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PropellerHead 01-09-2019 02:31 AM

The Official Anybrand Android Radio setup thread.
 
The idea here is to share what you've done with your Android radio and to talk about how. There's a ton of information here about the installs, speakers, and amps. But I'd like to hear more from the community about how they're making their Android radio experience their own.

For me, I just yesterday discovered a widget for my home alarm system app. Like nearly any smart home interface, our alarm system app allows custom 'scenes'. I have one that sets one of 2 thermostats (where I spend most of the day in a home office). It opens our electric gate, and disarms the alarm system. I use this every day at least once. It's super nice to have the gate open, alarm not screaming on entry, and at night, when the opened gate triggers the perimeter and garage lights, a nice, bright path to the door.

The widget prevents me from having to open the app, navigate to the scene I want, and then confirm I wish for it to do what I have asked. Pictured below, the widget when pressed simply triggers a visual outer circle on the icon and begins the routine. This is WAY easier than the multiple clicks above while driving. :thumbup:

https://xoutpost.com/attachments/tes...link-radio.jpg
Another handy widget is the one for the I-Bus app. Shown to the right above, it populates the items I select from within the app and displays them on a smaller section, sharing the home screen with my other most often used items.

Finally, I really do like the Google calendar widget. We've been running off a calendar for family events like sports, dances, dates, dining, dalliance, and pretty much every other thing we do around here. It's great to see the calendar updated automatically as you start out and about for the day.

Then there's Torque. I have only recently been working with it, but I would like to create an environment where it periodically uploads trip data. I would like to retrieve it and analyze it- or at least know that I can. I see custom widgets for it and have no idea how to make the best use of all the data we have access to. If anyone can offer step x steps on the first cool things to get that started, I'd like to see that here.

So what're YOU doing with your Android head unit that you really like? What do you use *every* day beyond what comes with it? And if your application is standard, how are you using it and finding it so cool day after day? I'm dying to learn more about what others find cool.

Crowz 01-09-2019 04:37 AM

I'll contribute when I get a radio into the one I just bought. Wife has the e53 with the android so I don't get to mess with it anymore since I drive the 2013 with the factory radio right now.

EODguy 01-09-2019 06:10 AM

Great thread idea!!

For some reason I now can't change widgets on my dash/home display only delete/reinstall and I'm running the latest oreo 8.1 or 8.? so just in case it's that watch having auto update on!!

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Overboost 01-09-2019 08:39 AM

Great thread idea. This will be good reading for a lot of members. :thumbup:

semcoinc 01-09-2019 10:04 AM

Great thread Prop :thumbup:

I'm an early Android adopter with the Eonon GA6166 that had a puny 1GB RAM PX3 SoM (System on Motherboard) with Android 5.0. I upgraded this unit to a more robust 4GB RAM PX5 SoM from WITSON on Ali Express.

I highly recommend that any Android head unit buyer not consider anything less than at least 2GB RAM. With basic apps running on my original 1GB system I was near 80% utilization of RAM and app response was very anemic.

My 4GB system is very snappy with however many apps I want to run.

Also, the iBus app and USB stick hardware is a must have IMHO to preserve and improve access to the OBC and offers minor coding functionality.

I would encourage anyone thinking of the upgrade to buy as much head unit as your budget allows and even stretch a little because a subsequent upgrade could mean dragging that long FAKRA cable from the spare tire all the way to the dash all over again :wow: , which is not a pleasant exercise.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A-...=w1144-h858-no

You'll also greatly benefit from speaker upgrades with your new head unit and search will give you threads on great ideas from Xoutpost on successful speaker upgrade selections.

Mike

mr_robot 01-09-2019 10:25 AM

Wouldn't the long farka harness have to be only done once?

All these units have their own harness coming from the unit so it's their harness to a farka adapter to farka extension isn't it?

So as long as you place the headunit to farka adapter either behind the dash/glove box you can keep the extension cable in place like a modular wiring harness system.


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semcoinc 01-09-2019 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1151541)
Wouldn't the long farka harness have to be only done once?

All these units have their own harness coming from the unit so it's their harness to a farka adapter to farka extension isn't it?

So as long as you place the headunit to farka adapter either behind the dash/glove box you can keep the extension cable in place like a modular wiring harness system.


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I wish that were true and for some systems it might be :dunno:

However, the head unit upgrades that I have looked at have slightly different pin connections and rear connector block geometry on the back of the head unit. Personally, I'm not keen on a re-pinning project with an existing cable.

Other folks may be more comfortable with that kind of project work. :dunno:

Mike

PropellerHead 01-09-2019 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151542)
However, the head unit upgrades that I have looked at have slightly different pin connections and rear connector block geometry on the back of the head unit.

This was true in the E46 Eonon units I swapped. I really thought I'd be able to switch the 4 or 5 month old unit with its replacement. But nyoooooo... :banghead:

The upside is that once you do that work, the 2nd go 'round is a *lot* faster. But it was still a ginormous PITA.

Edit:

And Semco: I'm totally jelly of your MPG. :(

semcoinc 01-09-2019 02:21 PM

:bustingup

Which is why I'm reluctantly staying with my Eonon GM5150 windows unit in the E46. It has been remarkably stable after a couple of initial firmware fixes though.

But let it give me one hiccup and I'll drag another cable in there and do the Android w/iBus.

So much better to use the phone hotspot to feed the head unit and bring in the apps from there as opposed to BT streaming (in my experience). I also think the fidelity of a resident app (at least in my E53 Eonon head unit) is better than streaming to BT in the E46 windows unit. :dunno:

I think my E53 MPG sux :( considering it is mostly I35E driving. I was hoping for closer to 21 but even with an egg under my right foot I can't muster more than 19-20 in a steady interstate speed for about 16 miles.

Mike

Loperamide 01-11-2019 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151538)
Great thread Prop :thumbup:

I'm an early Android adopter with the Eonon GA6166 that had a puny 1GB RAM PX3 SoM (System on Motherboard) with Android 5.0. I upgraded this unit to a more robust 4GB RAM PX5 SoM from WITSON on Ali Express.

I highly recommend that any Android head unit buyer not consider anything less than at least 2GB RAM. With basic apps running on my original 1GB system I was near 80% utilization of RAM and app response was very anemic.

My 4GB system is very snappy with however many apps I want to run.

Also, the iBus app and USB stick hardware is a must have IMHO to preserve and improve access to the OBC and offers minor coding functionality.

I would encourage anyone thinking of the upgrade to buy as much head unit as your budget allows and even stretch a little because a subsequent upgrade could mean dragging that long FAKRA cable from the spare tire all the way to the dash all over again :wow: , which is not a pleasant exercise.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A-...=w1144-h858-no

You'll also greatly benefit from speaker upgrades with your new head unit and search will give you threads on great ideas from Xoutpost on successful speaker upgrade selections.

Mike

The Oil Temp. on my IBUS app now only shows dashes (---). It did used to show the temp until up to a few weeks ago.

Would you know why this is? Where is the Oil Temp monitored?

PropellerHead 01-11-2019 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loperamide (Post 1151818)
The Oil Temp. on my IBUS app now only shows dashes (---). It did used to show the temp until up to a few weeks ago.

Would you know why this is? Where is the Oil Temp monitored?

Mine shows dashes too. N62? I don't know that mine ever has shown the temp. I always suspected the sensor as integrated into something that the app doesn't read on the N62, but I don't know.

The best part of your pic is the right door open. Took me a min and then I saw your location. Ya'll got that steering wheel on the wrong side and such. :D I do like the little diagram of the car. Fun to watch the lights blinky when your signals are on. A silly thing to like, but there it is.

semcoinc 01-11-2019 05:13 PM

Hi Loperamide,

I am away from my Android system at the moment but I recall there is an area in the set up menu where some selections can be made on oil temp configurations.

Try finding that to see if a selection there can bring your oil temp back. :dunno:

Mike

Loperamide 01-11-2019 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151822)
Hi Loperamide,

I am away from my Android system at the moment but I recall there is an area in the set up menu where some selections can be made on oil temp configurations.

Try finding that to see if a selection there can bring your oil temp back. :dunno:

Mike

or possibly I might have a faulty "sensor" somewhere? Funny how one minute its working and the next minute its not.

mr_robot 01-11-2019 05:17 PM

For those who have the android unit with two knobs, is the right knob able to scroll through the menu in the ibus app?

semcoinc 01-11-2019 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1151821)
Mine shows dashes too. N62? I don't know that mine ever has shown the temp. I always suspected the sensor as integrated into something that the app doesn't read on the N62, but I don't know.

