Install Hualingan on e39/e53 DIY
 

The install on the non DSP cars seems to be plug and play. Below I put together a step-by-step DIY done on e53 with DSP and 17 connector. DIY for the DSP equipped cars using the first generation Hualingan unit.

This is the unit.
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...005Small-1.jpg

This is what you get in the box:
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...Y0009Small.jpg

1. remove the MID and the radio and make the cut on the e53 or remove the frame on e39. Below is the cut I made, you might be able to find a better line but it worked well for me.

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...035Small-2.jpg

2. Connect the Navigation unit with the proper harness (17 or 40pin adapter). Below is my setup using the 17 pin adapter.
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...029Small-2.jpg
If you don't have DSP you don't need to do the following steps.
3. I moved the eom radio in the trunk beside the dsp/amp. Use a second connector (17 or 40) to connect the radio to the power, ground, iBus, power antenna and 12vcc switched.
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...036Small-1.jpg

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Use a DB25 male connector. The newer models have a 54 pin connector. Identify the 12v switched and connect it to the radio connector.
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...040Small-1.jpg
4. Extend the MID wires to reach to the glovebox and move it in there. This way you will have the DSP, BC controls available if needed.
5. all done

Note that this way the HL unit will use the steering wheel controls as well as the DSP amp. So the volumes will be in series as you would have in a TV/sat Receiver home setup. If you get the oam amp too low using the steering wheel controls then the if you use the nav system to raise the volume then you will get distortions. So make sure you set the volume for the amp at a high level and control the audio volume using the steering wheel control.
I got a very good sound, I find it much better than the original radio.

I have done it this way because the dsp amp does not turn on by just connecting the HL unit. You have to trick the DSP amp to stay on.
I hope this helps for now. Hualingan is sending me a new harness to try it out.
http://www.dvdplayer.com.cn:81/uploa...3105455142.jpg
http://www.dvdplayer.com.cn:81/uploa...3105328691.jpg

Very Nice! Wished there was a better way rather than cutting up the frame (just in case I need to reverse the process).

That's the nicest double DIN head unit so far. It fits nicely and looks almost OEM, unlike even the better bezel kits. Nice job!

Now we need reviews of the quality and function of the unit. ;)

Florin, thanks so much for your writing. It's a great document! I didn't know that we have to cut the frame. New unit is double DIN no wonder.

Hi fmugur, sent you quite a long pm of questions - hope you could revert. thanks!

Oh by the way, can you post a picture of what the iPod interface looks like on the screen of the Hualingan please please? Can you really access everything on the screen just like how you do it on the iPod - (by playlist, by song, by artist, etc..)?

I love the unit, great sound and functionality. BT gives me some trouble with the voice quality at the far end. I am looking into that. Remember, if you don't have DSP the install is plug and play using a 17 or a 40 pin connector.

I thought about the same thing but when you see it installed there is no way you would like to go back to the outdated oam look and if you really really want to go back, it looks like the frame in e39 is removable and you can get one from a junkyard and install it.

Thanks for the wrieteup. very nice install. makes me want to go and crack open the piggybank.. its just weird that this company advertises the exact same model but states it is not the Hualingan
http://www.tv-in-motion.co.uk/bmw_headunit.html
I cant wait for the ipod pics, What about aux in or video out to connect to existing rear seat entertainment. straight from there website in QA
Q. Is this a Hualingan / Dynavin / D3 MMI BMW headunit?
A. NO.
liars.

BTW...how much is the unit and do you know where we can buy it in the US? Thanks.

Florin, what year of your X? 2001? Did you change your interior trim recently?

This is my second post on this thread and I'm really seriously contemplating on ordering mine already :-) im sure there are a lot more who has mixed emotions about this project so can you guys help us decide please??

For me one of my main concerns is removing the MID. Can anyone tell us the DISADVANTAGES and ADVANTAGES of removing the MID?? I'm not sure if I'm reDy to loose the MID but at the same time I'm not sure if I even use the info coming out of the MID. Can anyone help us decide on this please? Thanks!

You can't have both!

I would think you loose the whole functionality of your board computer. Not sure if you use or if it is important for you. When my BC was in a pixel repair shop I even was not able to set the time without that box.

@StartX5 - I guess so. Just trying to weigh the pros and cons. I want to know if I can live without the BC. All the rest of the functions are in the Hualingan anyway.

@Helmuth - Exactly what I'm worried about! The BC sets the time and date for the X right? And that's the only way to do it right? If I take the X to the dealers for servicing, would they look or require my MID or do they have a system that plugs somewhere? What happens to the OBC on my instrument cluster (the pixels that run below the mileage and P R N D, would that be affected as well? Currently that's where the check this, check that, fasten seatbelts, etc. appears. Would all of that disappear if I take out the MID?

When I didn't have the MID in the car all cluster functions were working but:

I could not set date/time.
I could not set start/end time of the heater
I could not start measuring fuel consumption.

Maybe more which I did not try because I hade her the first day :)

EDIT: You can remove the connection to the MID to test that. Easy task - 3 minutes ...

Will do exactly that and do the tests. I was considering retaining the MID somewhere in the garage if I would ever need to set the time and date again for the OBC in the future. I don't use the heater (I'm in a tropical country) and do not measure fuel consumption that much anyway. The cellular phone function does not work in my X :confused: and everywhere you wanna go is always one hour away due to traffic :bustingup

Thanks again for the inputs!

I haven't done this replacement yet, however, i was thinking to this solution if i replace the DVD/GPS for the OEM headunit MID:

I would like to keep the MID in glove box, connecting the original MID harness to an longer extension harness and keep the MID in glove box or hidding somewhere (underseat!?)

That would be promising :thumbup: though... a complicated procedure :yikes: (referring to the wiring process!) like the idea but as I said... I'll probably just keep the MID (uninstalled ofcourse) somewhere in the garage..? :dunno:

If I were you, before removing the OEM unit for the aftermarket replacement, i will set up everything work/look good. Then keep it for future uses if necessary.

Done.

I just installed the backup camera. What a pain! This is not an easy job. I wish the car was pre-wired. I will upload some pictures in case somebody would like to get an idea before starting the job.

I will try that. I am not and ipod user though :(

The pictures with the unit in the dash are from Hualingan site but mine looks exactly the same.

Very happy with it. Check the youtube videos. e46 or e39,e53 share the same hardware and functionality. Check them all.
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...hualingan&aq=f

So far I am not very pleased with the Bluetooth quality.

Does anyone in the boston/New england area have one of these I can check out (dealer or buyer)? Curious but not ready to jump in till I see one in person

seeing in person or here is the same loobie - i will be in Boston on ... Thanksgiving and i am sure at that time i will have one to show you lol - i have the unit here and will install sometimes this week.

Requested a picture of the iPod interface from Hualingan site and they sent me this.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...o/ipodcopy.jpg

Although I do not understand Chinese characters. this somehow gives me the feeling that the iPod interface on the Hualingan will suffice my needs of accessing songs through playlists, artists, album choices. Hope this helps the iPod enthusiasts like me.

Oh by the way, I was not able to control myself so I ordered the unit already. Will definitely write a short review of it when I install and use it. Cheers! :D

Who did you buy it thru? What site?

I like the looks of it so I just wanted to make sure the quality is decent and not a ton of lag when pushing buttons.

