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Penguin 02-16-2010 12:15 AM

BMW appears to have gotten smart on one thing... no more CD/DVD changer in the Premium sound package. It appears they substituted Sirius radio and the Ipod interface for the changer. If they had this option for the 2010, I would have ordered it. But having no use for a CD changer, $1,800 seemed a tad high for the improved sound.

sheikh36 02-16-2010 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM71 (Post 713121)
Looks like no performance package (7RR). I bet they don't play that card until next year.

Heated steering wheel appears to be available with M sport package though.

:(Sad they did not offer it...but again not having the option saves me 1500 as I would not have been able to resist...as for the jet vs sapphire...Im lazy so sapphire it is....

BGM 02-16-2010 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgaX5 (Post 713111)
Ah, the old Jet Black vs. Black Sapphire debate. Comes down to personal taste and willingness to deal with cleaning more often.

Yep this has been beat to death. Jet Black has a mirror finish--Sapphire is more milky. To me, there is no lazy man's black--you have to be dedicated to maintaining it. If you don't, you will hate either one. I always roll Jet Black---just has a deeper shine.

apw2607 02-16-2010 01:03 AM

Boo ... No active cruise on the 35d :-(

something tells me that if diesel sales continue the way they have being, we will see the 40d perhaps Sep 2010 and new tech like active cruise on it.

alexmish 02-16-2010 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM71 (Post 713121)
Heated steering wheel appears to be available with M sport package though.

What makes you think so? The ZCW for M-package is $150 less than for non-M, clear indicator of no heated steering wheel...

AwesomeM3 02-16-2010 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmish (Post 713227)
What makes you think so? The ZCW for M-package is $150 less than for non-M, clear indicator of no heated steering wheel...

:iagree:

The heated steering wheel wasn't available whgen I built my M Sport :( ...the ZCW was $150 less at that time also.

JM71 02-16-2010 11:28 AM

Agree now that I have read the pricing more closely (:

nynd 02-16-2010 01:19 PM

Speaking of steering wheels, is the "M-Sport" wheel the same as that in the X5M or more like the normal sport version with the added "M" logo?

zalzala 02-16-2010 01:30 PM

where are invoice pricing, and also 35i pricing. did i miss the show?

Mr.Impatient 02-16-2010 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgaX5 (Post 713008)
Hey Guys,
Just got back from placing order...sure enough, Jet black is a special order and not available yet. Ours will be third week of April for June arrival. It was a bit of a whirlwind and I wasn't able to really go through the ordering guide with prices, but here's what I do remember:

Xdrive 35i Premium - Comes with Style 334 19" Wheels, which I haven't seen in person
Tech Package - $3,100 (2010 was $2,600)
Comfort Access - $1000
Multi-Contour Seats - $1300
Sirius- $350
Convenience - $2000 (i think)

We lost the Holiday Credit by passing on the 2010 we previously ordered, but the final and the MSRP of the 2011 was almost $2000 more than the 2010 equipped with the same options. So it looks like it cost me $4500 + whatever less favorable lease rates I'm expecting to go to the N55 & 8-speed auto from the XDrive 30. It hurts, but I think I would have been really unhappy had we taken delivery of that car. At least my CA is honoring our $1000 over invoice deal.

If anyone has actual pics of 19" style 334 wheels, please post! I've seen the ones in the ordering guide for Europe and they look alright to me.

:wtf: How were you able to order already?

zalzala 02-16-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 08X5 (Post 713030)
2011 US Order Guide. It shows no M Package for the Diesel. Can they install the M Exterior Parts at the Port ?

thanks. i dont see invoice and 35i prices here

sheikh36 02-16-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 713351)
:wtf: How were you able to order already?

Ordering is open.I finalized my order on saturday.

mulvs 02-16-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 713366)
thanks. i dont see invoice and 35i prices here

35i pricing from my dealer, sorry no invoice pricing

pgaX5 02-16-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 713351)
:wtf: How were you able to order already?

Better call your CA! Dealers have the ordering guide and pricing. They won't have lease rates until late March most likely. I pray they don't put the hammer down on us, the early takers.

rh71 02-16-2010 07:18 PM

That M sport package w/ adaptive drive and 20s & bodykit, etc. for $4800 seems worth it to me... though base price at $60k then would seem a bit steep. They require you to take the sports activity... it just seems like there are waaaaay too many options now, and some have pre-reqs... what a headache. I'd imagine the CAs would have to do their homework on this but I wouldn't trust them to know everything. ;)

bigx5er 02-16-2010 08:15 PM

OK, so if I understand this correctly, the xDrive35i Premium includes:

ZAV Active vent. seat package (P1)
ZCV Convenience Package
ZCW Cold Weather Package
ZTP Technology Package

That is $52,475.

I can then throw on:

677 Premium hi-fi system for $1200
655 Satellite radio with 1 year subscription $350
300 Space-saver spare $150
496 Heated rear seats $350

And I am at $54,525?

I could take the hit on gas at that price (minus a nice discount). Pretty solid new pricing!

Please tell me I am wrong -- must not email dealer -- help!

