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cn90 07-08-2019 11:41 PM

I did this mod and it works great, zero oil consumption, so no complaints.

Question re decommissioned system...

1. I leave the Oil Trap alone b/c it is not sucking any oil or any air (I blocked the end of the hose where it joins the valve cover).
So is it OK to leave the Oil Trap in there "forever"?

2. The Return Hose ---> Dipstick Housing, this hose can break with time but since the Oil Trap is decommissioned, is there any harm of ignoring this hose? Let's say it is broken but you ignore it, any issues?

geobrick 07-22-2019 02:02 PM

Status Update
 
I've got 2,228 miles on the car after the CVV removal and it looks like the oil's down about a 1/4qt.

I still haven't replaced the valve cover gasket which I suspect has a leak. I don't see any oil on the ground yet but I do smell burning oil in the cabin after long periods of highway speeds at about 70mph (after exiting the highway or slowing in traffic). That could be a contributor to the 1/4qt drop. Either way it's a huge improvement over what it was before removing the CVV.

Xelo 09-11-2019 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runnermedic (Post 1144262)
found this mini cooper plugs,probably they fit the m54 intake.


Hi, for those interested, part # is:
11617596034


What do you guys think about this (clever, but fancy) variant:
https://www.germanautosolutions.com/...ct_m54_ccv.php

cn90 09-11-2019 06:16 PM

- The modification I posted previously works just fine for a cost of $30 for parts.

- To plug existing system hoses: as long as you have some rubber material to plug any factory open hoses, it is OK. The idea is to de-commission the factory PCV system.

Xelo 09-12-2019 02:40 PM

CN90, could you please be more specific as to how you've plugged this original open ends of the CCV hoses (marked with big red arrows)?

As we know, open end as female - meaning you had to insert something into them, but how did you make sure it is tight/snug ?


Thanks !



https://i.ibb.co/HHKmmmJ/E53-CCV-Mod-11.jpg

Xelo 09-18-2019 07:18 AM

Hello again,

I am planning to do this modification also (including a catch can) but after days of studying I've stumbled upon one issue that has not been adressed (or addressed too little).

There are 2 versions for any PCV system: open and closed.
Open ones are venting the blowby gases to atmosphere, closed ones (as in this case for the M54s) are venting the "filtered" air back into the engine through the intake manifold.

Now comes problem #1: this "filtered" air is not measured .

MAF measures air coming through the intake manifold, but the one coming back from the valve cover through this modification is routed back into the IM AFTER the MAF (through distribution cover) - so there is a surplus of air going to the cylinders, although the ECU has measured less and O2 sensors will measure more.

This will cause crazy fuel trims.

Any schematic of closed PCV system on the net is described as having a venting hose coming from the air filter (so metered air) which allows the crankcase to breath.

See examples below:

https://i.ibb.co/k2L3Vv3/0900c1528003a1a8.gif
https://i.ibb.co/2gBXK2x/2016-06-15-...25-640x427.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/ynPJWXm/MKvDS.gif
https://i.ibb.co/FB3czDZ/po-boy.jpg


Returning to the case of M54 engines: OE system does not have a supplementary/aditional valve cover breather as I remember. The only port of the VC is the one going to the CCV.

So this raises so many questions:
1) Why does the OE M54 CCV system does not have a breather allowing the crankcase to draw air from the intake
2) Would this breather be a good idea as it still allows vacuum but also protect engine seals ?
3) Where would the best connection for a breather be ? I have heard a case where the guy connected a hose from the vacuum F connector in the intake boot to the oil dipstick. If so, would this need a non-return valve (for the improbable case oil from the crankcase/oil pan would come up and flood the intake) ?




My take on this:


https://i.ibb.co/4VmhM8h/planning-M54-CCV-delete.png

80stech 09-18-2019 11:38 AM

Good for you for trying to think things through :) and you are justified having some concerns, but you have some errors in your information. One big problem is that you don't have a diagram of the factory CCCV system. A CCCV system is NOT a closed PCV system. Also, I think it would be good if you started a new thread on this. :)

Xelo 09-19-2019 06:21 AM

Umm, sorry, but could you please me more specific about the errors ?
My drawing explicits exactly what you guys are talking about for some time: transforming the CCV into a PCV.

trentcdrums 09-24-2019 01:13 PM

OP - is that a clutch fan or electric fan?

trentcdrums 09-25-2019 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $chlitz (Post 1097931)
Where the heck are you guys finding the little plastic plugs like the one used to plug the black plastic air distribution runner? I went to Autozone, Advance and Harbor Freight and found nothing. Plenty of vacuum caps, which would work for the dipstick tube, but that isn't going to work to plug the hole. Frankly, I'm tired of running all over town...

i finally found something similar ---
https://www.ebay.com/itm/16-Piece-Ca...72.m2749.l2649


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