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juicer 06-20-2008 08:05 PM

Brent, I understand that "you" are trying to resolve this for all concerned.
But frankly, "you" are a face and voice for Stebro here - so don't get defensive when people voice their views and concerns directly at you.

I believe that posting the chain of events and all comms would indeed give everyone the "full picture" to which they can make up their own minds. I prefer to not waste my time and keep tings private, however if Stebro do not fulfill their written agreement with myself and others, I will indeed do so.

I received your PM and responded to the off topic issues as well.

Kind Regards

Chris

Denalio 06-20-2008 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stebro PSD
I love these comments from those that don’t know what is going on behind the seen and what I have offered to do. That is between those who actually ordered a Stebro product and the shop/office. The whole story has not been told.

If I recall you bashed our product and then offered to buy it at a reduced rate??? What is that all about??? and my comment was why go through all the dramas just asked for a cheaper rate....if you don’t like the Stebro presence her don't read the posts......

Your are making this personal and there is no need to do this, I have done EVERYTHING in my power to get the powers to be off their asses and make this right.

That's at outright Lie!!! Your recollection couldn't be further from the TRUTH. I did not ask for a reduced rate. As a matter of fact you contacted me asking me if I would be interested in buying a system at a substantial discount and give it a review. I declined because all of the negative feed back from other disatified and angry cutomers in other forums and reviews. So don't give me your crap. You come on to a public forum with your snake oil promises and can do. You did not deliver what you promised period. If you choose the public forum as a vehicle to market your product you should expect people to talk and exchange information, positive or negative.This is just another excuse for you to cry foul. Your actions speak for themselve. You have worn out your stay here as far as I am concerned. One up for X5 World's members for exposing another shark. Your busted, unfortunately it was at the expense of trusting Enthusiasts and for that I am sorry.


Here's the mesage:
E70 Exhaust
Hey,

I know there has been concern about the QC and CS in the past. I am willing, if you are seroius about getting a system, to sell it to you for (and one other X5 World member) for $1200.00 + shipping. Provided you give us an honest review. Let me know....

Brent

Krunk Man 06-21-2008 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denalio
Here's the mesage:
E70 Exhaust
Hey,

I know there has been concern about the QC and CS in the past. I am willing, if you are seroius about getting a system, to sell it to you for (and one other X5 World member) for $1200.00 + shipping. Provided you give us an honest review. Let me know....

Brent

;owned; :fired: :tribe:

Stebro PSD 06-21-2008 12:35 AM

JUICER.

Quote:

Originally Posted by juicer
Brent, I understand that "you" are trying to resolve this for all concerned.

THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THIS.....

But frankly, "you" are a face and voice for Stebro here - so don't get defensive when people voice their views and concerns directly at you.

YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THAT BUT I DO TAKE EXCEPTION WHEN SOMEONE TAKES A SHOT AT ME SAYING I RIPPED THEM OR YOU OFF THAT IS THE FARTHEST FROM THE TRUTH. THEY HAVE TO BECAREFUL WHAT THEY SAY AND WHO ITS DIRECTED TO....THOSE SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE COMPANY AS AN ENTITY NOT INDIVIDUALS. YES I AM THE VOICE FOR STEBRO BUT I AM NOT THE CONTROLING FORCE. IF I GET GROUPED IN AS PART OF THE COMPANY THATS FINE BTU I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT RIPPED ANYONE OFF<<<<THIS IS MY LEGAL BACKGROUND TALKING.....

I believe that posting the chain of events and all comms would indeed give everyone the "full picture" to which they can make up their own minds. I prefer to not waste my time and keep tings private, however if Stebro do not fulfill their written agreement with myself and others, I will indeed do so.

I THINK THE FULL PICTURE IS VERY CLEAR BY NOW....

I received your PM and responded to the off topic issues as well.

SAME AS I HOPE TO HAVE THIS SETTLED BY MONDAY OUR TIME. TUESDAY YOURS (IF I AM CORRECT WITH THE TIME DIFFERENCE)

Kind Regards

Chris


Stebro PSD 06-21-2008 12:48 AM

WHERE IS THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION??? I HAVE THE REST BUT WONT POST "PRAVATE" MESSAGES ON THE "PUBLIC" FORUM AS I RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY AND EXPECT THE SAME FROM YOU......END OF DISCUSSION.....