Have you seen it in person? On YouTube there does not appear to have any lagging. I'm interested....I'm tired of looking at my old radio. All I have in the business cd. Yuck.

@wallyx5 - from ebay straight from CHINA HONG KONG. It's nearer on my side of the pond :)

OK. But I looked in ebay this morning and could not find it. I will look again. I'm in, I will get one too.

OK found it. How much did you pay? I am seeing them for $649.00 Is that what you paid?

wallyx5, i got the same, just business CD :( actually i got the unit Dynavin for E39/53 and "made in the UK" not China.

So what's your opinion? Do you like it? How much did you pay? Pros & Cons?

it looks and feels like the OEM, however, they don't have any installation instructions at all. Stupid manual books i think! All they show you: how to use the unit. If you are not handy and you don't know much about car audio electric, you should not DIY. They shipped me a completed new kits with bunch of wires/harness and did not give me any instructions how to install it. This is suck. However, i will find the way to do it.
It's over $600.00

Yes that's it!

I bought mine from China electronic Wholesale - Buy China electronic Wholesale Products from Chinese Wholesaler Dropship - ctobay.com for $ 599.99 with free shipping. I will post some pictures when I have the unit and some info for everyone else.

Just to make sure everyone understands. There are a few differences between the Hualingan and the Dynavin. Pros and cons but I personally like the 7" screen vs. the 6.2. If you don't know what to get google the web for hualingan vs. Dynavin and decide.
Hualingan is plug and play if you don't have DSP or oem nav system. The unit works on these cars too but you have to add extra time for the install.
It comes with the plug and play harness (17 or 40 pin connector), take the MID and radio out and plug the new unit in. You have to cut the frame for Hualingan, that's 2 min job but that's the price you pay for the bigger screen.
I have it installed for a few weeks now and there is no way I will ever go back to the vintage oem radio.

Still wondering ....

would we lose the BC functionality with the Dynavin?

Best regards, H

It would have been nice. Neither Hualingan nor Dynavin have the BC functionality. But if you really need BC you can do as I did, move the MID in the glove box.

Have seen your post but still wondering what happens when I put the MID in the glovebox - which is a great idea - and remove the radio. Asking that question because I have added a DICE Silverline to the radio some weeks ago and I am really happy with that setup. Can I use the DICE on the new radio instead of the CD-Changer or has the Dynavin anyway a better iPod integration as the DICE has?

You see - a lot of questions

Thanks in advance, H

I found this website that is a forum for Hualingan products. These guys may have a little bit more info. Its a new forum so theres not a lot of info yet. But they have a working knowledge of how thing can be installed.

Car Solutions Dude ¦ In-Car Entertainement, care products, accessories and gadgets at a fair price

I am waiting to get mine, I hope it shows up this week.

That is a good source as well as this where we all started one39 all in one headunits Hualingan and Dynavin Reviews/Release dates/New Info - Page 21 - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum

Florin, thanks for your help. It looks pretty good and working good now.

Not sure if I answered this already. The Hualingan supposed to have all you need to surf your iPod. I don't see why you would need DICE. DICE uses the MID display the show the song, album and so on. The Hualingan has all that included.
On top of that, what I like the most is the A2DP which is the stereo BT. You can connect with the iPod without any wires.

You are welcome. I'm glad I could help.

This system has sold me. I know what I am getting for X-mas this year! Thanks for all the info!

Don't forget to upload the pics. :thumbup:

@fmugur - Hi Mr. fmugur! I got my Hualingan today!!! Yahooo! I hope you won't mind throwing a quick question at you because you have installed your unit already.

For the 40 PIN Connector; What is the connector for inside the red circle and the 3 loose wires green, white and purple for? I don't know where to plug them. where do you use or connect them specifically??

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...nnectorjpg.jpg

@fmugur - saw this picture you posted earlier. This might answer one of my questions. What is the black box inside the red circle?? (it's connected to the 40 pin connector as well)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...anquestion.jpg

That's the iBus connector. You have to connect that to keep the unit running and also use the steering wheel controls.

LUCKY!!!

Mine was updated to shipping, so I hope it shows up soon. Lets know how your install goes.

how is this thing lincluding the rear view cam shipped to US?

anything similar to this in US?

I'm not sure if there are any 'local' suppliers in the US. I bought this from ebay and it shipped 4 days via UPS. Not too bad. Check out ebay and search for BMW DVD GPS NAV in that order ad you'll see a lot of ebayers selling these Hualingan units.

Go one ebay and you will find some local resellers or try bimmernav. No idea what aaa is for your location, would be better if you use your real location for many reasons.

Bimmernav does not carry the Hualingan unit, they sell the Dynavin unit only.

i am sold i am buying this for my bday lol cant wait

They sell both, just added the Dynavin recently. Hualingan $625 and $699 for the Dynavin.


I still like more the 7in screen vs. 'forheaded' 6.2 one but I will probably buy one just to compare the two. Do you know what warranty bimmernav offers? In their warranty page they mention that it's through the manufacturer, I guess you have to ship it to China.

Bimmernav.com Online Store

"Non-BimmerNav-brand products: The guarantee or warranty of non-BimmerNav brand parts are the sole responsibility of the original manufacturer and are limited to whatever coverage they provide. "

Completely different item, but I purchased a motorcycle stand at Harbor Freight for $30 that said Made in China on the box. I needed spools, but HF didn't have them, so I went do the street to a dedicated motorcycle store for spools. I saw the EXACT same stand on their shelves, $110 more and had a cute little hang tag and a sticker on the side saying made in the UK. It's probably the same unit, just a reseller.

Nav/GPS
 

You're correct, I was thinking of Bimmian, I just bought a 2002 4.6is non-nav and was pretty much sold on the Hualingan unit. But I think I'll wait until I find more info on this particular unit.

| BMW Headunit Upgrade | Navigation retrofit | e46 | e53 x5 | E39 | E38

It looks to me that this unit is a Hualingan hardware and they probably put their goodies in there. It's windows CE overall and you can add cool stuff, now it depends on what they are going to add and charge for it.

Nav/GPS
 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, it sure does look like the Hualingan unit.

My AVIC F90BT runs off Windows CE, is fairly quick (since I hacked it) with button pushes, etc. Plays DVD's fine, but it terribly slow and sometimes even choppy when playing videos from the SD card. I'll definately be looking at one of these for the 7 since the ads appear to include OBC functions within the deck, which is what I'd love when doing a bezel like that, at least in the 7. For the X, I just relocated the OBC to the glovebox since I had to run the decks male & female USB and iPod connections there anyways. The OBC is 5 wires, quick and easy.

Finally found the time to install the Hualingan. I'm not finished yet. I haven't installed the metal plates with screws to secure the hualingan. I'm not sure where to drill. Also the unit seem to be mis aligned at the bottom part. Maybe I need to shave the upper part some more.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...01008-2249.jpg

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...01008-2228.jpg

Any suggestions on how I can align the bottom part?

