). They will be available in the morning. Please get back to me as we are running out of ideas and going back to stock headlights may be our only viable option.

Chris Hade
917 seven six three six two 6 0

Can someone email me the pdf instruction
[email protected]

Here are the retrofit instructions

thank you

does work on a X5 2011?

The only E70 X5 that this applies to is the X5M

You would need more than what is said on here , example : fenders , bumper . Pretty much a full front end convention since the lights only fit e70/71 M & x6


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got it
thanks a lot

whoops - I emailed them to you before I came here to post. Someone already posted them

can u please email me instruction and part number for retrofit harness to [email protected]
thanks in advance

the instructions are downloadable from the link in post number 119 above. The harness part number is 61122312375

330 ZHP and folks who have done this retrofit, I just purchased a set of these lights on eBay. They are ECE pattern, so will be curious to see how they compare to our DOT pattern (there's been discussion on DOT vs ECE for years)

Anyway, in another thread you mentioned you had two wires coming into the interior that you didn't know what to do with - a black/green, black/blue). Did you end up just taping those back, or did you find where they went?

You also noted the Adaptive Cornering Control (I believe that is when the foglight comes on?) something to do with SA524 which is the option code for Adaptive COrnering...did you get that sorted out?

I have a 2012 X6, which I believe has a FRM 3, so I should be good with not having to replace it.

Chris

I did just tape off the unneeded wires.

I do not know about the differences for the light patterns for the E70 LED headlights specifically. My guess is the defined (__// up to the right light spread???)

For the X6M and X5m there isn't any foglights - so the adaptive movement is within the headlights and is controlled under $524 for the xenon light housings.

Once you add $552 and remove $524 and $522 in the VO the coding is complete.

This is of course after you have properly installed the harness and you have the latest FRM3.

My X5 is a mid 2012 build and I had to replace my FRM with the last version and code it with the VO.

Only then would everything work 100% properly.

Please provide the part number of your FRM3

mine had the 252 part number and I had to swap in the 375 part number

01 Footwell module 3 1 04/2013 61359287252 ENDED 01 Footwell module 3 1 61359308375

btw - the adaptive headlight on the E7x only controls light movement based on load on the vehicle and the direction of the steering input...

It is NOT the later (first avail on 7er) control over the lighting to place oncoming traffic in a "blind spot" of lighting

OK an update here.....Houston, we have a problem! :(

So the headlights I purchased via eBay are ECE pattern - I'm perfectly fine with that, however the seller does NOT know if they came from a LHD or RHD vehicle. Obviously that is a problem, as I'm not sure if they are usable in the US.

Here is the link to the auction

2013 2014 BMW x6 E71 LCI Pair Set Left Right Adaptive LED Headlight Assembly | eBay

Part #s off the pics are

7 277 453

7 277 454

I can't find these part numbers anywhere online. RealOEM shows nothing.

Might have to throw the towel in on this one. :(

Chris

P.S. 330ZHP, thanks so much for your responses, I will follow up once I sort this issue out. I was told you could program a older FRM3 and 'fool' it to thinking its a newer production car in order to get the programming to work? Hmmm.

Well, nevermind, seller found a set of DOT headlights (so bizarre this seller has multiple pairs, did they fall off a truck? heh) and is shipping those instead.

So all is well. Still curious 330ZHP if you are aware of changing the production date in the FRM3 - I was told this would allow the programming to work on LEDs without issue.

Chris

I have not heard of that "trick"

But I feel like in the coding you could program LHD or RHD

Interesting, perhaps the lenses can be electronically adjusted. That would be a cool trick if so, I know in Europe older BMW headlights had a manual adjustment for LHD/RHD as the driving requirements were different in various Euro countries if you traveled across borders.

For me it's fortunately a non-issue as the seller found a DOT set and shipped them today. Like you, the lights will stay in boxes for a few months until the weather warms up.

Yeah if you get bored, I would be curious to throw your older FRM3 module in and change the production date, I heard that will allow you to code the LEDs.

Chris

Are you asking me to send you the older FRM? If so, we can work something out

No - we can definitely try that at some point if you want, I was more curious if you wanted (in the Spring of course, haha) to put the old FRM back in, change the vehicle production date in the FRM only, and then try coding the LEDs.

Like you, these lights are going to sit until Spring, which is a bummer as I won't be able to check them for functionality, but I'm hoping I'll be OK.

Chris

Still sitting here waiting for the snow to disappear :confused:

Just curious, once I get the wiring harness installed and install the lights, prior to any programming, will anything work?

Chris

The lights will work, but you will likely get errors on the dash information screen and the functions that cause the headlights to move in sync with the steering wheel may not work properly until you have them coded.