BGM 02-16-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mulvs (Post 713424)
35i pricing from my dealer, sorry no invoice pricing

Interesting on the 35i---you can get the M Sport with 20's but the Sport pack that is available on the 50i you can't get on the 35i.

alexmish 02-16-2010 09:19 PM

Looks like the 3.5i Sports Activity comes with 20" 214s !

rosmoss 02-16-2010 09:37 PM

Ordering 50i Tomorrow!!
 
Carbon black on cinnamon in case anyone was interested.

2 questions:

1) Will the LED corona rings be offered on North American units the CDN product ordering guide talks about LEDs at the rear only.

2) What does Priority 1 mean (sorry of this has been answered)

BGM 02-16-2010 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmish (Post 713511)
Looks like the 3.5i Sports Activity comes with 20" 214s !

Ooops you are right-- I see it at the bottom now.

BGM 02-16-2010 10:05 PM

If the M Sport Pack is exactly (including exhaust tips) the same between the 35i and 50i I am now having a hard time deciding if I like a white 35i with M Sport Pack or Jet Black 50i with the 336 wheels (can't justify the extra $$$ of a 50i with M Sport).

alexmish 02-16-2010 10:17 PM

It seems to me that 3.5i, even with the Sport Activity, is priced cheaper (roughly $4500 less) than outgoing 4.8 when you add up all "absolutely necessary" options... And it gets the same 0-60 as 4.8, with better fuel economy and smaller engine. Looks like I know what I will be doing this December... (waiting for the build :))

pgaX5 02-16-2010 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigx5er (Post 713491)
OK, so if I understand this correctly, the xDrive35i Premium includes:

ZAV Active vent. seat package (P1)
ZCV Convenience Package
ZCW Cold Weather Package
ZTP Technology Package

That is $52,475.

I can then throw on:

677 Premium hi-fi system for $1200
655 Satellite radio with 1 year subscription $350
300 Space-saver spare $150
496 Heated rear seats $350

And I am at $54,525?

I could take the hit on gas at that price (minus a nice discount). Pretty solid new pricing!

Please tell me I am wrong -- must not email dealer -- help!


Sorry to be the one to tell you, but you're wrong. By opting for the Premium, you can then order ZAV, ZCV (which you can on the base model, but with slightly less content), ZCW, and ZTP. I don't have the pricing sheet in front of me, but I'm guessing that your MSRP would be around $59K if you added all of the above to the Premium model.

bigx5er 02-16-2010 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgaX5 (Post 713558)
Sorry to be the one to tell you, but you're wrong. By opting for the Premium, you can then order ZAV, ZCV (which you can on the base model, but with slightly less content), ZCW, and ZTP. I don't have the pricing sheet in front of me, but I'm guessing that your MSRP would be around $59K if you added all of the above to the Premium model.

Thank you. I read the press release incorrectly. Now I feel much better about the deal I got on my 2010 35d.

LeMansX5 02-16-2010 11:51 PM

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Some close-ups of interior pics. I have very hi-res versions of ones I posted, so if you need to zoom in on any pic let me know. ;)

zalzala 02-17-2010 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheikh36 (Post 713402)
Ordering is open.I finalized my order on saturday.

what did u order mr Sheikh?

C's Bimmer 02-17-2010 12:03 AM

My X is so slow now. I need a new one. Hahahaha!

alexmish 02-17-2010 12:07 AM

LeMans, for those ordering the 3.5i Premium, does it come with the regular "non-sport" steering wheel? If so, any way to upgrade to the Sports wheel without having to order 3.5i Sport Activity?

X5 Meister 02-17-2010 01:44 AM

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LeMans you ARE the FREAKING MAN! Great shot. Now please tell me, what is that last button for on the console (next to the Tailgate Open button)???


Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 713565)
Some close-ups of interior pics. I have very hi-res versions of ones I posted, so if you need to zoom in on any pic let me know. ;)


rh71 02-17-2010 01:54 AM

^ looks like the camera to me. Top View perhaps? On current models the parking sensor button automatically activates the rear-camera.

zalzala 02-17-2010 01:58 AM

what should we expect or bmw projects mpg on 50i vs 35i?

X5 Meister 02-17-2010 02:01 AM

Me too, and someone speculated on this before. I don't know how top view is activated so I'm curious to hear from LeMans or someone that has it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rh71 (Post 713613)
^ looks like the camera to me. Top View perhaps? On current models the parking sensor button automatically activates the rear-camera.


ChuckG 02-17-2010 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 713619)
Me too, and someone speculated on this before. I don't know how top view is activated so I'm curious to hear from LeMans or someone that has it.

Top View is activated any time you shift into reverse or when you push the Park Distance Control button on the left. When you are in Top View if you push down on the iDrive knob you get the rear view. That is how it works on my 2010 X5 35D.

Chuck

X5 Meister 02-17-2010 02:28 AM

Great to know. So a separate button isn't really necessary then.?

Update: Got it. It's Side View!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckG (Post 713620)
Top View is activated any time you shift into reverse or when you push the Park Distance Control button on the left. When you are in Top View if you push down on the iDrive knob you get the rear view. That is how it works on my 2010 X5 35D.