Also there's this "Warning! Do not watch to master!" text that appears every now and then and prevents you from viewing the DVD movie or other screens. You need to reset to factory setting to get rid of it! :( WTF? How do I get rid of it without doing a factory reset? :(

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...01008-1916.jpg

I also can't get the GPS to work. I can't seem to pass this stage...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...01008-1917.jpg

Any of you lucky enough to make the gps work? Help please :(

I also have no idea where to connect the loose wires: orange for illumination, pink for brake (whatever that means) and a purple wire (which I forgot what the label was). There is also this earphone connector beside the iPod connector which I'm trying to figure out what it is for. I tried plugging in another iPod on it but it wouldn't work as an AUX IN! what is it for?!? AUX in in front panel is working so what is the one at the back?!?

On the otherhand: iPod interface is great. There's a little trick to display the other playlists, artist, song etc. choices. I'm happy with this!

Bluetooth phone connection worked well with my Blackberry storm 2. DVD movie quality is great. USB music and access is great and Sound quality is superb.

Still need to connect my backup camera, video in II for my other video player, gps antenna routing and mounting. Will do all of that tomorrow. I'm tired :)

It seems like this unit is a bit different the the first units that came out. I got iGo as a GPS software on mine. You should be able to find one on the net or do your homework and see if you can get your Garmin working. It looks like the other option is to purchase a license key for it :(. Did you asked when you bought it for the right mapping software or maps?
The brake wire should be connected to +12 or ground, it's different than mine. I didn't have to connect it but I guess they did implement it properly this time. You should be able to watch dvd when driving :). It should be connected to the hand brake that you can watch DVD only when the handbrake is active.

For the fitting, you should shave the upper part a little more. The bottom part didn't go all the way in in your case.

Hualingan is abit different from the Dynavin. May be it's a little bigger than Dynavin since the screen is 7" comparign to 6.2" of Dynavin. Dynavin is perfectly fit into the OEM "hole" :) Look at your photos, it seems like you don't have more space on the top. If you still have more space on the top, pushing it up a bit and using some black plastic nuts to insert from the bottom.


For message: "Warning! Do not watch to master!" don't WTF that early, you should connect the wire with "break" or "parking" to ground wire of the harness. You have to do this because once you connect break/parking wire the gound wire, the system will recognize that your truck is not moving but parking. They made this for your own safety warning massage.

GPS is not working? I am not sure you are in SE. Asia. checking the GPS antenna cable and location where you install it.

Can you take a picture of it? I asked them for an aux mic input a while back when I gave them my feedback. They might have implemented that. They told me that the BT is better on the new units. Can you try that to connect an external mic if you have one or use the iPod to output on it and make a phone call using the BT and see if the other end hears the iPod playing.

Hello all...White is for the Can bus converter and the other 2 are not used.

Chris
CKM Car Design

GPS still not working :(

So far these are the ones working on the unit:

1. DVD is playing :)
2. AUX-In Video works (plugged in my 2nd DVD Player located at the back seat area) :) :)
3. USB - stored music works :)
4. iPod interface is great but a little slow. But still great because you can access everything in the iPod. :) :)
5. Radio works both FM and AM :)
6. TV works - so far I viewed my favorite channels already. A little snowy but I'm sure it's the location. :)

These are NOT working as they should:

1. GPS - can't get it to work. It's looking for a Garmin GPS and stalls. :( :(
2. Bluetooth (Phone) - I can call, I can pair my iphone 3GS and Blackberry Storm 2, but the person on the other end cannot hear my voice! Maybe the MIC is not functioning or there is a setting I haven't discovered. :( :(

Scale of 1-10 Happiness level on the Hualingan? 7 as of the moment. If the GPS and Bluetooth will be solved, it will be a 9. I will reserve the reason why I'm not giving it a 10 :)

When I get my Christmas Bonus, I'm gonna try the Dynavin just to compare :)

@fmugur - Can you take a picture of it? I asked them for an aux mic input a while back when I gave them my feedback. They might have implemented that. They told me that the BT is better on the new units. Can you try that to connect an external mic if you have one or use the iPod to output on it and make a phone call using the BT and see if the other end hears the iPod playing.

Ok thank you all. No need to take a picture , it simply looks like the female of an earphone jack. AND It's not an AUX MIC input. I plugged in a MIC and it DID NOT work. Unfortunately the MIC on the front panel ALSO DID NOT WORK :( I can call and hear the person on the other line clearly but I CANNOT BE HEARD :( Although if I send touchtones / DTMF - it can be heard on the other end of the line :) better study morse code to be able to use this. The support guy I talked to said it was an AUDIO AUX IN but I doubt that ofcourse because I tried plugging in an iPod and had no sound at all. I plugged my other audio device through the RCA AUX INs at the back and it worked.

@CKMCardesign - Thanks but what is a Can bus converter?

@StartX5 - For message: "Warning! Do not watch to master!" don't WTF that early, you should connect the wire with "break" or "parking" to ground wire of the harness. You have to do this because once you connect break/parking wire the gound wire, the system will recognize that your truck is not moving but parking. They made this for your own safety warning massage.

Thanks. Apparently I have to ground the brown wire on the harness that says 'BRAKE". It's supposed to prevent the "Warning..." from appearing. I did not connect it and it hasn't appeared since hours ago. Maybe I'm lucky.

The back box you have conected to the white conector.

Singapore X5 E53 Buddies?
 

Hello to all? New here. Any Singapore X5 E53 owners out there?
I ordered the Hualingan unit too. Anyone knows where I can have it instaled in Singapore? Cheers..

Really random question, but how do the buttons feel/knobs turn? Are they hollow/plastic/like, or a good solid type of feel? Don't know how to explain this better...
Like, how the non-nav OEM radio buttons feel, compared to something cheaper and of lesser quality

Here's a night shot of the Hualingan to give you that night feel - how your dash looks during those night drives :)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...ganatnight.jpg

hey fullmetaljacket any resolutions to your problems?? good luck with your install

@fmugur - Hi Flo! here's the photo I owe you... Oh by the way, I emailed another reseller in HK and asked about this 3.5 female connector at the back beside the ipod connector and the guy answered "it is for the MIC" :)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...linganback.jpg

What's the letter "T" on the tape label attached to the wire??? :dunno:

another reseller said..."HI, THANKS FOR YOUR INTERESTING,,,
THIS CONNECTOR IS FOR THE TV ANTENNA , WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED WITH IT. YOU NEED TO BUY IT FROM SOMEONE ELSE BECAUSE I DON'T OFFER IT.
AND FOR THIS TIME I'M OUT OF STOCK FOR THREE WEEKS

I'm extremely confused now!!! :banghead:

In the previous picture you posted below, what is this antenna for? Maybe this mates with the mysterious jack beside the white ipod connector??? :confused:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...tvantenna2.jpg

I have the TV which is the one you circled in the picture above but unfortunately the DVB-T does not work in NA. I remember you mentioned that you got the TV working. Now, what type of antenna did you connect and where? On my units the tv cable beside the IPod cable. The connector is similar to the gps connector.

For the mic jack, not sure. Hopefully it is for the mic. As I said I don't have the new model as you have. I hope to get my new units this weekend.

doing more and more research on this fullmetaljacket, and it seems the unit comes preloaded with igo navigation, and sometimes not finding the right file on the sd card can cause it to default and go to garmin, not an expert but saw on youtube and carsolutionguys that this is a common problem with setup, want this unit so bad but seems like the dynavin is alittle more smooth to install for the masses.