Good to know, thanks Jeff :)

Chris

I am interested in accomplishing this LED headlight mod on my X5M at some point. Seems a little complicated though... I'm Hoping that all the bugs are able to get worked out.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7440/...e3f3795a_c.jpg

I just ordered a set!
Looks like I will need a wiring harness and a footwell module....

Where did you buy them

From a seller on ebay

My 2013 has the LED lights. I don't think I'd like another vehicle without them. I drove a 2015 X3 loaner while mine was in the shop. What a difference between the LED and non LED lights.

Did the loaner vehicle have Halogen or Xenon HID?
There's a huge difference between Halogen an Xenon....

Not sure how different Xenon and LED are.
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Yet

They were the Xeon I believe. My wife's TBSS has the Xeon and although bright they are not as clear and bright as the LED on the M. The amount of crisp clear light from the LED is great for nighttime driving.

OEM Bi-Xenons are awesome.
Aftermarket or fake Xenons.... not so much.

If the TBSS had Xenons, they were either the fake ones or an ebay aftermarket kit because it was not an available OEM option for that vehicle. So yes, they probably did suck. I have not experienced LED headlights yet,, but I can't imagine they would offer a significant improvement over Xenons (or at least not as much improvement as Xenon over Halogens), but they are the next generation of lighting and they sure look cool!

Oops you are correct. They are Halogens. I was typing and thinking of something else.
The Halogen lights on her truck are okay but not anything as clear and bright as the LED. The LED lights have a clear white light where the Halogens are a soft yellowish light.
After driving with the LED it is difficult to adjust back to the regular light.

Thanks for the correction on the TBSS lights. We bought it new so it has not been modified with a different light.
:thumbup:

The BMW LEDs are definitely brighter than BMW Xenons. I have both in house and seen them side-by-side.

Still no wiring harness....
:confused:

Just installed mine,Now i have to do the wiring part witch should be 2 wires per light and then the coding part.I will update on that once I'm done.

Excellence!
:thumbup:

Can anyone help me acquire a wiring harness for the LED retrofit?
Thanks.

I installed my headlights,it's a plug & play and also make sure you do have a FRM3 module(the only 2 things that do not work are your high beams an side LED).I have inside scoop from BMW and we were looking at the headlight harness and the only difference from the regular headlights and the LED headlights is 2 pins that are missing out of the stock harness(1 pin goes to the junction box and the other goes to the FRM3 Module from the headlight) that's each headlight.i already ordered from BMW the pigtails to do my own 2 wire harness per side and once done and coded I'll give an update and help anyone else do it.

That would be great!
I am sitting on my new headlights, waiting on a harness.

I've tried to order the harness on various euro websites, but the sites never allow me to complete the order. I have also tried to register on these sites, but this also fails.
(This has really sucked)

If you don't mind the error lights on cluster you can install the headlights,they will work but like I said the high beams and yellow corner LED will not.your turn signals,LED daytime running lights and tegular beams will work.

I would prefer to have full functionality.
Having Hi Beams, steering wheel inputs and corner lights are important to me.

Still bummed we have to take out a perfectly good FRM3 to get one with newer coding installed....BMW retrofit instructions note ISTA/P can update older FRM3 modules but of course no mention of how.

Any thoughts here? Bummer a new FRM3 is $300+.

If you have a Indy shop that's has a Autologic diagnostic tool,they can code your FRM3.

People here are saying you need to get the latest revision of the FRM3 in order to have it coded - apparently the older modules don't have the LED software in them to work properly.

In reading the retrofit document, BMW's ISTA tool can update the module without replacement.

Hmmmmm wait, can't we access ISTA online for $30 a day or something?

https://www.bmwtis.com/

Chris

OK... so while I am waiting for my harness to arrive, I can use the existing vehicle harness to power the LED Headlights; Only Low Beam, Turn signals and LED DRLs will work?

I don't have to buy a newer version FRM module?

So is it true that BMW's ISTA tool can update the existing module in my vehicle without replacement?

Gixxer - this is great news!

Nope, you need a special diagnostic head that is $1700 to use bmwtis online. Forget it.

Yes,Yes everything will work other than your highbeams,also as long as you have a FRM3 and does not have to be the latest Autologic will Code it in to work with your LED lights.if you have a FRM2 then you will not be able to code it.I am waiting on some pigtails to come in from BMW so i can pin the 2 remaning wires that are missing off the stock harness.

Tony I assume your shop has a Autologic diagnostic tool?

If so, would you be able to briefly post the steps in the Autologic tool (screens to go to) to get this done so that I could give the steps to a shop in my area that has it.