Chuck


CarsRmyVICE 02-17-2010 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 713617)
what should we expect or bmw projects mpg on 50i vs 35i?

If you drive like me 12 in the 50I and 16 in the 35I haha but with a soft foot you can surely do better...look on the x6 forums to gauge what is possible with the tt8 ...my guess is the difference in mpgs for most would be 4mpg give or take a few.

sheikh36 02-17-2010 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 713574)
what did u order mr Sheikh?

I ordered a saphire black 5.0 with Cinnamon Brown Interior, Premium Package,sport activity package (336 wheels),cold weather, Rear Climate,Tech Package, comfort access, Running boards, Roof Rails,comfort seats,Third Row Seats....
Now I have to find a hobby to keep me busy for the next 3-4 months untill it gets here! :yawn:

BayernJoe 02-17-2010 10:19 AM

I'm a newbie to the boards and I'm hoping to purchase my first X5 as soon as the 2011 model starts shipping. Before I make the decision to get the 2011 I did have a couple questions.

Based on the US price guide it seems that the style 214 wheels will not be available for the xDrive50i. Is that the case or have I misread? I cannot say that I am a fan of the style 336s and paying the hefty premium for the style 128s or style 215s seems absurd.

When configuring the 2010 X5 on bmwusa.com, if you select the nappa leather ($2400 option) it also selects the nappa leather for the dash and center console ($1900 option) but it doesn't add the latter to your MSRP. I suppose it is bundled in the original nappa leather option. Will that also be the case for the 2011?

Thanks for all of the great information that I have been able to find so far!

nynd 02-17-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 713607)
LeMans you ARE the FREAKING MAN! Great shot. Now please tell me, what is that last button for on the console (next to the Tailgate Open button)???

Most likely - side view front cameras (left / right from fenders).

alexmish 02-17-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynd (Post 713749)
Most likely - side view front cameras (left / right from fenders).

I also think this is the side-view camera... Strange the location of the button - reaching down under to press would be distractive to driving IMHO

X5 Meister 02-17-2010 11:05 AM

Yep, figured it out. Post 234 above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynd (Post 713749)
Most likely - side view front cameras (left / right from fenders).


zalzala 02-17-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheikh36 (Post 713720)
I ordered a saphire black 5.0 with Cinnamon Brown Interior, Premium Package,sport activity package (336 wheels),cold weather, Rear Climate,Tech Package, comfort access, Running boards, Roof Rails,comfort seats,Third Row Seats....
Now I have to find a hobby to keep me busy for the next 3-4 months untill it gets here! :yawn:

wow! great combo. When is car coming, and if you would not mind sharing your pricing and details with us please.

sheikh36 02-17-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 713916)
wow! great combo. When is car coming, and if you would not mind sharing your pricing and details with us please.

Its his first build so Im hoping end april...I didnt ask about timeline (I should have)...as for pricing...Im in a situation where the dealer is righting a previous wrong so the pricing will not be relevant to anyone negotiating a deal....what is relevant is that by doing the deal the dealership has proven they are very honorable and will get my and anyone I can refer's business in the future... :D

Rez 02-17-2010 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheikh36 (Post 714111)
Its his first build so Im hoping end april...I didnt ask about timeline (I should have)...as for pricing...Im in a situation where the dealer is righting a previous wrong so the pricing will not be relevant to anyone negotiating a deal....what is relevant is that by doing the deal the dealership has proven they are very honorable and will get my and anyone I can refer's business in the future... :D

Which dealer is that?

LeMansX5 02-17-2010 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheikh36 (Post 713720)
I ordered a saphire black 5.0 with Cinnamon Brown Interior, Premium Package,sport activity package (336 wheels),cold weather, Rear Climate,Tech Package, comfort access, Running boards, Roof Rails,comfort seats,Third Row Seats....
Now I have to find a hobby to keep me busy for the next 3-4 months until it gets here! :yawn:

Who told you that it will take 3-4 months? Dealers will have LCI X5 by 3rd to 4th week of April.

LeMansX5 02-17-2010 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayernJoe (Post 713738)
I'm a newbie to the boards and I'm hoping to purchase my first X5 as soon as the 2011 model starts shipping. Before I make the decision to get the 2011 I did have a couple questions.

Based on the US price guide it seems that the style 214 wheels will not be available for the xDrive50i. Is that the case or have I misread? I cannot say that I am a fan of the style 336s and paying the hefty premium for the style 128s or style 215s seems absurd.

That seems to be the case. You can work something with your dealer. Depending on your relationship with the dealer they can accommodate you with 214 wheels as there is always somebody else who likes style 336 wheels. I am sure there are some members here who will swap the wheels with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayernJoe (Post 713738)
When configuring the 2010 X5 on bmwusa.com, if you select the nappa leather ($2400 option) it also selects the nappa leather for the dash and center console ($1900 option) but it doesn't add the latter to your MSRP. I suppose it is bundled in the original nappa leather option. Will that also be the case for the 2011?