The best part of your pic is the right door open. Took me a min and then I saw your location. Ya'll got that steering wheel on the wrong side and such. :D I do like the little diagram of the car. Fun to watch the lights blinky when your signals are on. A silly thing to like, but there it is.

Hi Prop,

I park the E53 on the left side of my garage, so when I'm tinkering with the head unit it is usually with the right door open (passenger side in the USA and other correctly brained countries :rofl: ).

My coolant temp even with the proper thermostat runs near 228F and same for the engine oil temp, which is uncomfortably warm for this old school 180F baby boomer.

But hey, my E90 w/o oil cooler twin turbo runs near 250F on oil temp (oil cooler is hanging on the garage wall awaiting my motivation :D)

In any event, I am thrilled with the iBus app addition to my Android head unit. It is a must have, IMHO, for any Android head unit upgrade.

Mike

semcoinc 01-11-2019 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1151825)
For those who have the android unit with two knobs, is the right knob able to scroll through the menu in the ibus app?

I do not believe it will do so, however, I have not tried that.

All my menu ops have been touch screen oriented.

Mike

Loperamide 01-11-2019 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151830)
I do not believe it will do so, however, I have not tried that.

All my menu ops have been touch screen oriented.

Mike

any idea on my oil temp situation?

Also what mileage is your X on? Have u done the chain guides?

semcoinc 01-11-2019 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loperamide (Post 1151839)
any idea on my oil temp situation?

Also what mileage is your X on? Have u done the chain guides?

No idea on your oil temp situation. I recall that originally I didn't have oil temp indication and played with the oil temp menu on how the app calculated oil temp. That's all I can remember from memory without the app in front of me.

:dunno:

I am at 113K miles and no chain guides as yet.

I got the vehicle at ~78K and am very diligent about using the best synthetic oils. Previously I used AMSOIL but now use Shell Rotella T6

Mike

Loperamide 01-11-2019 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151841)
No idea on your oil temp situation. I recall that originally I didn't have oil temp indication and played with the oil temp menu on how the app calculated oil temp. That's all I can remember from memory without the app in front of me.

:dunno:

I am at 113K miles and no chain guides as yet.

I got the vehicle at ~78K and am very diligent about using the best synthetic oils. Previously I used AMSOIL but now use Shell Rotella T6

Mike

are you planning on getting the guides done any time soon? I use Mobil 1 5w30.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mobil-ESP-F...ywords=mobil+1

semcoinc 01-11-2019 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loperamide (Post 1151844)
are you planning on getting the guides done any time soon? I use Mobil 1 5w30.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mobil-ESP-F...ywords=mobil+1

Not looking forward to that project :(

However, I only drive it about 6K miles per year and physical examination of the chain burnish marks indicates minimal wear.

Since the chain guides are polymer based I believe that oil temp may play an important role in the life of this critical component. Just a hypothesis, and why I make my used car buys at the top end of about 80K miles (typically one or two owner vehicles). Many of the chain guide disasters that I have read about seem to be somewhere in the 170K miles or so zone :dunno:

Mike

Loperamide 01-11-2019 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151849)
Not looking forward to that project :(

However, I only drive it about 6K miles per year and physical examination of the chain burnish marks indicates minimal wear.

Since the chain guides are polymer based I believe that oil temp may play an important role in the life of this critical component. Just a hypothesis, and why I make my used car buys at the top end of about 80K miles (typically one or two owner vehicles). Many of the chain guide disasters that I have read about seem to be somewhere in the 170K miles or so zone :dunno:

Mike

when u say physical examination, how did u check them?

semcoinc 01-11-2019 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loperamide (Post 1151851)
when u say physical examination, how did u check them?

I opened the oil filler cap on the 4.4i engine and looked at the faces of the chains.

Mike

Loperamide 01-11-2019 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151852)
I opened the oil filler cap on the 4.4i engine and looked at the faces of the chains.

Mike

surely you should be checking the plastic guides themselves and not the chain?

did you use a special camera to look in there?

mr_robot 01-11-2019 08:03 PM

Is there any difference between Resler vs Modlight usb ibus adapters?

Overboost 01-11-2019 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1151862)
Is there any difference between Resler vs Modlight usb ibus adapters?

To the best of my knowledge, Resler makes them for everyone. Svet at ModLight has worked with Rolf for years

zonefive 01-13-2019 01:23 PM

I had no idea one could keep the car data such as range etc. I would love to get one of these but none of the stereo stores around me sells them, and I don't have the time to install myself.

Any ideas on how to find someone who can install? I am in San Diego. 2001 3.0 w/widescreen.

semcoinc 01-14-2019 04:05 PM

I just installed the latest version of the iBus App 2.1.1 and it appears to be running fine.

They have added coding for LED tail lights (not sure what that will do but I have LEDs so I activated it)

Here is the link to the iBus hardware interface

Resler IBUS Interface

The "license" to open up the features is sold separately

https://shop.ibus-app.de/en/shop/

The latest version of the App is here

http://ibus-app.de/ccount/click.php?id=download

Enjoy,

Mike

mr_robot 01-14-2019 06:55 PM

Would having the iBus interface make the modLights2 obsolete?

Overboost 01-14-2019 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1152098)
Would having the iBus interface make the modLights2 obsolete?

Yes and no. I think the head unit coding options will cover most of what the ModLight2 did but maybe not everything. I would look at the options you have in your android head unit and compare them with the ModLight2 options. I already removed my ModLight2 in anticipation of my Avin Avant 3 coming soon.

https://modbmw.com/modLight2.pdf

mr_robot 01-14-2019 07:43 PM

The Official Anybrand Android Radio setup thread.
 
I see that the iBus has mirror folding which is what I really wanted but couldn't see the depht of the type of folding options it offers on the iBus.

For example modlight2 allows me to remotely fold them only if I press the button 2x, as I don't want them to constantly open and close when I lock and unlock.

Edit:
I don't have neither just seeing what my options are before I order everything at once.

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wpoll 01-14-2019 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zonefive (Post 1152005)
I had no idea one could keep the car data such as range etc. I would love to get one of these but none of the stereo stores around me sells them, and I don't have the time to install myself.

Any ideas on how to find someone who can install? I am in San Diego. 2001 3.0 w/widescreen.

When you say you have a "2001 3.0 w/widescreen" are you meaning you have the factory stereo/NAV system? If so, you already have access to the range data etc.

Also, the iBus device being discussed here requires an Android application, which cannot be run on the factory setup.

Overboost 01-14-2019 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1152101)
I see that the iBus has mirror folding which is what I really wanted but couldn't see the depht of the type of folding options it offers on the iBus.

For example modlight2 allows me to remotely fold them only if I press the button 2x, as I don't want them to constantly open and close when I lock and unlock.


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Yeah I would prefer the long press to fold the mirrors like my E46. Seems as though the android should do that too but I wont know until I get mine setup. :dunno:

jsoto 01-18-2019 10:57 AM

Going to read past threads....I'm really loving the whole 10" screen but I do like some hard buttons like volume at the minimum.

Headunit in the E53 is only really used for Spotify BT audio, Waze audio and phone usage.
Don't even use the Navi on the headunit at all.
It's all about Waze
When it's being used in areas driven unknown, Carplay is use to see the exact street/map for visual turn by turn.

Don't think I'll do ugrade the HU but these recent post with the 10" pr0n. Size matters :dunno:

semcoinc 02-16-2019 10:48 PM

Here's the latest iBus App version running on my Eonon Android head unit

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3d...=w1196-h897-no

https://www.ibus-app.de/index_en.html

I absolutely love this app for enabling Android owners to recover the BC functionality and the mild light coding that the App offers

:thumbup: :thumbup:

Mike

Loperamide 02-16-2019 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1155345)
Here's the latest iBus App version running on my Eonon Android head unit

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3d...=w1196-h897-no

https://www.ibus-app.de/index_en.html

I absolutely love this app for enabling Android owners to recover the BC functionality and the mild light coding that the App offers

:thumbup: :thumbup:

Mike

My Oil Temp doesn't show a reading anymore, it just shows dashes ---

Any ideas?

semcoinc 02-16-2019 10:56 PM

There is a section in setting that has some selections on the method for oil temp.

