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semcoinc 04-19-2017 09:52 PM

PSB Bushings arrived today and I buttoned up the passenger side.

I peeked at the subframe bushings and they look in excellent shape, so I'll leave them in for now and tackle them on down the road sometime.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7...A=w666-h888-no

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CZ...=w1184-h888-no

Mike

semcoinc 04-20-2017 11:21 PM

Driver side deconstructed tonight.

Tomorrow will take the lower control arm to the indy for bushing press out and remove the CV axle, press out old ball joint and press in new one, and button it all up hopefully by tomorrow night.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ai...A=w665-h886-no

This control arm was very tired

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ox...Q=w665-h886-no

Maybe a wheel alignment on Saturday :dunno:

Mike

semcoinc 04-26-2017 08:55 AM

Got to the alignment shop on Monday with all my new suspension parts and CV axles.

Rear camber was unable to be put into spec with the eccentric. They got 3.0* and 3.8*.

So I am in the hunt for some adjustable arms and have found these and have them on order http://www.hardrace.com/UploadFile/P...816F1Q18RZ.jpg

HARDRACE GLOBAL - REAR UPPER CAMBER KIT?8685

All I can figure is that the upper camber arms I got may have been a wee bit too short to spec. They are aftermarket arms so that could be the cause. I have no way to compare and wasn't about to spring the bucks for a BMW factory arm.

The adjustable arms will allow me to fine tune the rear anyway.

Mike

oldskewel 04-26-2017 12:42 PM

You went with Lemfoerder rear upper control arms, right? If so, I used those with no problem. Was there some other aftermarket parts you used that may have caused the camber problems?

I would investigate more carefully to figure out why it's not alignable before going with an aftermarket adjustable arm like that. You might just be covering up a problem.

BTW on the camber alignment, you're talking almost 4 degrees there. It is a huge amount, and will be very easy to check yourself. You can make the camber adjustments (setting to their limits) yourself, and then measure camber yourself using an L-square or any right angle you can find. Not splitting hairs here. 4 degrees is yuge, should be visible just standing there looking at it. Before my rebuild, the lowest camber I could get was about 2.8* negative, but afterwards, I could get it as low as I wanted, and had the shop dial it in to the low end of spec around 1.5* negative.

That might be helpful if you want to search around, loosen + re-torque things, etc. to find where you're losing the camber, rather than taking it in for repeated alignments while you're looking.

BTW, yes your guide links looked shot. Mine were fine, and are still on there at 180k miles. When I did my work on the rear, I replaced some things that were fine but buried deep, like the integral links, and kept others, like the guide links, that I knew could be easily replaced if/when they ever actually fail. I would have replaced the swing arm bushings had I known that aftermarket versions were available.

semcoinc 04-26-2017 12:58 PM

Thanks for your insights Oldskewel.

Yes, I went with a lower grade of camber arm (Karlyn). Shame on me........and yes I can SEE the -3.8* of camber on the right rear. :wow:

I am committed to the adjustable arm and will use that to give me future flexibility as well. I'll be shooting for the low end of the spec as well -1.5*.

I changed my rear swing arm bushings out as well with polyurethane versions from PSB.

Mike

Fifty150hs 04-26-2017 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1107926)
Thanks for your insights Oldskewel.

Yes, I went with a lower grade of camber arm (Karlyn). Shame on me........and yes I can SEE the -3.8* of camber on the right rear. :wow:

I am committed to the adjustable arm and will use that to give me future flexibility as well. I'll be shooting for the low end of the spec as well -1.5*.

I changed my rear swing arm bushings out as well with polyurethane versions from PSB.

Mike

Did you change your rear ball joints?

Joshdub 04-26-2017 01:18 PM

Do you mind if I ask how much those control arms are? I was going to get some, but the only ones available at the time were ones with heim joints or a bajillion dollars.

semcoinc 04-26-2017 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifty150hs (Post 1107928)
Did you change your rear ball joints?

Yes, a near complete rear suspension rebuild:

rear ball joints (and I have the sweat and beat up tools to prove that I r=pressed old out and new in :wow:)

Integral link

Toe arm

Camber arm

New poly swing arm bushings

New KYB shocks


Mike

semcoinc 04-26-2017 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshdub (Post 1107929)
Do you mind if I ask how much those control arms are? I was going to get some, but the only ones available at the time were ones with heim joints or a bajillion dollars.

I got them for $200!

He has a shipment coming in and was able to get them on his next shipment.

Call and ask for Mike and maybe he can get you a set :dunno:

Their US dealer is in Florida

BuyHardRace.com

561-844-1008

Mike

tecboy99 04-26-2017 01:39 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/CZ...=w1184-h888-no

Mike[/QUOTE]

What rotors are those? They look nice and aggressive.


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