Chris

OK.... so I have confirmed that my shop has the Autologic diagnostic tool.
What are the steps needed to code the FRM?
Should the tech know how to do this?

Gixxer - Still wondering if I should wait until the harness arrives to do everything at once.

Sure when I get back from Vacations I will not mind posting some pics for you guys.Also the good thing about our shops having Autologic is that we also have the support we need to get any retrofit done as long as it's OEM.If it makes it any easier or helps you guys get ahead before I get back from my Vacation,tell your local shop to call Techical support for their Autologic and ask For Either Nelson or Rob(we all have the same tech support guys) I deal with Nelson a lot and he help me a lot when it came to coding with the Autologic.lmk if you guys anymore help.

Thank you, we really appreciate it! It's a waste buying a new module if it can be software upgraded. I'd rather give a local shop some business than to BMW with another module :)

NP :thumbup:

I do love the LED headlights!!

http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...ng-2015-sm.jpg

Very nice!

Still waiting on harness.
:(

Bought LED headlights several months ago.
Wiring harness finally arrived from Latvia yesterday...
Picked up a brand new FRM3 module at BMW today.

So now it begins!

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Hey Tony, what's the latest on yours?

Actually i just got back from Vacations and i haven't even turned to look at it,I have a lot of work here around the shop (catch up time)and i am also pulling the turbos out of my X5M to upgrade them as well and then retune her before the next Wannagofast event in September.

Here are some pics when i did the updates and coding with Autologic.

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Cool stuff!
I have everything I need to get this done...
I just need to find some time and a little help from my BMW repair shop friends.

NEED MORE PICS!!!
...of the install and completed front end pictures.
Maybe before and after?

How is the nighttime driving experience with LEDs vs. Xenons?

Completely different ,you are going to love the LED.

I haven't had the time yet to get my X6 apart and get this done - so I've had the LED lights since March and the harness since April :D Ahhhhh a vacation would be nice right about now.

It's a big project - I think the X6 will be apart two days - have to take front bumper off, maybe the fenders, we'll see.....

Thank you Tony for uploading those pictures - really appreciate it!

Chris

Sounds like you have been pulling off on this awesome upgrade:confused: for your Beast:D.
Also you do not have to take the bumper off,its not as bad as it seems.
Giodlucj on the project Chris.:thumbup:

Well, 10 hours later, I dived into this project today and let me tell you....this retrofit is NOT for the weak minded.

You WILL take your car apart...a lot. You need to be organized and remember where everything goes. You also need the proper tools on hand - torx bits, reverse torx bits, a rivet gun to install rivets, lots of sockets and extensions, etc.

A couple of tips while I still remember them:

a) To get access to the passenger side fusebox in order to install the two yellow/red wires, you NEED to release the connector from the fuse block. It's a hassle because it is UP there and tough to get your fingers on. Take some time and once you get it out the wires will clip right in to the connector without issue.

b) Follow 330ZHPs directions on routing the passenger side headlight wiring via the DME box. You will need to remove the air filters on the passenger side as he noted, and also remove the associated filter frame attached to the firewall with two spring loaded clips (330ZHP supplied pictures). Once you do that, you will then need to unbolt the DME frame via 5 reverse torx bolts. YES YOU WILL NEED A REVERSE TORX socket set! After you loosen and remove the bolts, you will clearly see the access way to route the wire. From there I used a dremel to cut a pathway for the wire so everything would still be sealed but easily run.

c) Drivers side firewall grommet was a complete pain in the ass. I finally got the wiring through after messing with it for over an hour. The wiring for the FRM module was easy with no issues - to install the pins into the sockets YOU MUST REMOVE THE CONNECTOR HOUSING which is held on by two tabs on the top side of the connector (You'll see them). Lift the tabs up with a flat blade screwdriver and slide them off, insert pins, slide back on.

d) Each headlight must have pins added/removed. Make sure you take the connector apart to do this - the exterior housing of the connector MUST be removed in order to put the pins in - the connector is held in by 4 tabs which you will see on the back of the connector. Lift each tab and the connector should start to pop out of the exterior housing.

e) FYI, installing each headlight assembly required removing the bottom LED computer module from each headlight - I then installed the headlight and reassembled the module back to the headlight.


The biggest challenge in this project is running all the wiring and not screwing anything up - you have to pay careful attention to what you are doing and YOU CAN'T BREAK ANYTHING. One false move - for example you break a pin - and you can be in a difficult situation.


I'll post some pictures once done...looking forward to putting the poor X6 all back together - rivet gun is on order!