I think this is what the section does :dunno: :dunno:

Have you explored that area of settings yet?

Mike

Loperamide 02-16-2019 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1155348)
There is a section in setting that has some selections on the method for oil temp.

I think this is what the section does :dunno: :dunno:

Have you explored that area of settings yet?

Mike

Yes it doesnt do much. Even when you tap the oil temp and it switches to oil level...it just says 0 :dunno:

Sphengali 02-16-2019 11:18 PM

Best Android head unit for a E53 with DSP audio?
 
I'd rather not replace all my speakers, or run new speaker wires everywhere, so looking for an Android head unit that will integrate with the DSP audio ideally.

burninator 02-20-2019 02:18 PM

Is anyone here planning to order the Avin Avant 4 when they supposedly release it on the 22nd?

Wangwolf 02-22-2019 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burninator (Post 1155675)
Is anyone here planning to order the Avin Avant 4 when they supposedly release it on the 22nd?

I still haven't received my 3 yet, I'm assuming they will ship me a 4 instead.
I've emailed multiple times but haven't gotten a response. :| hopefully the 4 will ship out soon:dunno:

Overboost 02-22-2019 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wangwolf (Post 1155840)
I still haven't received my 3 yet, I'm assuming they will ship me a 4 instead.
I've emailed multiple times but haven't gotten a response. :| hopefully the 4 will ship out soon:dunno:

They refunded everyone who had pre-ordered the Avant 3. I'm not sure why you didn't get a refund since you ordered a now obsolete Avant 3. They said the Avant 4 was to release today but I just looked on the site and nothing as of yet.

Overboost 02-22-2019 09:09 PM

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Avin Avant 4 released today. They claim shipping starts February 26th. I think I will wait a little and read some reviews before jumping down that rabbit hole again...

mr_robot 02-22-2019 09:24 PM

The Official Anybrand Android Radio setup thread.
 
Interesting... looks like they changed the buttons to be more useful.

I may return my current unit for this now lol

burninator 02-22-2019 11:28 PM

Very curious to see the response to the 4 once it starts to ship

Wangwolf 02-25-2019 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1155844)
They refunded everyone who had pre-ordered the Avant 3. I'm not sure why you didn't get a refund since you ordered a now obsolete Avant 3. They said the Avant 4 was to release today but I just looked on the site and nothing as of yet.

They finally refunded me on 2/22. I'm pulling the trigger again and ordering the Avant 4. Wish me luck!

https://avinusa.com/avant-4-for-bmw-...on-system.html

burninator 02-25-2019 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wangwolf (Post 1156032)
They finally refunded me on 2/22. I'm pulling the trigger again and ordering the Avant 4. Wish me luck!

https://avinusa.com/avant-4-for-bmw-...on-system.html

Fingers crossed!

Wangwolf 02-27-2019 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wangwolf (Post 1156032)
They finally refunded me on 2/22. I'm pulling the trigger again and ordering the Avant 4. Wish me luck!

https://avinusa.com/avant-4-for-bmw-...on-system.html

Looks like its ready to be shipped! Over/under on when it will arrive?


https://i.imgur.com/o9HcyQ6.png

mr_robot 02-27-2019 09:19 PM

Just ordered mine! They fixed my complaint about the usefulness of the buttons, the previous had all buttons that were useless unless you had all their options like TPMS and etc...well V4 fixed it so it will give it a try!

crystalworks 02-27-2019 09:20 PM

Good luck gentlemen! I await your reviews. :)

burninator 02-27-2019 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1156221)
Good luck gentlemen! I await your reviews. :)

I am very excited about this. My 4.6 has an ancient aftermarket headunit and it drives me crazy because of how dated and cheap looking is.

Attacking Mid 03-01-2019 11:30 AM

I guess I need to buy one of these Android units, as I can get NO sound out of my OE system (factory NAV, no DSP). All the choices are somewhat overwhelming, but I'm curious what makes you guys excited about this Avin unit vs. (for example), this unit from XTRONS that I'm considering: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...5Z5MU6OM&psc=1

Is the appeal mainly that it's an OE-appearing unit with the latest/greatest specs?

Also, when a long cable is needed to go to the connections in the back, are you guys buying those or just splicing/extending the cables that come with the unit? Seems like they charge a lot for the extra wire.

Thanks,

AM.

mr_robot 03-01-2019 12:54 PM

The Official Anybrand Android Radio setup thread.
 
Yes for me it's mainly the aesthetics of OEM looking as possible.

Not to mention the boot screen logo and splash screen is like the newer BMW Connected Drive like this:

https://youtu.be/tW6AdD06O6s

All other Android units you can change the boot logo but cannot change the 1st splash screen without a custom rom anr image.

As for the wire I bought one from China for $20.

That cost would of been about the same me purchasing the wires and extending it myself plus the cost of the friction tape.

semcoinc 03-01-2019 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Attacking Mid (Post 1156329)
I guess I need to buy one of these Android units, as I can get NO sound out of my OE system (factory NAV, no DSP). All the choices are somewhat overwhelming, but I'm curious what makes you guys excited about this Avin unit vs. (for example), this unit from XTRONS that I'm considering: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...5Z5MU6OM&psc=1

Is the appeal mainly that it's an OE-appearing unit with the latest/greatest specs?

Also, when a long cable is needed to go to the connections in the back, are you guys buying those or just splicing/extending the cables that come with the unit? Seems like they charge a lot for the extra wire.

Thanks,

AM.

Many times the head unit supplier supplies the long "Fakra" cable for rear connection in with their offering for free.

Rear connections vary so getting the cable from the head unit supplier would be the best, IMHO.

Also, I suggest a 4GB RAM processor. 2GB can get the job done but just like HP, too much RAM is just enough. :D

Mike

mr_robot 03-01-2019 07:06 PM

Got shipping notification from Avin and thought it was stock in stock in CA but tracking is from DHL coming from China.

Wangwolf 03-03-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wangwolf (Post 1156202)
Looks like its ready to be shipped! Over/under on when it will arrive?


https://i.imgur.com/o9HcyQ6.png

Good news, the unit came on Friday (basically 2 day shipping) which is crazy fast from Hong Kong.

Bad news, one button is flipped upside down and can't be turned.
EDIT: the button can be flipped from the front -derp me-

Avin software seems to not have been installed correctly. I just get stock android and the Avin software is just a warning sign.:rolleyes:
EDIT: I need to install the app first -derp me x2-

Currently pretty dissatisfied, but still remaining hopeful that it will come together. Lets hope Avin will provide some support.
EDIT: Avin has great support and responded pretty quick
https://i.imgur.com/FYNbLmS.jpg?1

mr_robot 03-03-2019 06:33 PM

Wow are you serious? That's some shitty QC issue.

Looks like the ROM was not installed correctly therefore getting the <!>

Wangwolf 03-03-2019 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1156504)
Wow are you serious? That's some shitty QC issue.

Looks like the ROM was not installed correctly therefore getting the <!>

Okay, I'm an idiot. the last button is a removable cover for the SD car slot so that can be flipped around.

Avin is actually able to respond to my support request. (very quick) so kudos to them.

mr_robot 03-03-2019 06:36 PM

Ok good to hear, mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow.

Wangwolf 03-03-2019 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1156506)
Ok good to hear, mine is supposed to arrive tomorrow.

Their support was actually pretty fast and very helpful. I'm surprised they work on the weekends but they said that's when customers need the most help (makes sense).

I'm wrong for being so hasty to post about my woes. Theres a support page that they directed me towards. You need to login with the email you used to purchase the unit. But this support page has a lot of resources on how to set up the unit.

The unit does not come with some features installed, so you need to go to the webpage and install the apps yourself.

mr_robot 03-03-2019 07:18 PM

Yes they have been pretty fast with their responses. So far happy with their CS pre-purchase.

What apps aren't installed?

Wangwolf 03-04-2019 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1156510)
Yes they have been pretty fast with their responses. So far happy with their CS pre-purchase.

What apps aren't installed?

Most of them. They said they don't want to bloat the unit with apps users may not be using.


I installed iBus, CarPlay, Dual DVR, TPMS.

Torque was preinstalled (used for wireless OBD2 scanner).

CarPlay and iBus are working now.

Dual DVR doesn't seem to be working yet (still need to play around).
The back up camera comes up FAST. Within a second of getting 12V signal for reverse, even if the unit just started up. Which is a relief.
TPMS - haven't tried.