Not quite sure that Dynavin is more robust though. Hualingan came first on the market with this unit and there are just a few test units for Dynavin out there. They haven't started the production yet. So far there is not much feedback on Dynavin. I do not have problems with mine other than the BT not having good voice quality to the far end when in a call. Other than that it's a very good unit.

The GPS is running from the SD card so it's whatever you put on it. You have a path that you can set in the units Setting menu for the GPS app to start. You can use any app to run that way. To me it looks like if he gets a good gps on the SD card then all should be ok.

[QUOTE=
The GPS is running from the SD card so it's whatever you put on it. You have a path that you can set in the units Setting menu for the GPS app to start. You can use any app to run that way. To me it looks like if he gets a good gps on the SD card then all should be ok.[/QUOTE]
i saw videos of wolf and igo software looks really cool to me, now am venturing into seeing how to customize your displays, theres this one display of bmw with world in background that is niceeee, i definitely appreciate the size of the hualingan which is why to me is worth the time put into install,

My TV worked in Analogue mode but picture was snowy. There was NO antenna provided hence non was installed except the one for the radio. When I get my unit back from the dealers, I will experiment on plugging in an antenna setup into the 3.5 female earphone jack at the back. Then, I will move the antenna around, if there will be significant changes in the picture reception quality - whether bad or good, I will be convinced that that particular plug is for the antenna!

REGARDING THE BLUETOOTH MIC:

I suddenly realized that maybe...the MIC I've been trying to plug into the Hualingan's back 3.5 earphone jack is not compatible with the system. Ive been trying to plug in this type of MIC JACK coming from the Alpine EX-10 ipod integration and bluetooth kit (NOTICE THAT THIS MIC ONLY HAS 2 WIRES:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...DOUBLEcopy.jpg

I bought a new external MIC from the store today used for PC's. Tested it on my PC and was able to record my voice. This particular MIC JACK has 3 wires on it:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...JACKTRIPLE.jpg

I hope this will work on the Hualingan! We'll keep you posted.

Hi there, that cable you have circled next to the iPod connection is the Antenna port for the Inbuilt Tuner, not an External Mic Port :(

Which such as my internal mic sucks ass inside my E39 Hooligan unit. I got mine 2 days ago so it should have all of the updated stuff on it and still no Mic.

Anybody know how to use the 'Music' 'Photo and 'Video' functions on this unit, whenever i put in my 32GB SD it takes me to the SD menu however i would like to use the Audio Menu to access the files on it, however it does not show up when i try to browse for it :(

Ohh also im a member of Bimmerforums so you can see my install pics in the E39 Section etc, however im having an issue with the iPod cable sound, its all hissy and makes random noises when nothings playing/ song changes, it does not happen on any other function, only iPod. I have tried 2 ipods... touch and iPhone same issue on both, i have a feeling i could have a dudd cable. Anybody know where i can get a replacement iPod cable / know what the correct name of the cable is? is it a DIN9 iPod cable or?

I wan't somebody to start making themes etc for this, i can't wait to see an iDrive style menu theme :)

willy_manilly - Hi there, that cable you have circled next to the iPod connection is the Antenna port for the Inbuilt Tuner, not an External Mic Port

Which such as my internal mic sucks ass inside my E39 Hooligan unit. I got mine 2 days ago so it should have all of the updated stuff on it and still no Mic

Is the Antenna port you are referring to a 3.5mm EARPHONE JACK LOOKING CONNECTOR? (Female?) I was informed that other Hualingan units (non E53's) had TV Antenna connectors looking similar to the GPS Gold colored plug. I'm just making sure. Thanks by the way.

How's the audio quality of the internal MIC? I'm planning on dismantling the thing and rewiring the MIC! I'm 2 steps away :)

Try using a smaller SD card - a 2gb or 4gb. I think these units were not built to take in big sd cards.

Have you had any luck with the SD cards?

It works in the normal SD menu, all the songs show up however i don't really wanna use that! haha

The internal mic is terrible quality, people on the other end can't hear me :(

Yes that 3.5 Jack is actually the input for the Antenna for the Inbuilt TV tuner! which is stupid, its gonna be a hard task finding one of those antennas!

I just received this email from the folks at TV-In-Motion, I'm going to be patient and wait for their model to be released.

BMW Replacement Headunit update

Got mine today. :wow: Installed in about 3 hours. Plug and play. Have alot to learn. The blue tooth is great. I made a few calls and the sound and voice is clear. Heres some pics

Here is another one.

wally, where did you get yours again?

Seems odd that tv-in-motion would be selling what looks like the hualingan, but they have a different, super version...
(not questioning your purchase romeo, obviously your waiting for a great product, I just would be even more confused about these units if they look the same but now made by different companies)
Am I completely way off on this and am behind a little bit on this thread, or

wallyx5 any hiccups with your install or smooth sailing for you??? looks great in the x5

Congratulations on a nice install! Really love the way the HL looks on our dash! I noticed that your HL was not mounted 'too deep' in the hole. Were you able to use the 2 metal bars/frame for the HL to latch on? How did you secure the HL?

The reason I ask is because I had to do a 're-install' on mine so that the HL can go in deeper even with the 2 metal bars/frame mounting.


BTW, how's the bluetooth audio to and from. Also, your GPS? (Are you on Garmin OS or iGo?)

I had to modify the brackets a little bit so that Unit sits all the way in. This was probably the hardest part of the install.

I have not hooked up the GPS yet because I want to run the wire under the dashboard so the everything looks clean. And remove the dashboard is a HUGE pain in the a**. But I have to do it because the blower motor died and the only way to replace it is removing the dash. I will keep you posted I think I will do it today.

Thanks for this wally! We did it almost the same way. I tried getting it further down. Yes I agree it was the hardest part of the install. Had to shave a lot of plastic with the dremmel!. Cheer!

I ended up moving the bracket up a 1/8 of an inch so that the unit seats all the way in at the bottom. I will get another pic. But now it fits just perfect. I am very impressed with how it looks and feels.

Ok Guys I am finished. Almost.... I got my blower motor replaced and needless to say what a job. I still have some tweaking to my Hualingan unit but the placement is excellent. Here's some more pics

Now that's what I'm talkin about! I like the HL deeper in that hole. You got it Wallly. Niceee!

Great picture of the naked dashboard. Geeez! Will you be able to put things back together?!?! :dunno:

I am able to derive much knowledge from this. I hope you can post some more 'naked dashboard' pix (in different angles) so that we know where to run cables and stuffs. Very useful for mods involving running stuffs under the dash and all. Thanks!

wow this guy took it to a whole other level, great job man

WoW WallyX5, what a job :thumbup: Keep us posted on other neat improvements that should go with this unit.

Hey fullmetaljacket, this looks so much better than the Dynavin, right? LOL!:thumbup:

:iagree:

At first it didn't want to sit all the way back in the molding. I kept moving and what i found was the wires in the back I think were holding it up from dropping into place. So what I did was remove the heating cluster directly underneath the radio spot and from there I was able to get my hands under neath to move things around and slide it all the way in.

And the pictures you see are after I put everything back together. Its not that difficult to remove everything it's just slow. But I have Heat & Air conditioning. Yeah!

Can anyone tell me if this unit works with sat radio? I have the blizsafe/XM setup that connects to the CD changer and love it, I would be devastated if I had to use something else as I spent a good chunk of change on the unit. Thanks in advance!

hey wallyx5 where did you order your unit from?? noticed your box said hualingan on it, just curiousity

ok ok i gave in and ordered mine today lol early birthday present i guess

great
 

great info guys. thanks so much

The installs look great guys. I have a couple of questions.