Thanks for all of the great information that I have been able to find so far!

Check with your dealer. I will not use 2010 X5 configurator at this time.

LeMansX5 02-17-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 713627)
Great to know. So a separate button isn't really necessary then.?

Update: Got it. It's Side View!

:thumbup: More info


sheikh36 02-18-2010 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rez (Post 714163)
Which dealer is that?

Bobby Rahal BMW in Canonsburgh Pa, a suburb of Pittsburgh....Ask for Dwight Woodside who is the CA, or Paul Rahal who is the sales manager...If you tell them you were refered from X-Outpost they will know who sent u...great guys as far as I'm Concerned...Honorable which is not easy to find in a dealer.....and they know people here on X-outpost and Bimmerfest are very well informed so will accomodate you as far as they can....as for Le Mans...My bad...I counted wrong...It should be here by Mid to end April as you said..:D.

CarsRmyVICE 02-18-2010 12:57 AM

SO....I have been wondering...when will we be able to configure a 2011 on the bmwusa website? I understand it is hard to say for sure but I was curious if Lemans or any other long time bmw enthusiast could venture an estimation based on past experience..I realize that little remains to be seen but I like to build my bimmers on the site first haha creature of habbit :D

LeMansX5 02-18-2010 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarsRmyVICE (Post 714239)
SO....I have been wondering...when will we be able to configure a 2011 on the bmwusa website? I understand it is hard to say for sure but I was curious if Lemans or any other long time bmw enthusiast could venture an estimation based on past experience..I realize that little remains to be seen but I like to build my bimmers on the site first haha creature of habbit :D

More than a month away based on past experience. World premiere is just 2 weeks away at Geneva. My guess is they will wait till US debut at NY auto show.

SiliconValleyDriver 02-18-2010 10:17 AM

Side Camera and Deep Ocean Blue "greyed out"
 
Has anyone been able to order their 2011 X5 with the side camera or with Deep Ocean Blue? My CA told me that they were greyed out in the BMW ordering system.

Thanks!

CarsRmyVICE 02-18-2010 12:15 PM

Lemans thank you for the response to my question above. So I had the x in to the stealer...I mean dealer haha just kidding for a front wheel bearing replacement (warranty covered) and I came across a stunning x5m in silverstone metallic. I have always loved the color particularly on the m3, but this is my first time seeing it on the x. Im in love with it. Can this color be optioned with the M package on a "regular" x or must I pray no one buys this one and I can get it at discount in a couple months? :rofl:

zalzala 02-18-2010 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiliconValleyDriver (Post 714345)
Has anyone been able to order their 2011 X5 with the side camera or with Deep Ocean Blue? My CA told me that they were greyed out in the BMW ordering system.

Thanks!

I never understood, priority one options, colors etc, how it effects delivery/order..any one?

Mr.Impatient 02-18-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarsRmyVICE (Post 714389)
Lemans thank you for the response to my question above. So I had the x in to the stealer...I mean dealer haha just kidding for a front wheel bearing replacement (warranty covered) and I came across a stunning x5m in silverstone metallic. I have always loved the color particularly on the m3, but this is my first time seeing it on the x. Im in love with it. Can this color be optioned with the M package on a "regular" x or must I pray no one buys this one and I can get it at discount in a couple months? :rofl:

In the 2010 ordering, you could only order silverstione metallic on the actual M model. There was a similar titanium silver for the M sport pkg, but it was not the same. As I recall, it didn't have the same blueish tint in the sunlight that silverstone has. Probably the same thing for 2011 M-sport pkg.

AwesomeM3 02-18-2010 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 714471)
In the 2010 ordering, you could only order silverstione metallic on the actual M model. There was a similar titanium silver for the M sport pkg, but it was not the same. As I recall, it didn't have the same blueish tint in the sunlight that silverstone has. Probably the same thing for 2011 M-sport pkg.

:iagree:

Silverstone is an M exclusive color, so I don't think it will be available on the 2011 X5. It definitely has a blueish tint...I prefer Titanium Silver over Silverstone.

CarsRmyVICE 02-18-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwesomeM3 (Post 714489)
Silverstone is an M exclusive color, so I don't think it will be available on the 2011 X5. It definitely has a blueish tint...I prefer Titanium Silver over Silverstone.

Shoot! lol I like the blue tint:( Thanks for the response guys.:thumbup: As I recall this x5m has been at my dealer since it came out... maybe there's a good deal to be had on it shortly.

zalzala 02-18-2010 04:09 PM

Silverstone is an M exclusive color, so I don't think it will be available on the 2011 X5. It definitely has a blueish tint...I prefer Titanium Silver over Silverstone.[/QUOTE]
Shoot! lol I like the blue tint:( Thanks for the response guys.:thumbup: As I recall this x5m has been at my dealer since it came out... maybe there's a good deal to be had on it shortly.[/QUOTE]
I love that color too, if possible on a 3 series too..lol

autoque 02-19-2010 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarsRmyVICE (Post 714389)
So I had the x in to the stealer...for a front wheel bearing replacement (warranty covered)

What were you experiencing that needed a wheel bearing replacement?