Some of the buttons on the unit seem useless (Avin button, CAM button).
Wondering if its possible to reprogram them to different apps.

mr_robot 03-04-2019 01:25 PM

Does the boot up logonhave both the BMW and the Connected Drive splash screen?

Wangwolf 03-04-2019 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1156564)
Does the boot up logonhave both the BMW and the Connected Drive splash screen?

It does not but you can change the startup splash screen I believe.
Currently mine just shows the generic android boot up but customer service said you can change it.

burninator 03-04-2019 04:43 PM

What are your initial impressions now that you have it installed?

mr_robot 03-04-2019 08:58 PM

Ok, you were right that it just has the stock android app and no skin or custom rom like the AVIN3 so kinda disappointed as looks like they spent no time/effort on the user interface for the premium they charge over other Android HU.

Mine came with DVR, TPMS, Torque and other apps installed just no iBus but can be easily downloaded so no big deal.

The quality definitely feels better than the other android HU I had, buttons feels soft like OEM.

Wangwolf 03-04-2019 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burninator (Post 1156591)
What are your initial impressions now that you have it installed?

Coming from stock and haven't had any other HU. So its a big leap in improvement for me.

Sound is good (but I'm not an audiophile).
CarPlay is an awesome feature (seems like any android unit can have this though)
iBus connectivity is great (again any android unit)
Reverse camera startup is fast
Form factor fits in single DIN slot, I only had to notch certain spots to get the brackets to fit. I could always restore the stock single DIN HU/OBC and CD player if I wanted
Cabling is great, didn't have to modify any harnesses
Customer Support is Fantastic quick to respond and very knowledgeable

Edit:
Steering wheel buttons also work.
Startup speed is okay
Orange Backlight seems to match with rest of interior lights well
Shipping was lightning fast. Preordered before release of Feb 26. Tracking started on Feb 27. DHL picked up the package (from Hong Kong) Feb 28. Arrived on my door (in California) on Mar. 1

Downsides:
Some of the buttons don't do anything? Hopefully I can figure out how to change them to different apps

mr_robot 03-04-2019 10:14 PM

The only button that doesn't do anything for me is the APS and the one with 3 dashes in it.

No idea what APS even stands for. The 3 dash seems like "menu" button inside certain apps but it is not doing anything.

Overboost 03-05-2019 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wangwolf (Post 1156627)
Form factor fits in single DIN slot, I only had to notch certain spots to get the brackets to fit. I could always restore the stock single DIN HU/OBC and CD player if I wanted

This is the best news yet for me regarding the ///AVIN Avant-4. I always worried that I would not like the Android and would never be able to return to stock because of the dash modification. Thanks for the heads up! :thumbup:

matey 03-06-2019 04:03 AM

hi every thanks for making this thread just got my head unit and even though the plug is the same 40 pin the auto elec says its not wired the same so dont know if it the system or the previous owner had it wired up for the previous head unit looking forward to reading your replys on this subject

wpoll 03-06-2019 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matey (Post 1156752)
hi every thanks for making this thread just got my head unit and even though the plug is the same 40 pin the auto elec says its not wired the same so dont know if it the system or the previous owner had it wired up for the previous head unit looking forward to reading your replys on this subject

Gidday matey. :D

Need a bit more info before we can help much - year/engine of car and model of head unit. And what old head unit was in there?

:thumbup:

matey 03-06-2019 05:12 AM

thanks its in the hands of the local auto electrician hope fully will hear back from him tomorrow cheers :thumbup:

matey 03-07-2019 03:27 AM

Got back few small problems it dosn automatically show the reverse camera when in reverse you have to search it also the mirroring with iPhone dosnt seem to work or the ob2 dosnt recognise the plug and advise would be appreciated
Thanks

mr_robot 03-07-2019 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matey (Post 1156849)
Got back few small problems it dosn automatically show the reverse camera when in reverse you have to search it also the mirroring with iPhone dosnt seem to work or the ob2 dosnt recognise the plug and advise would be appreciated

Thanks



The reverse trigger wire must be incorrect.

iPhone mirroring is only via hotspot (WiFi) from your phone.

If by OBD2 you mean the Bluetooth plug and Torque app, you must select/configure the OBD2 dongle within the Torque app settings.

burninator 03-07-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wangwolf (Post 1156627)
Coming from stock and haven't had any other HU. So its a big leap in improvement for me.

Sound is good (but I'm not an audiophile).
CarPlay is an awesome feature (seems like any android unit can have this though)
iBus connectivity is great (again any android unit)
Reverse camera startup is fast
Form factor fits in single DIN slot, I only had to notch certain spots to get the brackets to fit. I could always restore the stock single DIN HU/OBC and CD player if I wanted
Cabling is great, didn't have to modify any harnesses
Customer Support is Fantastic quick to respond and very knowledgeable

Edit:
Steering wheel buttons also work.
Startup speed is okay
Orange Backlight seems to match with rest of interior lights well
Shipping was lightning fast. Preordered before release of Feb 26. Tracking started on Feb 27. DHL picked up the package (from Hong Kong) Feb 28. Arrived on my door (in California) on Mar. 1

Downsides:
Some of the buttons don't do anything? Hopefully I can figure out how to change them to different apps

This sounds promising. How is the fitment? Do you have any pics you could upload?

crystalworks 03-07-2019 03:14 PM

Perhaps you should start an Avin Avant 4 thread Wangwolf? I think this thread was (though it is morphing it seems) intended to be specific to how you are using Android radio widgets/apps/etc for daily use. Would make Avant 4 specific data much more easy to find.

At any rate, excited to see how you get on with it.

mr_robot 03-07-2019 03:57 PM

Well avin 4 just has stock Android 8.0 and no special app or rom so it's exactly the same as the cheaper Android unit I replaced it with.

crystalworks 03-07-2019 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1156878)
Well avin 4 just has stock Android 8.0 and no special app or rom so it's exactly the same as the cheaper Android unit I replaced it with.

No I didn't mean it was any different flavor of Android... just that I think Prop's intent of the thread was to share settings and customizations using Android. I went back and re-read the OP before realizing that. The thread has become more about installation/fitment/etc which is fine. Just not what was originally intended. Just a thought, not a big deal or anything.

matey 03-08-2019 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1156853)
The reverse trigger wire must be incorrect.

iPhone mirroring is only via hotspot (WiFi) from your phone.

If by OBD2 you mean the Bluetooth plug and Torque app, you must select/configure the OBD2 dongle within the Torque app settings.

Thanks got the mirror thing sorted I ordered a more expensive dongle for torque maybe that will sort it the reverse I put the app icon on the home page so it a easy to use
Any ideas on interesting apps to down load thanks again :D

Wangwolf 03-08-2019 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1156875)
Perhaps you should start an Avin Avant 4 thread Wangwolf? I think this thread was (though it is morphing it seems) intended to be specific to how you are using Android radio widgets/apps/etc for daily use. Would make Avant 4 specific data much more easy to find.

At any rate, excited to see how you get on with it.

I'm planning on it! I've taken some videos of my progress so far. I'm about halfway done, I'm doing a lot on this project (back up camera, TPMS, front dash cam, Valentine1 Hardwire) so progress is slow.
Hopefully I can finish it up this weekend before the Missus comes back from her business trip!
But then it will take me a while to edit and upload the video

Wangwolf 03-10-2019 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wangwolf (Post 1156973)
I'm planning on it! I've taken some videos of my progress so far. I'm about halfway done, I'm doing a lot on this project (back up camera, TPMS, front dash cam, Valentine1 Hardwire) so progress is slow.
Hopefully I can finish it up this weekend before the Missus comes back from her business trip!
But then it will take me a while to edit and upload the video

Today I finished getting the backup camera routed and wired! Had to pull some trims and drop the glove box but got it routed cleanly
It's looking good, it points a tiny bit high (I didn't realize my camera kit came with angle spacers but it's good enough for me)
https://i.imgur.com/X1Ayrl1.jpg

Having some headaches with TPMS and dual DVR but hopefully Avin will continue their support

yes_its_neil 03-11-2019 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matey (Post 1156927)
Thanks got the mirror thing sorted I ordered a more expensive dongle for torque maybe that will sort it the reverse I put the app icon on the home page so it a easy to use
Any ideas on interesting apps to down load thanks again :D


This is the bluetooth adapter a couple of us have used with Torque. No guarantees the same device is under an identical cover though.

https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...orque-pro.html

mr_robot 03-16-2019 08:07 PM

Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity level on the steering wheel buttons?