YOUR RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING I DO EXPECT PEOPLE TO EXCHANGE INFORMATION AND I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THAT STEBRO DID NOT COME THROUGH WITH WHAT I PROMISED THIS IS WHY I AM BUSTING MY ASS TO FIX THIS FOR THOSE THAT ACTUALLY PAID.....I PERSONALLY FEEL BAD ABOUT ALL OF THIS....I AM DOING MY BEST BEHIND THE THE SEEN TO MAKE IT RIGHT.....


Quote:

Originally Posted by Denalio
That's at outright Lie!!! Your recollection couldn't be further from the TRUTH. I did not ask for a reduced rate. As a matter of fact you contacted me asking me if I would be interested in buying a system at a substantial discount and give it a review. I declined because all of the negative feed back from other disatified and angry cutomers in other forums and reviews. So don't give me your crap. You come on to a public forum with your snake oil promises and can do. You did not deliver what you promised period. If you choose the public forum as a vehicle to market your product you should expect people to talk and exchange information, positive or negative.This is just another excuse for you to cry foul. Your actions speak for themselve. You have worn out your stay here as far as I am concerned. One up for X5 World's members for exposing another shark. Your busted, unfortunately it was at the expense of trusting Enthusiasts and for that I am sorry.


Here's the mesage:
E70 Exhaust
Hey,

I know there has been concern about the QC and CS in the past. I am willing, if you are seroius about getting a system, to sell it to you for (and one other X5 World member) for $1200.00 + shipping. Provided you give us an honest review. Let me know....

Brent


Denalio 06-21-2008 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stebro PSD
WHERE IS THE REST OF THE CONVERSATION??? I HAVE THE REST BUT WONT POST "PRAVATE" MESSAGES ON THE "PUBLIC" FORUM AS I RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY AND EXPECT THE SAME FROM YOU......END OF DISCUSSION.....

YOUR RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING I DO EXPECT PEOPLE TO EXCHANGE INFORMATION AND I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY THAT STEBRO DID NOT COME THROUGH WITH WHAT I PROMISED THIS IS WHY I AM BUSTING MY ASS TO FIX THIS FOR THOSE THAT ACTUALLY PAID.....I PERSONALLY FEEL BAD ABOUT ALL OF THIS....I AM DOING MY BEST BEHIND THE THE SEEN TO MAKE IT RIGHT.....

Post it please. I would like to see it. You can't cause it does not exist !! Like I said this is a public forum and you are selling something. Stebro is making promises it can not keep and I am just letting members know what transpired during my encounter with Stebro. You acuse me of somenthing I did not do. I am just backing up my position with facts. Like I said in previous post I know you are trying this is a Stebro issue. It is too bad they will not allow you to fufill your committments and promises.

Denalio 06-21-2008 06:31 AM

Sorry to hijack this thread juicer. Back to more important issues. I hope you get your money back.

pelican 06-22-2008 03:25 AM

WOW !! Handbags at dawn ladies......

Stebro, simple lesson to learn here, if the product is not up to scratch DO NOT ship it out the door.... as you know what will happen.... it's called the internet, and, word of mouth.....

I was tempted to buy one of your exhausts, until I saw this thread.... I don't really care, if you struggled to get the product out.... If you are positioning yourselves ( Setbro that is) as a high quality, high end, premium exhaust system, then why send crap out the door ?? Does Stebro have a Quality Control system in place ?? It could have saved an awful lot of pain and suffering for both sides of the equation.....

Just, my two cents, but, hey, what do I know ?? just a stupid customer...... NOT.....

DEETZ 06-22-2008 03:58 AM

I have never liked this product from the moment I saw the pictures. I paid for my ACS full system (remus) including the racing tailpipes for less than USD2500. Why bother trying on a system that none knows?

Krunk Man 06-22-2008 04:32 AM

deetz, lets see some pics of your whip.


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