CarsRmyVICE 02-19-2010 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autoque (Post 714752)
What were you experiencing that needed a wheel bearing replacement?

A grinding noise coming from the front passenger side. I initially thought it was just my worn tires but after getting new rubbers the noise persisted. Then I began to think bearing. Same thing happened on a chevy equinox I use to have. My dealer put it on the lift and couldn't find anything, then drove it and decided it was a bearing. Replaced in a few hours! Meanwhile I was sitting in the showroom floor x5m pulling the paddles making noises with my lips like vrmmmm.:p:

bmwhype 02-20-2010 05:15 AM

will there be an Orient Blue?

LeMansX5 02-20-2010 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwhype (Post 715212)
will there be an Orient Blue?

nope

zalzala 02-21-2010 02:05 AM

when will we see invoices?

LeMansX5 02-21-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 715481)
when will we see invoices?

They are out already.

sheikh36 02-21-2010 12:04 PM

But Noone wants to share :(

zalzala 02-21-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 715544)
They are out already.

so why it is not posted here unfortunately.

We can not order without it unfortunately.

LeMansX5 02-21-2010 06:06 PM

Its not that difficult to workout the invoice if you have the retail price. Markup percentages are almost the same from previous year. Use a spreadsheet and the 2010 invoice price and apply the % for new items.

Base invoice price is 8% less than suggested retail price rounded off.
e.g. xDrive50i retail price is $59,275 and 8% less of that is $54,333 rounded off to $54,350 being the invoice. ;)

Fraser 02-22-2010 03:18 AM

Does anyone else find it interesting that BMW comes out with a tweaked 35d and calls it 40d, but does a far more significant rework of the 35i but still calls it a 35i?

And as someone (Penguin?) mentioned back earlier in this thread, do we really need eight speeds? Sounds more like oneupmanship on Mercedes Benz to me.

rh71 02-22-2010 08:45 AM

^ well the 35i only existed in the X6 but they're not using the N54 anymore so I am a bit surprised there's no acknowledgement of that.

alexmish 02-22-2010 10:33 AM

So the 3.5i will have the same 0-60 as the outgoing 4.8, which is 6.4 seconds... Not, 4.8 has 350hp@350lb/ft engine, while 3.5i has 300hp@300lb/ft engine... Some one please explain to me how they managed to get the same 0-60 with less powerful engine... Does the new 8-gear tranny have anything to do with that?

I have N54 in my 335, it is a powerful engine, N55 is a bit faster on achieving hp/torque by 0.5 second...

Can't wait to drive it (the 3.5i)...

BGM 02-22-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmish (Post 715893)
So the 3.5i will have the same 0-60 as the outgoing 4.8, which is 6.4 seconds... Not, 4.8 has 350hp@350lb/ft engine, while 3.5i has 300hp@300lb/ft engine... Some one please explain to me how they managed to get the same 0-60 with less powerful engine... Does the new 8-gear tranny have anything to do with that?

I have N54 in my 335, it is a powerful engine, N55 is a bit faster on achieving hp/torque by 0.5 second...

Can't wait to drive it (the 3.5i)...

Probably has to do with the Torque Curve on the 3.5i.

zalzala 02-22-2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGM (Post 715921)
Probably has to do with the Torque Curve on the 3.5i.

did bmw release mpg numbers on 35i/n55 yet? or by extrapolation, might be same as 535gt?

alexmish 02-22-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 715980)
did bmw release mpg numbers on 35i/n55 yet? or by extrapolation, might be same as 535gt?

By looking at the fuel consumption for X6 3.5i, I predict the 2011 3.5i will have it in the range of 15-16 / 20-21 mpg.

zalzala 02-22-2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmish (Post 715989)
By looking at the fuel consumption for X6 3.5i, I predict the 2011 3.5i will have it in the range of 15-16 / 20-21 mpg.

but with n55 engine it might be better, more close to 535 gt 2011, presumably at 25mpg?????????????

alexmish 02-22-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 716005)
but with n55 engine it might be better, more close to 535 gt 2011, presumably at 25mpg?????????????

Where are you getting mpg numbers for the 535gt ?

25mpg for this heavy vehicle - we are getting into the hybrid space... :confused:

sheikh36 02-22-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 715481)
when will we see invoices?

Just ordered new 2011 X5 5.0i, have a question about the XAV package. - bimmerfest - BMW Forums


Someone was nice enough to post invoice prices somewhere else....its basically for the options he ordered BUT he ordered most of the options!:thumbup:

LeMansX5 02-22-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 715649)
Its not that difficult to workout the invoice if you have the retail price. Markup percentages are almost the same from previous year. Use a spreadsheet and the 2010 invoice price and apply the % for new items.

Base invoice price is 8% less than suggested retail price rounded off.
e.g. xDrive50i retail price is $59,275 and 8% less of that is $54,333 rounded off to $54,350 being the invoice. ;)

$59,275 minus $875 destination charge=$58,400 less 8% =$53,730 as invoice.

LeMansX5 02-22-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 716005)
but with n55 engine it might be better, more close to 535 gt 2011, presumably at 25mpg?????????????