Mine seems to triple click. For example when I press the volume up/down it increases/decreases by 3 levels.

Same for switching tracks, it skips 2-3 tracks.

Crowz 03-17-2019 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1157645)
Is there a way to adjust the sensitivity level on the steering wheel buttons?

Mine seems to triple click. For example when I press the volume up/down it increases/decreases by 3 levels.

Same for switching tracks, it skips 2-3 tracks.

Not in any of the radios I have.

I also haven't had one do that either.

mr_robot 03-17-2019 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1157666)
Not in any of the radios I have.

I also haven't had one do that either.

I figured it out.

The AVIN or most Android units come with CANBUS that allows you to retain Steering wheel functions but so does the iBUS. iBUS allows you to retain as well so I had the option selected on the iBUS app so it was it was probably overlapping double inputting my button inputs as I pressed them. So I turned off the steering wheel controls on the iBUS app and everything works as it should allowing only the CANBUS box do the work instead.

Aside from that I discovered something new and the more I play with it the more I'm loving this iBUS app.

In the settings you can select to display track/song info in the cluster, I mean the stock navi was able to display the RADIO stations but with the iBUS if I'm streaming music on my phone via Bluetooth I can skip tracks with my Steering wheel buttons and it will now display the Artist and Song on the cluster! Mind blown lol

Another insight was (I'm no audiophile in any means) but the DSP and Androids built in EQ wasn't playing too well together. The sound would get distorreted easily and actually sounded worse than stock DSP. So I decided to leave the Android EQ under "Custom" or almost no settings if that makes sense and just use the iBUS DSP settings to adjust bass/treble/room/echo and now it sounds good again.

PropellerHead 03-18-2019 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1157762)
Aside from that I discovered something new and the more I play with it the more I'm loving this iBUS app.

I love the MID message at startup. Mine says, "Hey, Prop! Let's Ride!" :rofl: It's so silly, but I just can't get around liking that as much as I do. :D

And thanks for the note ab the volume. I think this happened to me and I do not know that I ever found a fix. It's been long enough now that I will have to look to see if it still does it. If it does, I will take your fix and apply it. THANKS!

mr_robot 03-18-2019 09:05 AM

I just put tacky "BMW Motorsports" on mine

PropellerHead 03-18-2019 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1157792)
I just put tacky "BMW Motorsports" on mine

:rofl: :thumbup: Love it!

Crowz 03-18-2019 11:00 AM

I have mine set to show the wife's name and then X5 after it. She likes it and says it makes it feel personalized :)

crystalworks 03-18-2019 01:30 PM

That feature is motivation enough for me to get this installed in the truck. Been sitting on a shelf forever. Small details make things feel special.

mr_robot 03-18-2019 09:16 PM

Does anyone have experience with MTCDTools apk?

I'm trying to reprogram the physical buttons on the unit itself so Bluetooth button brings up the BT streaming app instead of the Dialer and just want to assign another button to go back to iBUS app directly.

Crowz 03-19-2019 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1157864)
Does anyone have experience with MTCDTools apk?

I'm trying to reprogram the physical buttons on the unit itself so Bluetooth button brings up the BT streaming app instead of the Dialer and just want to assign another button to go back to iBUS app directly.

Be careful with that one as it can conflict with different bios setup on different android units. Some have had some nasty problems using it on other platforms.

Its used allot but it can cause some wacky issues on some radios.

mr_robot 03-19-2019 07:09 AM

I think I figured it out. I wasn't selecting the app I wanted to launch. Didn't know where the app list was but you just have to tap the icon (green box) with the Android logo and shows you the list of all your stock and installed apps.

Going to reprogram the button with the three dashes for iBUS app and the BT for launching A2DP.

mr_robot 03-19-2019 08:42 PM

I highly recommend MTCDTools app. I successfully changed two physical buttons and now I have a dedicated button for iBUS and Bluetooth A2DP streaming. I could even program my swc to launch apps but I'll leave them alone for now.

I'll be changing some others as well, especially the MODE button to cycle through downloaded apps vs just the native apps that I will never use.

It also has auto launch option. Since iBUS starts automatically already, I will have the radio app to launch as well so it will be just like stock. Very happy and excited lol

Crowz 03-19-2019 10:44 PM

Its a crap shoot if it will work on different android models. Been there done that. Some have had some nasty conflicts back in the day. The older eonons did not care for it.

mr_robot 03-20-2019 06:18 AM

There has been many revisions since and so far with version 1.9 it's pretty good.

https://github.com/f1xpl/MtcdTools/releases

cslee 03-22-2019 04:48 PM

Does these HU support android auto ?

cslee 03-22-2019 04:55 PM

Did anyone tried the Xtrons? I prefer the screen angle on the Xtron. The stock screen angle is horrible in day time.

https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Androi...y&sr=8-1-fkmr1

PropellerHead 03-22-2019 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslee (Post 1158198)
Did anyone tried the Xtrons? I prefer the screen angle on the Xtron. The stock screen angle is horrible in day time.

https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Androi...y&sr=8-1-fkmr1

That's the unit I have. There will always be glare. It was annoying at first but after a year, I don't think ab it anymore.

mr_robot 03-22-2019 08:27 PM

Downloaded Car Launcher Pro, it's a customizable launcher and one of the skins looks a lot like BMW NBT UI and I placed the iBUS widget at the bottom so I can see outside temp, coolant temp, range and Voltage at a glance all on the home screen!

Adding carplay and a aux port to where the cigarette lighter is next and final mod for now.

crystalworks 03-22-2019 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1158210)
Downloaded Car Launcher Pro, it's a customizable launcher and one of the skins looks a lot like BMW NBT UI and I placed the iBUS widget at the bottom so I can see outside temp, coolant temp, range and Voltage at a glance all on the home screen!

Adding carplay and a aux port to where the cigarette lighter is next and final mod for now.

PICTURES!!!!!!!!!! :D ;)

mr_robot 03-23-2019 12:15 PM

Here's a screenshot shot of my home screen. The toolbar at top autohides.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...95e1bfb8d0.jpg

crystalworks 03-24-2019 12:29 PM

^Thank you Mr R. I like that A LOT. Might go with that same UI over the stock one mine is running.

mr_robot 03-24-2019 08:56 PM

Yeah it's really neat. You can rename the apps on the home screen so I changed i-BUS to Board Computer and A2DP to BT streaming haha.

You can take it a step further and download icon packs and change the app icon image as well.

mr_robot 03-27-2019 05:32 PM

Ok everything was working great until it's not now.

Nothing major but it stopped launching automatically on start up.

So I have to open iBUS manually. So no sound until then.

But the truly annoying part is every single time the unit starts up. Regardless of cold boot or within seconds of toggling my ignition.

Crowz 03-27-2019 06:14 PM

I ran into that on an eonon unit I have in my 323i. After ditching eonons stuff and doing the custom rom with all the toys I learned its a balancing game to get it all to work together correctly.

My experiences with it caused me to be very careful about customizing all the later units anymore than necessary.

PropellerHead 03-27-2019 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1158568)
Ok everything was working great until it's not now.

Nothing major but it stopped launching automatically on start up.

So I have to open iBUS manually. So no sound until then.

But the truly annoying part is every single time the unit starts up. Regardless of cold boot or within seconds of toggling my ignition.

Android 8.x should have a setting for Sleep. Set it to 'Auto' and the radio won't power all the way down. It does draw power tho, so I turn it down to the shortest time when headed to mechanic or otherwise.

mr_robot 03-27-2019 08:56 PM

Yeah I played with that as others on the iBUS Facebook group suggested and still no go.

I had it on Autosleep which only fully powered it down after a long time. Even after 9 hours it would still start up instantly.

So afraid of battery drain I changed it to 30 min but since experiencing this problem I switched it back to autosleep and yet still, iBUS doesn't autostart.

Crowz 03-27-2019 09:17 PM

Well if you have hosed it bad enough you can always restore it to factory and go again.

mr_robot 03-27-2019 09:41 PM

Yea that will be my last resort, I spent hours setting it up exactly how I like it just didn't want to lose it all especially if still doesn't work after.