I agree with Chris. This mod is not for the weak minded, however, I was able to find a better/quicker way around a few things. One quicker way to the passenger side access... Once I had all the filters and airbox removed, I started looking for ways around removing the DME box, then I discovered another route for wiring through the grommet (just like the drivers side).... forget removing anything under the hood on the passenger side, all you need to do can be accomplished inside the fender well. There is a thick rubberized access panel underneath the fender liner that is held in place by 4-8mm bolts. Remove this panel and you will be able to see the factory wiring harness grommet underneath the DME Box.... The grommet is still a pain in the ass just like the driver's side, but at least you don't have to deal with removing everything under the hood!

I was also able to maneuver the LED headlight into place without removing LED computer module, however it was extremely tight; it may have made it a little easier having the module out of the way.

I left one stinkin' bolt out and now I remember where it goes: behind the fender well that has already been riveted back together.....arrrrrrghh!!!!!
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I completely agree with you Gixxerboy - it's raining here today and I am still waiting to get the passenger side done - the wiring is just sitting in the engine bay :( Oh well, tomorrow will be the day.

Yeah, I was SUPER careful with the headlights as I sure as heck was not going to scratch the lights up. In fact I taped the lenses with blue painters tape so that I wouldn't scratch them during installation. I think BMW did this funky method of installing/removing the lights due to theft issues they had dealt with on previous models, but man, what a PAIN IN THE ASS. haha.

I made a quick video about the process, which isn't the most organized but will help people who want to do this in the future. I'll post it up shortly.

Chris

This is really gonna help me out in 2 weeks.. Thanks for all the updates everyone!

That was one of fears as well that I would scratch the headlights when I was installing them.lol

OK my video is up....thoughts/feedback appreciated.

https://youtu.be/nR01LeNTnRk



UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE ON VIDEO:

a) BMW DEALER WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PROGRAM/CODE LED LIGHTS. Find a shop that has the Autologic scan tool or order a programming cable and have a coder do it remotely.

b) UNLESS YOU HAVE A 2013-2014 X5M/X6, YOU MUST UPDATE YOUR FRM3 MODULE....NO IFS AND OR BUTS :) We are saving you time, trust us!

Chris

Great job with the video!

Thanks! Hope it helps someone down the road...

Outstanding video, Chris!!

It would have helped me if you had only osted it about a week earlier!
-LOL!

Thanks guys! Just an update on programming (not coding, programming).

I forgot that the authentic BMW dealership software most likely uses the VIN and checks it against a database of option codes the VIN has - so bringing the vehicle to the dealer to program the FRM is probably not going to work. I remember a guy with a 550i wanted to add ceramic controls to his car - he spent a LOT to do it - but ultimately the dealership system would NOT code his car because he didn't have the ceramic controls option code from the get go. Stupid, but it is what it is.

Sooooo I am off to find a Autologic system that will program without any BMW NA bullshit. Again, if your FRM3 is built after 10/10, you can have it programmed, otherwise you need to buy a new one and have it coded to your car. (You can also buy a new FRM3 and have it coded, depends upon how thrifty you are feeling haha).

Chris

Thanks Jeff! It was totally a amateur video and I was so brain dead in filming vertically, but it gets the point across.

Chris

Hey Tony! quick question for you - did you end up buying a new FRM3 module and let the Autologic tool code it, or did you use your existing FRM3 module that came with the truck to update the software and code it?

Do you recall if the halo rings worked on both sides before coding? Right now only my drivers side halo is working.

Chris

Chris, outstanding video. Removes a lot of the guess work for anyone contemplating this mod.

Well done.

Yeah Chris, mine is not coded (or programmed) yet either. I bought a new FRM3 from BMW.
My halos work.
The left side lowbeams, high beams and halos work, but no amber running lights or turn signals.
All right side functions work except high beams.
This is the weird part... since I swapped the FRM, the window switches and mirror switches are reversed, meaning that the left side switches operates the right side functions and vise-versa????
I'm hoping that autologic will fix that too.

My truck is still in the paint shop and the mechanic shop wants everything put back together (PDC sensors, etc) before he attempts any programming or coding, so it will likely be Monday before anything happens

:/

Another person posted the same problem with the FRM. Did you disconnect the battery before doing the swap?

Programming will resolve the problem. That FRM module controls a lot of functions, so just hang tight :) Your other option is to return it (if you can?) and just use your existing module.

Chris

Yes, I was sure to disconnect the battery.
I'm hoping that programming will solve the issues.

Hey Chris

Yes my halos both worked before before coding and I also used my existing FRM3,Make sure you code it first and right away it will require update with the Autoligic.