See official specs with Fuel consumption #s.

X5 Meister 02-22-2010 10:40 PM

13.44 mpg city for the X5 50, ouch.

zalzala 02-22-2010 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 716177)
13.44 mpg city for the X5 50, ouch.

i see litre/100? how u equate to mpg?

X5 Meister 02-22-2010 11:03 PM

17.5 liter/100 km = 0.175 liter/km = 5.714 km/liter

5.714 km/liter x 3.7854 L/gallon = 21.63 km/gallon

21.63 km/gallon x 0.62 km/mile = 13.4mpg

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Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 716180)
i see litre/100? how u equate to mpg?


LeMansX5 02-22-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 716180)
i see litre/100? how u equate to mpg?

Convert MPG to L/100km and l/100 km to MPG Online Calculator

Combined city+highway= 23.29 mpg for N55 35i X5 as compared to 21.19 mpg for N54 35i for X6.

BayernJoe 02-22-2010 11:08 PM

Another great method is to just type the conversion you would like into Google. It converts nearly anything these days.

12.5 liters / 100 kilometers to miles per gallon - Google Search

alexmish 02-22-2010 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 716188)
Convert MPG to L/100km and l/100 km to MPG Online Calculator

Combined city+highway= 23.29 mpg for N55 35i X5 as compared to 21.19 mpg for N54 35i for X6.

Hard to believe.... No way. X6 3.5i is rated 15/20 - see specs on the bmwusa.com. You cant possibly get combined 21.19 with these city/hwy ranges.

Something is wrong with the numbers they posted for X5 3.5i...

BTW, my 335i with N54 is rated at 17/26, and I am averaging 20mpg. And that is for the much much lighter vehicle.

zalzala 02-22-2010 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 716188)
Convert MPG to L/100km and l/100 km to MPG Online Calculator

Combined city+highway= 23.29 mpg for N55 35i X5 as compared to 21.19 mpg for N54 35i for X6.

thanks! I think, I saw 26mpg for 535gt 2011 review. Seems they are same weight and 8 speed.

zalzala 02-22-2010 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmish (Post 716207)
Hard to believe.... No way. X6 3.5i is rated 15/20 - see specs on the bmwusa.com. You cant possibly get combined 21.19 with these city/hwy ranges.

Something is wrong with the numbers they posted for X5 3.5i...

BTW, my 335i with N54 is rated at 17/26, and I am averaging 20mpg. And that is for the much much lighter vehicle.

indeed bu n55 might be better in 335i coupe? what is projected there

CarsRmyVICE 02-23-2010 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 716188)
Convert MPG to L/100km and l/100 km to MPG Online Calculator

Combined city+highway= 23.29 mpg for N55 35i X5 as compared to 21.19 mpg for N54 35i for X6.

Haha maybe with jeeves the butler driving. There no chance anyone who intends to leave the right lane will achieve such numbers.:bustingup

X5 Meister 02-23-2010 12:09 AM

All BMW's are rigorously tested for fuel consumption. The car is driven downhill, with all systems turned off, in a perfect vacuum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarsRmyVICE (Post 716219)
Haha maybe with jeeves the butler driving. There no chance anyone who intends to leave the right lane will achieve such numbers.:bustingup


Fraser 02-23-2010 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 716221)
All BMW's are rigorously tested for fuel consumption. The car is driven downhill, with all systems turned off, in a perfect vacuum.

Same test for everyone. This is not a BMW specific test but EU mandated.

X5 Meister 02-23-2010 01:41 AM

Yes I know. The same useless test that does not reflect real world conditions whatsoever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraser (Post 716255)
Same test for everyone. This is not a BMW specific test but EU mandated.


Fraser 02-23-2010 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 716257)
Yes I know. The same useless test that does not reflect real world conditions whatsoever.

:iagree:

And I suspect over time that the manufacturers have been getting better at achieving a better test result without necessarily getting better real-world figures.

Fraser 02-23-2010 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rh71 (Post 715864)
^ well the 35i only existed in the X6

Also in 1, 3, 5 and 7 Series.

LeMansX5 02-24-2010 09:00 PM

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Some new updates to the BMW.com's X5 microsite:

BMW X5 : Exterior design highlight
Joy cannot be overlooked. Not in the BMW X5 with bi-xenon headlights and front and rear lights with LED technology.

BMW X5 : Interior design highlight
You can measure distances in kilometres or you can measure it in the moments of joy you experience in the luxurious interior of the BMW X5.

BMW X5 : Flexibility highlight
The flexible interior of the BMW X5 can be quickly and easily adapted to meet your personal needs.

BMW X5 : Eight-speed automatic transmission Steptronic highlight
The particularly smooth gear shifts delivered by the new eight-speed automatic transmission in the BMW X5 produce greater engine efficiency at every speed.

BMW X5 : Efficiency highlight
The BMW X5 offers high-performance engines with impressive torque and outstanding efficiency.

BMW X5 : Camera systems highlight
Parking has never been easier. The rear view camera with Top View shows the area behind and on either side of the vehicle on the Control Display.