For now it's just opening it by tapping the icon so not the end of the world.

Wangwolf 03-28-2019 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1158574)
Yeah I played with that as others on the iBUS Facebook group suggested and still no go.

I had it on Autosleep which only fully powered it down after a long time. Even after 9 hours it would still start up instantly.

So afraid of battery drain I changed it to 30 min but since experiencing this problem I switched it back to autosleep and yet still, iBUS doesn't autostart.

That link you sent with about power the headunit up with HVAC to start on consumer shutdown with iBus seems promising. I'll have to try it when I get a free weekend

I wonder if that would trigger the app to open?

https://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e3...-15.html?amp=1

mr_robot 03-28-2019 05:44 PM

That's what it's doing. By consumer shutdown the radio gets temporary ignition power which it turns the ibus USB interface.

mr_robot 03-31-2019 12:18 PM

How are you guys setting up the ACC shutdown option?

Leaving it on Autosleep or a set timer?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

PropellerHead 03-31-2019 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1158772)
How are you guys setting up the ACC shutdown option?

Leaving it on Autosleep or a set timer?

Mine is set to autosleep bc there's no timer for 12-24+ hours. :( My requirements might be different working from home and not driving as much, but I would love to have the option of 12 through 24 hours for a shutdown.

When I leave town for longer than a few days or if it goes into the shop I change it to the shortest time.

mr_robot 03-31-2019 05:53 PM

Yea sorry, there's no timer only 5, 30 min or something to max of 1hr or just autosleep.

Anyone know how much power it pulls during sleep mode?

PropellerHead 03-31-2019 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1158786)
Anyone know how much power it pulls during sleep mode?

The folks at iBus told me it was 8.5mA.

Overboost 04-15-2019 09:56 PM

BMW DIY Guy posted his Avin Avant-4 install. Not much substance but here's the link anyway...

BMW DIY Guy Avin Avant-4 Install

Crowz 04-16-2019 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1160031)
BMW DIY Guy posted his Avin Avant-4 install. Not much substance but here's the link anyway...

BMW E53 X5 AvinUSA Avant-4 install DIY

Link doesn't work.

Crowz 04-16-2019 12:57 AM

I have mine set for 30 minutes or an hour. If I don't get back in faster than that its not going to kill me for it to take a bit longer to boot up.

Overboost 04-16-2019 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1160042)
Link doesn't work.

Thanks for the heads-up. I fixed the link :thumbup:

mr_robot 04-16-2019 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowz (Post 1160043)
I have mine set for 30 minutes or an hour. If I don't get back in faster than that its not going to kill me for it to take a bit longer to boot up.



I have the mirrors to fold and unfold automatically so the delay of the cold boot felt forever lol.

I set it back to autosleep.

PropellerHead 04-18-2019 01:18 AM

Has anyone used 'Coming Home' settings? Is this just a custom program for the lights when arming/disarming? :dunno:

mr_robot 04-18-2019 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1160267)
Has anyone used 'Coming Home' settings? Is this just a custom program for the lights when arming/disarming? :dunno:



Did wire up for consumer shutdown? Won't work without it.

PropellerHead 04-19-2019 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_robot (Post 1160270)
Did wire up for consumer shutdown? Won't work without it.

I didn't. I saw instructions, but I don't understand *why* I'd want it to work? Whuts it dew? :dunno:

PropellerHead 04-19-2019 12:30 AM

In other questions.. The 'light show buttons'? 1-6? Where are these buttons? :confused:

Oh, HOLY BALLS! Does this mean buttons 1-6 on the *radio* like the ones that look like ths stock unit? Cause *my* radio doesn't *HAVE* these mystical buttons and this whole button mess is just confusing!

Or is it something else and my thick head didn't just get a little thinner?:nanana:

Hellgomes 04-21-2019 07:01 PM

Hello there,
I'm searching yet for the new radio and have some questions;
I have a 2004 3.0da sport version with a stock subwoofer, and has I see the CROWZ shows the cable to the trunk, is still need to pass this cable in new radios??
I see same radio in aliexpress or Amazon, but different brands.. and needing to buy in Europe to avoid extra taxes it limits to strange brands like Erisin ES7802B. Should be ok??
And need to buy Ibus and obd adapters too, like Ebay, am I right??
Thank you guys

Crowz 04-21-2019 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellgomes (Post 1160573)
Hello there,
I'm searching yet for the new radio and have some questions;
I have a 2004 3.0da sport version with a stock subwoofer, and has I see the CROWZ shows the cable to the trunk, is still need to pass this cable in new radios??
I see same radio in aliexpress or Amazon, but different brands.. and needing to buy in Europe to avoid extra taxes it limits to strange brands like Erisin ES7802B. Should be ok??
And need to buy Ibus and obd adapters too, like Ebay, am I right??
Thank you guys

The ibus adapter I would get from the guy that makes them. The links on my site.

As for having to run the cable to the back it depends on if you have factory nav or not. Factory nav requires the cable to be run to the back.

Hellgomes 04-22-2019 01:12 AM

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Haha, it looks a while to find Nav system in the radio, but yes, it have factory Nav.
obd2, once I will start the changes, is better to get too??
Do you have it? Wich one???

Crowz 04-22-2019 09:11 AM

Yep you will have to run the cable to the back.

mr_robot 04-22-2019 05:46 PM

I ran mine from down the glove box down to the pass door sills then to the trunk. Very easy but can be frustrating.

Hellgomes 04-24-2019 04:49 PM

Ok,
sorry the question, but the cable is need for what?? I read is for the radio module, but what will missing if we not pass this cable??

mr_robot 04-24-2019 05:35 PM

The actual radio is in the trunk that's why. The connector behind the screen is just for the screen and controls it has no speaker/amp wires on it.

Overboost 05-08-2019 07:03 PM

Does anyone know how the Avin Avant-4 autosleep works in the settings/car/extra settings menu? I have mine set to auto sleep and the last 2 mornings I came out and the system was still in stand by mode and came up within seconds. (Nice but worried about battery draw)

I set it to 10 minutes and checked it and that worked as advertised, it did a full boot. What constitutes an autosleep function?

PropellerHead 05-08-2019 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1161824)
I set it to 10 minutes and checked it and that worked as advertised, it did a full boot. What constitutes an autosleep function?

I think it either sleeps- which is how it's now set for 10 mins before it turns off, or the radio turns off completely. Like most of these, the function is the same across Android platforms.

FWIW, I have never had a battery drain issue with mine. I do change the settings when I take it for service or leave for more than a few days.

Overboost 05-08-2019 08:55 PM

Thanks PH. So you are saying in autosleep mode is is always in standby? Does yours completely boot from off in the morning or come up in a second or 2?

Hellgomes 05-09-2019 07:50 AM

Hello, I am about to buy the eonon GA9166A directly in the site for 331euros. 4gb and octracore. With trunk cable included.
Now, should I buy the obd2 adapter toghether ???

PropellerHead 05-09-2019 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1161833)
Thanks PH. So you are saying in autosleep mode is is always in standby? Does yours completely boot from off in the morning or come up in a second or 2?

I have mine set to 'AutoSleep' which basically means, "Wake up as soon as you see ignition." So it's fast every time.

The full boot was annoying to me. I did ask the folks at iBusApp.de about this. They said the draw is really low and provided an actual draw. I just don't recall what it is. I added it here in a thread somewhere.

PropellerHead 05-09-2019 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellgomes (Post 1161853)
Now, should I buy the obd2 adapter toghether ???

Strictly your personal choice.

In my experience, the support you get with one peripheral for one of these radios is about the same as you get with the radio itself. Support exists, but is largely irrelevant. With the exception of pre-sold support and convenience from the higher cost, US Based brands, you're basically on your own for technical issues.

Overboost 05-09-2019 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1161857)
I have mine set to 'AutoSleep' which basically means, "Wake up as soon as you see ignition." So it's fast every time.

The full boot was annoying to me. I did ask the folks at iBusApp.de about this. They said the draw is really low and provided an actual draw. I just don't recall what it is. I added it here in a thread somewhere.

I thought I read 8mA on the sleep mode. All the complaints I read about the boot time had me misunderstanding how the system operated. I was under the impression that the system always turned completely off after a couple of hours. I guess it's fine, I am still learning about the system. Thanks for the clarification. :thumbup:

PropellerHead 05-09-2019 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1161859)
I thought I read 8mA on the sleep mode.