How do you get to the desktop?
How do you install applications? copy from SD card?

Why did you have to connect the power antenna when you moved the original CD to the back? Doesn't the HL handle that up front?

Did they send the new harness? Exactly what does it do and do you have a screen shot of it?

Finally had the time to focus on fixing all my Hualingan problems this weekend. I FINALLY OPENED UP THE HUALINGAN UNIT (didn't care about the waranty anymore because the guy where I bought it from is giving me a difficult time as well!).

I previously assessed the Hualingan like this...

These are NOT working as they should:

1. GPS - can't get it to work. It's looking for a Garmin GPS and stalls.
2. Bluetooth (Phone) - I can call, I can pair my iphone 3GS and Blackberry Storm 2, but the person on the other end cannot hear my voice! Maybe the MIC is not functioning or there is a setting I haven't discovered.
3. Chinese characters on the iPod interface intead of the words; Playlist, Artists, Albums, Genres, Songs, Podcasts, etc.etc.

Scale of 1-10 Happiness level on the Hualingan? 7 as of the moment. If the GPS and Bluetooth will be solved, it will be a 9. I will reserve the reason why I'm not giving it a 10

1. Now the GPS is working but since the HL unit has a very small onboard memory, the GPS is crappy. Scale of 1-10 for a GPS I'd give it a 5.

2. Regarding the Bluetooth missing audio, this is the exciting part where I'm sharing a DIY to all of you ther who have problems with the audio quality as well as those who would like to install an external MIC (I think fmugur/flor wants to do this). This is for you guys...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...attachmic1.jpg

Then...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...attachmic2.jpg

Finally...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...attachment.jpg

Now the other end of the line can hear me LOUD and CLEAR! (mounted the external MIC/clipped it on the sunvisor.

I also found out that the 3.5 earphone jack at the back is really an external TV antenna port. SO I connected a 3.5m male earphone jack, extended the wire and tapped it to a magnetic tv antenna that luckily I have a spare from a portable dvd/tv player that came with an external tv antenna!

3. Chinese characters on the iPod interface intead of the words; Playlist, Artists, Albums, Genres, Songs, Podcasts, etc.etc I did every programming instructions from Hulingan seller but THEY (Chinese Characters) ARE STILL THERE...but I don't mind anymore this is a very minimal flaw for me. Scale 1-10 happiness level on the iPod interface is a 9.

One final note on NOT having the OBC functions: the BMW dealers said they could not re-program my X because it does not have the OBC anymore. Even if I did install the OBC for them to program something, they said the programming will all be lost if I remove the OBC again. So I FINALLY did a DIY and re-installed the MID/OBC inside the glove compartment. I extended the connector using different colors of RCA plugs so that I don't get confused when I reconnect them. I cut them one-by-one and connected them one-by-one as well so that I don't get to short circuit anything (better safe/slow than sorry). Here's the final look of my glove compartment now...

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...bcglovebox.jpg

Now my score with the Hualingan is final at 8. Why short of 2 points. 1st Point; My Chinese GPS (Garmin) Clone which is just as small as my wallet packs more GPS functions than the bricked sized Hualingan! 2nd: The guy who sold it to me ran out of solutions and said I open up the unit instead of replacing it! What kinda service was that??? Self service warranty??? Finally my 3rd point is the Chinese characters on the interface which I said didn't bother me "that much". So it's a 10 - 2 crucial points = 8! Hope this helps. Cheers!

wow fullmetaljacket this turned into a crazy project for you

Nice work fullmetal. I'm still customizing my unit. This info helps.

Thank you

I did the exact same thing about a year ago when I installed my AVIC. 5 wires, nice and easy, and I had to do it anyways to run all my iPod and male/female USB connectors. I even put in a long screw down the side so it snaps into place. It's easier than it looks people, hardest part was removing the glovebox itself.

Any news about satellite radio connectivity? I would really like to know. Thanks

Hi! I don't have satellite radio connectivity on this side of the pond but if your sat radio's audio-out connects or can be routed through a pair of RCA AUX INPUTS or a 3.5mm EARPHONE JACK then you can very well use this particular unit.

There is a a pair of right and left AUX INPUTS at the back and a 3.5mm earphone female port on the lower right front panel. Your choice.

But if it runs coaxial or optical or digital I wouldn't know. I hope this helps.

You did the right thing. GOOD JOB! As I mentioned before the only complain I had about this unit was the poor BT quality which you found a solution for.
I would rate this unit 9 as well on a 1-10 scale.
Did you get the iGo going or Garmin? I am pretty happy with iGo.

you guys gave me the idea to add a external mic the dynavin comes with one but i prefer the larger screen size

Thanks Florin! Putting the unit back together was the most difficult part. Luckily I did not have any spare screws left when I put everything back! :D I cannot GO with iGo becasue our Philippines map can only work with the GARMIN OS :(

Did they send you the new harness?
Also is navigation traffic implemented on the HL? I know that iGo supports it.

can you share your feedback on this including NAVAGATION, IPOD, BLUETOOTH, and REARVIEW CAM?

i will go with this option as they claim its plug and play while the unit you are discussing requires lots of work based on options you have:dunno:

What new harness? I don't know about the traffic. I will look into it and let you know.

From your original post

It is unclear to me how this new harness is going to solve the DSP issue. For the DSP amp to turn on and stay on the HL has to send communication on the IBUS every 10 seconds. The amp picks this up and continues to stay on. I'll bet Hualingan thought they needed to send an electrical signal to the amp and hence, a new harness.

Hualingan must have already figured out how to get on the IBUS as they can respond to steering wheel controls. It should be very easy for them to emulate the message required to turn on the amp.

Oh ok, I forgot about that. I received last week half of my order and next week the rest and I was told that the harness will be in this coming half although I don't think the harness will fix the dsp problem. I think the harness they sent me is for the nav equipped cars. They told me that I have to connect to the battery compartment where actually you find the radio for nav cars.
Anyway I can test one new HL unit on my DSP car and see if they fixed it. I will let you guys know tomorrow. You're right though, that's the way they should fix it, on the iBus not with a harness.

When I talk to them they even dont know of this issue or have a solution...!! ??

im supposed to be receiving my unit today or tomorrow, hope all goes well, fmugur, since you installed youve been having problems with your amp???

I love it. No problems at all.

fmgur - can you restate how volume control works in your DSP system? Since you have both the DSP amp and the HL responding to steering wheel volume control changes I don't understand how you adjust the volume.

Not very different than normal. I actually do not touch the MID volume anymore.
So, the MID/DSP volume has a default level when you start the car. That volume might not be enough for you. It depends how high you listen to the radio. The level is ok for me. Now, when you use the steering wheel controls both volumes go up and it feels normal increase. If yo use the HL volume then you increase the input volume for the DSP amp which will cause distortion at the very hich level. In my case I use both. So if I want to listen very loud to music then I lower the volume from HL and increase it from the steering wheel controls.

I went in details because you asked but to be honest I already forgot the way am controlling the volume. It is similar to your home entertainment system if you use TV volume and the receiver volume. I think I mentioned in the DIY, you can take the MID volume potentiometer out and wire it to the ashtray if you think you need that handy.
I haven't had a chance to try the new units yet, tonight I will do it for sure although I do not think they fixed the DSP problem.