CarsRmyVICE 02-25-2010 02:00 AM

Not sure I like that picture displaying the side view. An x5 has no place driving on the green!! Bmw marketing lol Maybe if it could read my putts :rofl:

nynd 02-25-2010 10:48 AM

Anyone know if the display screen is the same as in an 2008 or has it been upgraded - ie - larger or more hi res?

BGM 02-25-2010 11:10 AM

I would have to see that Cinnamon Brown in person but it looks too close to that Truffle Brown which is a major yuck in my book.

santo 02-25-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynd (Post 717119)
Anyone know if the display screen is the same as in an 2008 or has it been upgraded - ie - larger or more hi res?

From what I've read, iDrive (with navigation) screens are the same 8.8″ wide display in both old (pre 2010) and new (2010+). The new screen resolution is 1280 x 480 pixels however I'm not sure of the number of colors maybe 32k? The old screen resolution was 640 x 240 pixels @ 256 colors.

Hope this helps.

X5 Meister 02-25-2010 11:58 AM

It's not the one on the new Range Rover and by that omission it sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynd (Post 717119)
Anyone know if the display screen is the same as in an 2008 or has it been upgraded - ie - larger or more hi res?


X5 Meister 02-25-2010 11:59 AM

It's much more red whereas Truffle Brown (which was spectacular IMHO) was more brown and not red at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGM (Post 717126)
I would have to see that Cinnamon Brown in person but it looks too close to that Truffle Brown which is a major yuck in my book.


santo 02-25-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 717140)
It's much more red whereas Truffle Brown (which was spectacular IMHO) was more brown and not red at all.

Is it closer to the now defunct saddle brown?

X5 Meister 02-25-2010 01:45 PM

I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by santo (Post 717163)
Is it closer to the now defunct saddle brown?


LeMansX5 02-25-2010 02:06 PM

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Unbeatable dynamics from launch: M Sports package for the new BMW X5.

  • 25.02.2010
  • Press Release

Munich. The new BMW X5 – set for launch in spring 2010 – now cuts an even more commanding figure with new, even more powerful engines and an extended selection of innovative driver assistance systems. All of which takes the characteristic driving pleasure of the Sports Activity Vehicle into a new dimension. This latest boost to its dynamic capability can be highlighted particularly vividly by the addition of the also new M Sports package, available for the new X5 from launch. A top-quality and perfectly judged combination of exterior, interior and chassis components gives you everything you need to experience the enhanced sports performance of the BMW X5 with even greater intensity – and to showcase it in suitable style.


All the components of the M Sports package for the new BMW X5 have been designed specifically for the Sports Activity Vehicle and are geared precisely to its outstanding dynamic potential. A high-speed setting and the sporty chassis set-up emphasise the high levels of driver involvement offered by the X5, as do the 19-inch M light-alloy wheels in V-spoke design. Available as an option are 20-inch M light-alloy wheels, whose bi-colour double-spoke design and high-sheen spokes lend a particularly exclusive touch. In both cases, the wheels come with mixed tyres at the front and rear, chosen specially for the X5.


The M Sports package also includes special tailpipes for the exhaust system. On the six-cylinder variants, they share the trapezoidal shape standard on the BMW X5 xDrive50i. Available for the new BMW X5 exclusively in conjunction with the M Sports package is the exterior paint shade Carbon Black metallic, which joins five other colour shades in the range.

The M Aerodynamic package and M door sills combine with the BMW Individual Exterior Line side window frames in satin-finish aluminium and the BMW Individual roof rails in satin-finish chrome to create an unmistakable look. The designers took into account the position of the sensors and cameras used by the driver assistance systems when shaping the aerodynamically optimised front and rear aprons. This means that both Park Distance Control and the Side View system – making its debut on the BMW X5 – can be combined with the M Sport package.
Electrically adjustable sports seats for the driver and front passenger, the M leather steering wheel and the M driver’s footrest maximise the driving experience inside the new BMW X5. Brushed aluminium interior trim elements and a BMW Individual roof liner in anthracite add the finishing touches to the sporting ambience.

LeMansX5 02-25-2010 02:09 PM

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BGM 02-25-2010 03:13 PM

Thanks, LeMans---good stuff.

"The M Sports package also includes special tailpipes for the exhaust system." So, does this mean the M Sport Pack on the 35i will have the larger tailpipes that are on the 50i ?

X5 Meister 02-25-2010 03:29 PM

Thanks LeMans

1. Overall looks pretty good, though somewhat 'softer' overall, kind of like a baby X5 M.
2. For the most part I think it actually looks BETTER than the E70 facelift!
3. It's a HUGE improvement from the previous E70 M Sport Pack, which I thought looked terrible.
4. I hate the color in the photos, what is that Marshmallow Metallic?
5. In Carbon Black Metallic it will be a killer.
6. It states that Carbon Black Metallic is exclusive to the M Sport Pack, does that mean there is no chance in hell to order that color separately now?
7. Still not loving the wheels, though they are okay. For some reason I still think the 214's look the best on the E70.
8. Interesting that they have front wheel fender arches (flares) on a US version (unlike the US spec E53 4.8is)
9. The running boards are horrible, though will probably look better in a dark color. They belong on a Escalade.
10. M steering wheel, does that mean no heater?