Yup. I looked it up. That's what he wrote me last year: 8.5mA. :thumbup:

Overboost 05-12-2019 12:52 PM

So a question for everyone that is running an Android HU. I have already become bored with my factory Avin Avant-4 launcher. It is not flexible, not configurable and honestly a little dated. I want to customize my UI to something a little more current and have found 3 launchers that seem to be popular.

Standard Avin Avant-4 launcher

https://avinusa.com/media/catalog/pr...t9_medium_.jpg

Car Launcher Pro

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fC...5X-h7FAAIOMl4q

Car Launcher Agama

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/8F...DX79aLFiz=w800

Carwebgurus

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Iy...LImEpsV_A=h500

Which launchers are you using if any other than the one that came with your Android. Pictures of your customized launcher would be appreciated.

I know developers are building these and one that I would really like to see would be a clone of the latest BMW iDrive 10.25" units.

BMW iDrive

http://support.mycarly.com/wp-conten...03-600x231.jpg

Lowblock 05-12-2019 11:00 PM

I tried reading through the entire thread but I didn't see anywhere where anyone mentioned the use of Ipod/iPhone for music. I see that you can hook an ipod up to the avant4 but have seen posts saying that you don't get any sort of playlist options and that you can only skip tracks. All my music is on apple products and I would really like to be able to use playlists. I know that the D* HU will display playlists, and also has a sirius tuner input, can anyone comment on that?

Overboost 06-12-2019 05:57 PM

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If any of our members are running aftermarket Android system with the iBus adapter and app, a quick tip I learned today was the ability in the iBus app to remove the non-working oil temp value (M54 3.0L) on my iBus app OBC screen by simply press and hold on the value and an add or remove icon appears at the bottom of the screen. Drag it off to the trash can. I also rearranged all the values on my OBC screen to my preferences (left is mileage, consumptions, averages, and right side is dynamic engine values). Just press and hold the values then drag them where you want. I am using iBus app V2.1.3. :thumbup:

tmat1977 06-12-2019 06:43 PM

anybody install head unit with DSP i am waiting on the interface to come in so i can install

business cd with mid unit i am guesing i have to dremel the factory stereo bracket to get any double din head unit to slide in (mine is eonon 9166a)

wpoll 06-12-2019 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tmat1977 (Post 1164114)
anybody install head unit with DSP i am waiting on the interface to come in so i can install

business cd with mid unit i am guesing i have to dremel the factory stereo bracket to get any double din head unit to slide in (mine is eonon 9166a)

Just FYI, the Eonon is not a double-DIN - it's much bigger than a double-DIN. It IS customised to fit your dash cavity perfectly though... :thumbup:

And yes, you'll have to remove a few sections of the existing plastic frame that supported the old Business/Professional CD Player unit (the unit that sat above the MID).

Hellgomes 06-13-2019 08:36 AM

I have the GA9166A installed in a dsp system.... some troubles remaining.
I am waiting for the ibus to get good sound, now I have all " front speakers" subwoofer disconect fiscally because is assuming as a speaker.
As i read ibus will correct it.
I think the rest is ok

semcoinc 06-16-2019 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1164108)
If any of our members are running aftermarket Android system with the iBus adapter and app, a quick tip I learned today was the ability in the iBus app to remove the non-working oil temp value (M54 3.0L) on my iBus app OBC screen by simply press and hold on the value and an add or remove icon appears at the bottom of the screen. Drag it off to the trash can. I also rearranged all the values on my OBC screen to my preferences (left is mileage, consumptions, averages, and right side is dynamic engine values). Just press and hold the values then drag them where you want. I am using iBus app V2.1.3. :thumbup:

Great tip on dragging the values OB :thumbup:

Mike

tmat1977 06-16-2019 09:25 PM

anybody know if the Eonon Dsp amp is plug in play wth the factory dsp amp from bmw HK??? Remove my factory dsp amp and replace with Eonon?

tmat1977 06-16-2019 09:30 PM

what harness did you use with the dsp amp I have 3 that came with mine the 5m ext harness i dont need ... i have one that fits but i am not sure what wires to splice into when i IBUS interface comes in? The 5m ext harness is easy to figure out the harness that plugs into the mid unit cut and splice in the harness only three wires that are there from eonon on that harness

wpoll 06-16-2019 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tmat1977 (Post 1164307)
anybody know if the Eonon Dsp amp is plug in play wth the factory dsp amp from bmw HK??? Remove my factory dsp amp and replace with Eonon?

If you are talking about the Eonon V0057 DSP amp, I doubt it - it appears to be a DSP amp that inserts "in-line" with non-DSP equipped systems. :dunno:

tmat1977 06-16-2019 09:44 PM

Basically theres nothing to replace are factory Hk dsp amp to get more boost i want to upgrade my doors speakers and i am afraid the factory amp wont handle it the JL audio one i want mid level componet set

wpoll 06-16-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tmat1977 (Post 1164308)
what harness did you use with the dsp amp I have 3 that came with mine the 5m ext harness i dont need ... i have one that fits but i am not sure what wires to splice into when i IBUS interface comes in? The 5m ext harness is easy to figure out the harness that plugs into the mid unit cut and splice in the harness only three wires that are there from eonon on that harness

You don't splice into the Eonon loom - the iBus adapter connects to the Eonon via a USB port on the back of the H/U. You wire the three flying leads on the iBus adapter to the old MID unit (Power, Gnd and Data) and simply plug it in. :thumbup:

wpoll 06-16-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tmat1977 (Post 1164310)
Basically theres nothing to replace are factory Hk dsp amp to get more boost i want to upgrade my doors speakers and i am afraid the factory amp wont handle it the JL audio one i want mid level componet set

Possibly not but there's nothing to say you cannot remove the entire factory DSP system and install your own system from the ground up - H/U, amps speakers - heck, even speaker cables if you want... big job though! ;)

tmat1977 06-16-2019 09:51 PM

i was trying avoid rewiring the whole damn car.. I all guess i ll wait for bavsound amp to come out they said later this year they will have one out

crystalworks 06-17-2019 12:40 AM

Rewiring the whole car is not entirely necessary (factory cabling can be utilized, but will need to be spliced into). I am in the middle of a full DSP replacement myself. The problem you run into is needing A LOT of channels of amplification. I am up to 14 channels... on 3 amps. :wow: :yikes:

tmat1977 06-21-2019 08:08 AM

Anybody know where to get this harness in the this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ldr_9-HUE

i have already ordered the ibus interface and app and lic my extention harness is not needed as i dont have that shit in the trunk

i need the short version of the 5.5ext harnes

Thank you
i have a eonon unit and eonon said that dont have it ..fucking retards

Overboost 06-21-2019 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tmat1977 (Post 1164633)
Anybody know where to get this harness in the this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ldr_9-HUE

i have already ordered the ibus interface and app and lic my extention harness is not needed as i dont have that shit in the trunk

i need the short version of the 5.5ext harnes

Thank you
i have a eonon unit and eonon said that dont have it ..fucking retards

That harness in the video seems like a AVIN harness by the looks of the headunit connections. I am not sure what your Eonon harness looks like, maybe provide a picture. You will need a specific harness to connect to your Eonon headunit so if Eonon doesn't have it then you will need to wire your iBus adapter a different way than the video you provided.

tmat1977 06-27-2019 08:02 PM

so my ibus interface came in i plugged into usb and the flying leads i spliced into eonon harness as per video

downloaded the i buss app and no sound ....i tryied unlocking it and says can not commucate

I m Stuck and what to do.. i am prolly missing something totally simple

wpoll 06-27-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tmat1977 (Post 1164980)
so my ibus interface came in i plugged into usb and the flying leads i spliced into eonon harness as per video

downloaded the i buss app and no sound ....i tryied unlocking it and says can not commucate

I m Stuck and what to do.. i am prolly missing something totally simple

You need internet connectivity for the registration to work - use your smartphone hotspot or park close to a wi-fi location.

Then once the app is registered and running, check that it can communicate correctly with the iBus on the car before trying any sound stuff. Check the OBC functions first. This isn't magic - a number of steps have to be completed before this is gonna work.. ;)

tmat1977 06-27-2019 09:18 PM

what steps do i take i tried everything i think.

previous post some said flying leads go into the factory harness not the eonon harness but i have non of the colors asssociated with that on the factory harness..

wpoll 06-27-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tmat1977 (Post 1164983)
what steps do i take i tried everything i think.

previous post some said flying leads go into the factory harness not the eonon harness but i have non of the colors asssociated with that on the factory harness..