I was afraid of this. This is not very exciting for us DSP owners. I really don't want a situation where volume control works this way. It would be nice if we could set the HL at a constant level and have it NOT respond to the steering wheel. I guess I could not connect the HL's can bus interface box, but then I lose the other steering wheel controls as well.

You will not really notice that daisy chain volume setup much. It would have been nice if somebody knows how to setup the default volume to a higher level. So if you have the volume at startup high enough you will not notice a problem at all. So far I am pleased with it.
I just tested the new HL units and the DSP problem is still there. I will follow up with Hualingan.

i dont have dsp and am wondering if anyone else has pics of how they plugged the harness that came with it??

this is my oem harness from the car
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...x/IMAG0092.jpg

and these came from bimmernav
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...x/IMAG0093.jpg

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...x/IMAG0094.jpg

am missing something??

That's right. Use the flat pin connector/harness from the package and you're done. Test it out and if everything works than cut the frame and install the brackets. They gave you two types of connectors. Hold on to the round one, somebody with 17 round pin connector and DSP would need it.

Thanks for following up with Hualingan on the DSP. I decided to see if I could beat it. I have a Resler interface that allows me to connect a laptop to the IBus. I recorded the IBus startup sequence when playing FM radio. I removed my MID and CD Player. I then connected an aftermarket radio to the X. I tried pinging the amp with the laptop and it replied. However I could hear no music coming from the aftermarket radio. I continued to ping the amp and it continue to reply but still no music.

I'll need to double check the aftermarket radio to make sure it is putting out some sound. More than likely the startup sequence for the sound system is probably a little more complicated then what I tried.

I have decided to wait for those tv-in-motion guys to release their unit (since they claim OBC support) before I make any purchase. If it doesn't support DSP then I am getting rid of the DSP amp and then I'll get one of these.

I thought of the same thing. It must be a bit more complicated than that. You can keep the dsp amp on with that trick but for some reason you cannot make it to put out what's on its input. Volume on DSP cars is different than the non dsp. It looks like the MID controls the volume on the DSP amp and the radio out puts constant level while on the non-dsp cars the MID volume controls the output of the CD player.

thanks fmugur installed and all good to go just need to test the bluetooth but so far gps, radio, everything else works great

fmugur - since Hualingan seems motivated to create these adapter harnesses maybe you can convince them to create an adapter so that we don't have to cut the MID wires.

It would also be really cool if they could give us adapters to replace the DSP amp with an aftermarket amp, so that we can plug directly into the wires without splicing them, but that is probably pushing it! :rofl:

Well, I decided I need one too for an early Christmas present to myself! Just ordered one from ctobay website. Fingers X. :thumbup:

How do the GPS work? Will it work for New Zealand? What do I need to do? Cheers.

I have in stock for $699 with backup camera included.
Also for non US market I have two units with DVB-T.

I have a solution now fpr the DSP problem from Hualingan! They have solved it. Just a pin that needs to be moved.

Can you post it please.

I got this answer:

About the DSP problem.

Attached photo. please cut off the blue white cable which connect in white plug. and connect the other end of it to the position of the red cable.

For any problem, please feel free to contact me.

was able to finish install took my time now just to clean up
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/a...x/IMAG0099.jpg

What I tried 2 month ago was swapping the brown with blue/white. The red wire seem to be the switched 12vcc but no luck.
http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...Y0024Small.jpg
I guess you tried it and it works. What year was the X you tried it on? just for reference.
Can you please explain what the two wires do?
So, swap the blue/white with red in the white connector? red goes where blue/w was and vice versa?

mrBrigante that looks really nice. :thumbup: Everytime I see one I get that much closer to wanting to pull the trigger.

Do you actually try this yourself? Does this mean that every HL has this feature already built in?

Good job! I see you didn't use the brackets, how did you make it stay? I know it's tight but after a while will come out if you don't secure it with screws.

For the price and moderness of this system, it makes me sort of wish I had seen this before I got my AVIC F90BT, delt with all the bezel stuff to make it work, having to hack the software to bring it up to 2010 specs, etc. Looks like you guys found a good all-in-one package here. Definately something I'll have to look into when I feel like sinking more money into the 7 since she's the only one left without an A/V system.

Yea I've been thinking about that too, still have a factory head unit.
I think you should consider waiting until the one from tv-in-motion.co.uk comes out
here is the link
| BMW Headunit Upgrade | Navigation retrofit | e46 | e53 x5 | E39 | E38

I don't have stock navi in the 7 either, so a tv-in-motion won't be helpful to me as I need a whole headunit. My biggest thing is making sure the headunit is large enough to replace the tape deck (which my single din sits in now), the DSP box (which isn't even in use anymore, it's just filling a hole) and hopefully can take over the MID function/displays as well, otherwise I'll have to relocate it to the glovebox like I did in the X5.

Actually, the guys over at tv-in-motion are making their own version of the Hualingan. They are changing the hardware and software. On the hardware side they are putting in a better disc player and possibly an anti-glare screen plus other enhancements. On the software side they are adding support for the OBC (the information you access currently through the MID). It is unclear if the unit will support DSP systems. No one has beaten DSP yet, minus the work-arounds. Hopefully CKM Car Design will come back with full info on how the current HL can work with DSP.

Haulingan unit
 

I bought mine last week and it is being ship as I type:rofl:, I also am planning on redoing the system to bypass the DSP and hook up a 4 channel amp in its place (Alpine MRP-F300 AMPLIFIER 4 CHANNEL AMP). I ordered the sub box from Allstarsrd12 on this board and am planning on putting in an Alpine 500 Watt RMS Mono Car Amplifier with a shallow mount ALPINE SWS-1043D 10" 900W sub. I had already swapped out the speakers with Alpine Type-S SPS 600c, but the sound was still crap. chalked it up to the great X5 radio system.

Has anyone done a complete removal and reinstal of aftermarket components? want to know if there are any gotchas. I have read this thread inside and out and it seems most issues are with making sure the connections to the head unit are accurate. I ordered the new unit with the 40 pin connector so I will see how plug and play it realy is. I will keep you posted.


New head unit - $695 on ebay
Sub encloser - $150 on Xoutpost
Alpine 10" sub - $80 new on ebay
Alpine sub amp- $75 new on ebay
Alpine 4chnl amp - $125 new on ebay
Alpine SPS 600c speakers (2 sets) @ $65 each on ebay.
Install - $400

You're mistaken, the tv-in-motion is a complete head unit, it looks like a Hualingan unit that they are building to their own specs, check out the website.

I don't think CKM got that working. Hualingan is still working on it. I tried everything I could think of to get it going. All I could do was to keep the dsp amp up but that's one part of the problem, the second is dsp to accept the input signal which it hasn't been done yet.

This is what they tell me....I look into it more.