I should let someone who has actually done this answer your question but but what the heck...

Firstly, lets confirm you have wired the iBus adapter correctly. If not, it won't work - or can be destroyed.

On the iBus adapter, you'll have four wires but you only need to hook up three.

Red - +12v (connects to green wire on the BMW harness)
Brown - Ground (connects to black wire on the BMW harness)
White - iBus data (connects to yellow wire on the BMW harness)

https://wiki.ibus-app.de/images/thum...ble-colors.jpg

Here's is the Resler installation PDF - it covers off the installation better than I can. ;)

http://download.speedy-pics.de/uploa..._interface.pdf

tmat1977 07-02-2019 09:54 PM

i got sound baby.... resler works but sounds like crap worse then then factory is there a way set it up or adjust it eq has no barring on it its the loudness is really lower then usual

Hellgomes 07-03-2019 02:31 AM

Hi there!!
My oem dsp system, the sound was bad.
When install android the was crap because that was all right and all left, I take out the subwoofer cable in that days.
Now with resler the sound is perfect!! Better than stock radio.
Maybe you need to set "start dsp when boot the radio" in the options.
I dont touch the sound cables, only plug as the eonon android manual

tmat1977 07-03-2019 07:02 PM

i adjusted the dsp settings now it sound fantastic.. the complete intall with jl audio 10 in with amp get put in later on with stealth box in cargo boot.. i can sit and wait for the bavsound dsp amp to come out to upgrade the door speakers.. fixing the bushing and cv axels too this month.. valve cover gaskets ..should be bone dry and ready for another 130k.. its really is a fun SAV

wpoll 07-03-2019 09:11 PM

Glad you go it sorted - like I said, not magic, just a few steps to sort. :thumbup:

tmat1977 07-04-2019 11:17 AM

yea you have to solder the connection bite clips wont work too much resisitent for clip in ..learning something everyday

740ilDuke 07-14-2019 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1151538)
Great thread Prop :thumbup:

I'm an early Android adopter with the Eonon GA6166 that had a puny 1GB RAM PX3 SoM (System on Motherboard) with Android 5.0. I upgraded this unit to a more robust 4GB RAM PX5 SoM from WITSON on Ali Express.

I highly recommend that any Android head unit buyer not consider anything less than at least 2GB RAM. With basic apps running on my original 1GB system I was near 80% utilization of RAM and app response was very anemic.

My 4GB system is very snappy with however many apps I want to run.

Also, the iBus app and USB stick hardware is a must have IMHO to preserve and improve access to the OBC and offers minor coding functionality.

I would encourage anyone thinking of the upgrade to buy as much head unit as your budget allows and even stretch a little because a subsequent upgrade could mean dragging that long FAKRA cable from the spare tire all the way to the dash all over again :wow: , which is not a pleasant exercise.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A-...=w1144-h858-no

You'll also greatly benefit from speaker upgrades with your new head unit and search will give you threads on great ideas from Xoutpost on successful speaker upgrade selections.

Mike

This looks great. I have 2002 4.6is with DSP - but it has the business radio and tape deck. Is this type of unit plug and play?

Overboost 07-14-2019 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 740ilDuke (Post 1165836)
This looks great. I have 2002 4.6is with DSP - but it has the business radio and tape deck. Is this type of unit plug and play?

Whatever you choose will need the iBus adapter and app to control the DSP and BC values. Without the factory navigation your install will take about an hour if you are not running backup camera wiring.

Overboost 07-18-2019 11:41 AM

PSA iBus app 2.1.3.1 released this morning and has some new options. Performance mode screen with gauges added to the menu and allows a second auto start app if needed. Some other fixes as well that helped mine.

PropellerHead 07-19-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1166126)
PSA iBus app 2.1.3.1 released this morning and has some new options. Performance mode screen with gauges added to the menu and allows a second auto start app if needed. Some other fixes as well that helped mine.

Sweet! :thumbup: BTW, there's an option to switch back to IBus app after launching the other apps. I thought I read earlier in the thread that some folks would rather not have the IBus app stay up front. Unchecking that option leaves me looking at Waze on every start now. Do like

Overboost 07-19-2019 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PropellerHead (Post 1166224)
Sweet! :thumbup: BTW, there's an option to switch back to IBus app after launching the other apps. I thought I read earlier in the thread that some folks would rather not have the IBus app stay up front. Unchecking that option leaves me looking at Waze on every start now. Do like

There has been an option to launch a separate app once the iBus app started and I have been using that to launch the radio to the front. I have asked the iBus team to allow the home screen or launcher app to be selectable to take me to the home screen, that's where ultimately I want to start from. The new app update now allows for a second app to be started as well.

omgwtf 07-21-2019 10:08 AM

All good things so far.
With all the android HU, is anyone experiencing trouble with the radio receptions?
The Android HU I have looked similar to an Enon 2 knob with quad-core 2gb,
I have tried several ways to connect the antenna, even replacing the FAKRA plug to a standard.
The HU power antenna wire is connected. The reception is nowhere near the stock radio.
The ride is a 02 E53 3.0i no DSP or NAV
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Overboost 08-27-2019 04:08 PM

PSA for anyone running i-Bus app and adapter. 2.1.3.3 just released. Not sure what the changelog is, they are very poor on updating their website.

semcoinc 08-28-2019 10:07 AM

Thanks for the update OB, I'll install it today.

It really is a great app for our Android head units. :thumbup:

Mike

Overboost 08-28-2019 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1167974)
Thanks for the update OB, I'll install it today.

It really is a great app for our Android head units. :thumbup:

Mike

There is a changelog in the menu of the app when you install it under settings/help. Mostly PDC behavior changes... :thumbup:

EODguy 08-28-2019 11:10 AM

OB, do have a link to the update? I am hitting the great firewall of Arabia for some reason.

Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk

Overboost 08-30-2019 05:50 AM

Sorry for the delay EOD, racing Watkins Glen, NY this week and next. Here is the link from iBus 2.1.3.3 http://ibus-app.de/ccount/click.php?id=download

EODguy 08-30-2019 06:47 AM

No worries and thanks for the link. Hope all went well for you and never forget I'm always available to try a sandy cannonball run for any testing you want to do. I'll even cover fuel costs.....[emoji1787]

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Overboost 09-03-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by EODguy (Post 1168085)
No worries and thanks for the link. Hope all went well for you and never forget I'm always available to try a sandy cannonball run for any testing you want to do. I'll even cover fuel costs.....[emoji1787]

Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk

Had trouble in both races but we did put it on pole in class for both races... :thumbup:

https://www.gt4-america.com/news/177...er_season_id=1

EODguy 09-03-2019 09:04 AM

Awesome!!

Now about that proposed Rally with "sandy balls".....[emoji1787][emoji593]

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crystalworks 09-03-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EODguy (Post 1168259)
Awesome!!

Now about that proposed Rally with "sandy balls".....[emoji1787][emoji593]

You really did miss your calling as a comedian. :rofl::bustingup

EODguy 09-03-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalworks (Post 1168262)
You really did miss your calling as a comedian. :rofl::bustingup

My dad did always call me a smartass... [emoji848]

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Overboost 09-03-2019 12:13 PM

I liked the C4 chewing gum. THAT made me laugh! :thumbup:

Overboost 09-03-2019 08:21 PM

I-Bus app updated again. 2.1.3.4 is out now...

semcoinc 09-03-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1168293)
I-Bus app updated again. 2.1.3.4 is out now...

I've just installed it but can't find any noticeable changes in the things I use.

Anybody???? :dunno:

Mike

Overboost 09-03-2019 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by semcoinc (Post 1168297)
I've just installed it but can't find any noticeable changes in the things I use.

Anybody???? :dunno:

Mike

Changelog is in the about screen. Mostly some language issues and some bar anomaly.

Overboost 10-28-2019 08:00 PM

I-Bus app updated again. 2.1.3.5 is out now... Changelog is in the about screen.

Also software and hardware firmware updates available for the Avin WCPAA AutoPlay USB Adapter for Wireless CarPlay and Android Auto. :thumbup:

semcoinc 10-28-2019 08:11 PM

Thanks OB :thumbup:

I'll download it and get it installed soon.

Mike


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