Thanks CKM. I just helped another guy yesterday with DSP and he wasn't able to get sound for more than a few seconds. He had to use my work around.

for my install i didnt like how the brackets were making the unit sit, so i used a saw and filed down the oem brackets then have it secured with an aluminum homemade bracket, i noticed some reference to the glare problems with the screen, dont know how many feel up to it but i tested and successfully found that using a privacy screen or tinted screen protector fixes that problem, i tried it with the screen protector from my phone and now am just ordering a uncut tinted screen protector, then adjusted my screen brightness and havnt had problems

Yes yes! I hate the glare! What's the solution guys? Would it be putting on those anti-glare screen protectors for iPhones that are fingerprint / smudge free? Let me know how you guys solve this issue.

Hi, I'm a new member, but all the info here is great, since the Hualingan unit doesn't come with any installation info or guide :confused:, I installed my unit and took me about 5 hrs....
I haven't figured out how to place the brackets, but I'll do that today, and haven't got my gps working the signal is very weak, I'll recheck the antenna today also, but software works good the Igo8 and polnav, destinator 9 crashes, it seems the unit has very low memory for this kind of softwares, a guy told me he can increase the memory, but I'll post that if I do.

Thanks for all the info, you guys have done a great job and the units look awesome installed, mine improved the sound like 40% with the same speakers, and one question what is the DSP they are talking about?:dunno:

worked for me get uncut or ipad privacy screen protector then cut to screen and turn up the screen brightness if needed sand voila no more glare

got it thanks!

The DSP is an amp with extra feature which works very different than the normal amp. Glad you found this thread helpful. Post you install and user experience with your unit.

So Far I´m ok with the unit, DVD working ok, installation took about 5 hrs but it fitted great at the end, I´ll Post pics later, the ipod works and sounds great, but the cable is not very good, sometimes I have to reconnect to get the unit reading the Ipod, my gps is not working, I get 1 or 2 satellites max, I got to run Igo8 and Polnav softwares, but haven´t been able to make them work, tomorrow a gps guy is coming to help me; I´ll post results, I checked today the antenna and is well connected, and I put the antenna in the dash next to the speaker also, but I´ll try tomorrow again and post.

Overall satisfaction is good, It looks much better than the OEM radio, and I was looking for an ipod integration, so it worked for me, but It´s no original BMW or high end quality built feeling, it really feels cheaper than a quality brand radio, but it fits just in perfect harmony with the dash:
:thumbup:

received my hualingan , waiting for my back sensor camera to arrive , also looking for a shop to help me install the said unit =)

Ok Today the GPS guy came, he told me the unit has very low memory to run the destinator or garmin Gps software, and checked my antenna with no results, he said it's a very bad antenna, and that was probably the cause my GPS is not working, so he is going to get me a new Gps antenna with Sirf III chip, he said it's more powerful and will work, (Hope So!):dunno:and I posted some pics of my installation and finnish look, besides that the unit is working ok, I also have some interference noise sometimes, does anybody has that??? I checked the noise filter included and it looked good, but still getting some noise from engine???
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Mine have no noise and the Nav software works perfect for US and Canada, not sure about Mexico. The GPS antenna works very well on my units. You might have gotten a bad unit. We always test the units before we ship them out. Not all units are perfect. For example, I got an unit that does not save the AM radio stations but everything else works good. So, this unit will never be sent out. In your case hopefully is the antenna. Thanks for sharing.

Hey guys,

New to this forum. I stumbled across this thread after I placed an order for my Hualingan unit from Ctobay. It definitely helped reduce some time on the troubleshooting aspect of the fittment of the unit.

Anyways, everything on the unit works great and I haven't had any problems yet although I haven't tried playing a DVD yet, however I am trying to resolve the GPS issue. My headunit never game with a SD card that had the maps preloaded. From what I understood it was supposed to have the maps on it from Ctobay but I have not heard back from them and I sent out an email a couple weeks ago.

Just wondering if any of you had to download the maps yourself and if so where did you get the maps from and how was it setup? I found some downloadable stuff online but I'm not sure if I should try that or upgrade to a more reputable GPS service like Garmin, if that's possible.

I never heard of iGo but I was very impressed with it. When I got the first units I thought I should get Garmin but I didn't see the need. It wokrs very well for Canada and US.

iPad Privacy Anti-Glare for Hualingan
 

Got the iPad privacy screen protector, cut it and installed it. Since it's a privacy screen protector and naturally we are on its right or left side when accessing the Hualingan, I'm having trouble viewing the screen :( (Ofcourse) It's like having astigmatism - double imagery. Sorry but this didn't work for me :(

1st of all downloading Garmin into the Hualingan is illegal (in nature) it's like pirated software. So not everyone welcomes this idea. I got my a__ whipped when I entered a map forum asking help on this. My account got blocked :(

That however didn't stop me from downloading and using Garmin because iGo (the official GPS OS of the Hualingan) does not support the available map in my country hence I have no choice but to install a pirated Garmin Mobile XT application so that I can run the GPS. Garmin does not need to get mad at me because - It's crap! This is due to the low on-board memory of HL. Therefore I don't even bother turning it on becasue it screws up all the other functions of the HL when the memory has been maxed out. Most of the crucial Garmin capabilities cannot run due to HL's low on board memory. I still have to figure out how to increase the HL's RAM. (Help!!!)

My point is, the Hualingan was built for iGo, if iGo has maps for your country then use iGo. From the reviews I've read, it's a fairly good GPS OS.

(BTW, maps are free unlike the Garmin and iGo app. and can be downloaded/ used by anyone)

Please please please post how the "guy" increases the HL memory! This will be greatly appreciated! Thanks! :thumbup:

He installed a version of Microsoft Explorer on the SD card, then he ran it like the GPS File path Setting, and then It appears like an Internet explorer page in the screen, but in Chinese, since this guy knew which folder, he checked the memory, but it was set to max already, it appears that they came with the max. setting from factory, but the thing is that they only put the necesary memory to run certain navigation software, like the iGo, Polnav. Route 66 etc, mine was not able to run Destinator 7 or 9, or garmin mobile X/T, I'm still waiting for my new antenna to check if my Gps finally works. :loco:

I had no idea that downloading the Garmin software was illegal, but thanks for the heads up.

I don't really have a problem going with the iGo, but I'm just trying to figure out which is the correct/updated version I should have for North American (Canada/US) Maps. I see a lot of different ones available, and I'm not sure which one to get. Some are as big as 3.1GB and the SD card I have (and that is recomended) is only a 2GB card.

I do not want to piss off anyone on this forum, but is it okay to ask where the iGo maps can be gotten from, or even purchased for that matter?

Where can I but this?and how much does it cost

$699 shipped today if you want one. I get all the units tested before shipping and the iGo is fully functional with maps and POIs. PM me if interested.

I just installed the unit with a 40 pin connector. :D. It was a painful experience having to butcher the frame to fit. There is no coming back to fit the original units.

A couple of questions.

Is the can bus converter being use or connecetd anyway? What is it for?

Where do you connect the "illunination" wire?

The manual show "car settings" icon for setting speed,etc...but this is not visible on the screen. GPS is working but no Nav software or maps. Would a working Nav software and maps provide these features?

It would appear that the following doesn't work anymore?

CD changers - not a show stopper. If it does, how?
Set Speed Limit alert/Time/Date - need to reconnect original unit to reset?

Thanks in advance.

Does anybody know what I would download if I wanted to use Ndrive for my Navigation. My unit did not come with iGO and so I need something. When I go to Ndrive web site they list a few different options but none say windows CE, there is windows mobile..would that work? And is it the maps that I would be downloading?

Or have you found something else to load as the pathway, if so what and where do I find it.

Thanks

Moved BC into glovebox but not working...
 

Hi guys,
Installed my Hualingan today and thank-you for the fantastic information on this site (had to cut the frame to get it in and this thread was invaluable!)...

Moved the BC into the glovebox and extended the wires...but it isn't lighting up etc...

Confident that the wires were extended correctly and soldered etc...

Should it be? Any ideas why it might not be?

thanks all,

Ian

Did you disconnect and reconnect 1-by-1? as in 1-by-1? I was careful not to short any of the wires with other wires in the cluster. Someone mentioned in another forum that shorting wires would result to a computer error. But you didn't have that so use a continuity tester and test each wire. You can never be too sure.

Thanks for the response...

Yep, read that post and did each wire, one-by-one, being careful not to short anything...

I'm having the same issue :confused:

Fuse looks good as the Dynavin is still working. I went one wire at a time and made sure nothing touched. I even checked with a multimeter and the voltage was 12 on 3 out of 5 wires and an Ohm reading was good for continuity in all 5 wires. The MID worked perfect right before I installed the Dynavin.

Any help is appreciated.

hi to all

pls help. my unit was installed and screen working etc, but no sounds is coming out. The store who does the installation for me told me to check if i can get a diagram of hualingan harness, which color is for which. pls help thanks

hi fullmetaljacket - i am sending you PM message and i am not sure if you getting them, pls help check in your free time. thanks

Do you have a DSP system?

I installed the Hualingan a week or so ago. If you are careful about the harness, you can just about pull the adapter to the glove compartment (our cars are made the correct way - driver on the RHS :nanana:) without requiring extension harness. You won't be able to leave the BC connected in the glove compartment but you should be able to connect as and when needed for resetting. I lost more pixels when I had the BC reconnected but it is working.

I too did not get the 2GB SD card with iGo map as promised but managed to get a copy after some "surfing" and also the country map for NZ. The GPS with iGo works very well. It is pretty straightforward to swap maps. Heaps of info on the web. Tried nDrive and didn't like it.

hualingan - not working from my side, pls help
 

Hi NextGen and Others ( pls help)

1. Pardon my ignorance, but i am not sure what is a DSP.

2. My unit comes with the stock head unit ( i browse the net and found a similar photo) and it also comes with the Alpine BMW iPod interface ( see photo)

3. Attached herewith is a photo of the harness where my installer ask me to take a photo and ask or search for a diagram if correct.

He told me since my Stereo was added with Alpine BMW iPod interface, the old installer might have changed the original BMW harness, to fit with the said Alpine BMW iPod interface. By doing so, he is that the Hualingan harness wont fit exactly with my BMW harness now.

4. He is asking me to ask for BMW Original harness diagram and also Hualingan harness diagram so he can match them up.

5.My installer totally removed the original BMW head unit when he installed the Hualingan thing. But I noticed the original BMW head unit in some photos on current thread, some put them in the globe box. Is this needed to be done so Hualingan will work?

Pls help. Thanks

Take a look at the top right button on your MID (radio). If it says DSP then you have it.

See here also http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/x5/...ve-dsp-x5.html

440films - I saw your post on bimmerforums where you now have yours working. Remember, we are all here to help each other, if you feel motivated to ask question, find the motivation to come back and share your solutions too. :thumbup:

onions - After connecting the MID, did you press the volume knob? This knob also turns the unit on and off. This is just a guess on my part.

great to see more people jumping on his unit, so far its been good to me, navi, bluetooth alone has me sold, radio, language etc etc. take your time guys i panicked in the beginning too but take your time and use this write up its really plug and play.

Sorry, I wanted to give it a couple days to make sure. My solution as ridiculous as it sounds was repeatedly plugging and unplugging and a lil' jiggling.

I also found the lights flicker when I jiggled when the ignition was on. That gave me the impression that it wasn't a bad MID.

I did check to see if the MID cable would be long enough to stretch without cutting and extending but no dice. The MID cable is very much on the left side.

I may have posted on bimmerforums but my heart is squarely at Xoutpost ;)

Hi,

I have a problem after installing the rear view camera. When I put the car in reverse, I need to change the source manually to TV to see the reversing video. Also sometimes the screen says NO Signal, sometimes it works. Also the camera is not capturing good image, I can see frames scrolling continuously and flickering on the screen. My car is 2003 BMW X5.

Can anyone please let me know how to automatically shift to reverse video when the car is in Reverse gear? Also why it keeps loosing the signal? I have two RCA cables running from HL to camera (one was for backup), both have same issues, so cable is not a problem here. I tried changing camera as well but same result. So thinking if it is something with main HL unit itself or what. And any solution for the slow frame rate please?

My camera is also purchased from HL: BMW series-Bmw Car dvd player,Mercedes-Benz navigation,Suzuki dvd,Audi Navigation System,Subaru car audio

I have mounted the camera on one of the license plate bulb and and more serious problem is odometer dash shows a message to check the license plate light.

When reading in this thread: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...amera-e53.html, post: http://www.xoutpost.com/317974-post5.html the guy is talking about the resistor to the cameras power supply. Do anyone know what is that register and how it will help me to get rid of the dash error message?

Thanks,
Shurap1

No problem at all 440films and thanks for coming back and sharing that info. Hopefully this will be solved with the new DSP kit that is now being sold by allinmotion.ca. I have requested for them to put some pictures of it on their website so that customers know exactly what is in the kit. My understanding is that it includes an extension harness for the MID so no more cutting!

I hope they consider selling the kit separately because it would be useful with any aftermarket radio, not just Hualingan.

They also offer an option for an external mic. Which eliminates another issue with the regular Hualingan. It seems that things just keep getting better and better for these units every day.

Did you know that the reverse connection is pulsed? If not, do a search for how to deal with it. Basically you will need to get a relay. I know that is not very helpful but this has been covered many times. Please search for "reverse relay".

Hi NextGen

I checked my original unit. It is not a DSP ( as no word DSP on my unit).

Thanks,

Not having DSP is a good thing in this situation. I don't ever recall anyone having to change the wiring harness for the ipod adapter. More than likely you have a bad unit. Your installer should have checked it before cutting your bracket and putting it in the dash. Neither Hualingan nor Dynavin has earned our confidence that they have good quality control in place.

Have your iinstaller connect another radio to your harness and see if any sound come out. If it does, then more than likely you have a bad unit. Where did you purchase it?

I had no time to put the backup camera DIY up on this post. I will eventually do it. So, I can answer some questions.
I think you connected to the wrong input. Hualingan comes with video input and the backup camera input (labeled Back). Connect it to the wire labeled "Back" and it should work.
The error message is probably expected since the new light is LED. I guess you need to cancel that with a resistor.

I agree with NextGen although I haven't seen a broken Hualingan yet but it's possible and that's an easy way to check if the audio amp is still working. The other thing you should check if the original radio works, check the power antenna voltage and let us know. I suspect that the amp is not turning on.

Hi NextGen:

Thank you so much for the reply and big help. It was given to me as a gift by a good friend. He bought it in ebay. He passed to me the selle'rs email address and I was asking for the diagram and the seller is helpful and email to me the diagram.

Hi fmgur:

Thanks for the inputs. Appreciate it. Will have it check and will advise how it goes.

Thanks