JM71 02-25-2010 03:43 PM

Still no word on the 40hp performance option (7RR)?????

alexmish 02-25-2010 03:54 PM

It looks soooooooooooooooo good. It will be very tough choice to give up heated steering wheel !!!!!

X5 Meister 02-25-2010 04:05 PM

I wonder what is the actual difference between that steering wheel and the stock one. And unless the photo is not accurate, it looks like the "M" steering wheel doesn't even have ///M stitching... what a rip off!

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexmish (Post 717265)
It looks soooooooooooooooo good. It will be very tough choice to give up heated steering wheel !!!!!


BGM 02-25-2010 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 717252)
Thanks LeMans

1. Overall looks pretty good, though somewhat 'softer' overall, kind of like a baby X5 M.
2. For the most part I think it actually looks BETTER than the E70 facelift!
3. It's a HUGE improvement from the previous E70 M Sport Pack, which I thought looked terrible.
4. I hate the color in the photos, what is that Marshmallow Metallic?
5. In Carbon Black Metallic it will be a killer.
6. It states that Carbon Black Metallic is exclusive to the M Sport Pack, does that mean there is no chance in hell to order that color separately now?
7. Still not loving the wheels, though they are okay. For some reason I still think the 214's look the best on the E70.
8. Interesting that they have front wheel fender arches (flares) on a US version (unlike the US spec E53 4.8is)
9. The running boards are horrible, though will probably look better in a dark color. They belong on a Escalade.
10. M steering wheel, does that mean no heater?

I believe it's Alpine White---probably looks metallic in the pictures. There was a Carbon Black X5M at one of the dealers here in Dallas I sat in. I'm a Jet Black fan but it did look sharp---though getting any kind of black on this M Sport pack with all the trim painted is a rock chip and paint scratch nightmare.

AwesomeM3 02-25-2010 04:43 PM

The new M Sport Package looks awesome! :2thumbs: I want!! :drool:

motordavid 02-25-2010 05:08 PM

The new X M looks Titz, imo!
If my ol' '01 wasn't running so well, and I had a spare $65Gs+,
(and my '01 as a trade-in), I would get in line.

Thanks for the good stuff, as usual LM!
GL, mD

Viperfreak2 02-25-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 717252)
4. I hate the color in the photos, what is that Marshmallow Metallic?
5. In Carbon Black Metallic it will be a killer.

4. It doesn't look like that in person
5. It is.

Boatpi 02-25-2010 05:14 PM

Has anyone been able to determine if the M Sport Package will be available on the Diesel????

alexmish 02-25-2010 05:39 PM

On the M-Sport 19" wheels, are those performance or all-season tires?

Boatpi 02-25-2010 06:45 PM

From what I have seem they are all season on the 19" and perf tires on the optional 20's. Trying to determine of the M is on the 3.5D. Ordering tomorrow but my CD does not have any info.

alexmish 02-25-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boatpi (Post 717347)
From what I have seem they are all season on the 19" and perf tires on the optional 20's. Trying to determine of the M is on the 3.5D. Ordering tomorrow but my CD does not have any info.


If the standard 19" on the M-sport have all-seasons, I am sold.... Not to mention the front look of the M-sport is soooo much better than the stock one (which I hate). My lease is up in December, so will start shoping around in September to get the PDC delivery...

alexmish 02-25-2010 07:47 PM

According to the ordering guide:

1. Getting M-Sport with 3.5i SA will be $20 less than without M-sport for the features I want ! :) - because certain features, such as running boards, multi-countour seats, etc are not availabe on M-sport, and ZCW is $150 cheaper...
2. M-Sport comes with the 20" performance tires... 19" with all-seasons are available as downgrade, but I am not sure which 19" those would be.

In any case, waiting for the on-line BYO available to confirm these, but so far very excited.

CarsRmyVICE 02-25-2010 08:24 PM

I hate the fact that bmw focuses on useless aesthetics for the m package. I do understand ordering it for looks if you can spare a few k but to be honest I don't want M badges on my steering wheel etc if its just a vanity. It is almost like they make changes to the fascia that should have been on the lci then throw on a few cheap options and raise the price. I wish they would just give me 50 horse instead, then maybe Id drop the cash.

StumpyPete 02-25-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boatpi (Post 717296)
Has anyone been able to determine if the M Sport Package will be available on the Diesel????

That's a market decision - it is available in Europe. List prices for diesel M-sport are on all the European websites.

X5 Meister 02-25-2010 09:43 PM

Yes and also on the all electric version.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boatpi (Post 717296)
Has anyone been able to determine if the M Sport Package will be available on the Diesel????


X5 Meister 02-25-2010 09:47 PM

You have a good point. While I like the overall look of the package I see no reason to call it "M." They should call it an aero package or whatever, but as someone said above, it's a marketing decision. I am one of those people who always felt that "M" should be exclusive to M cars (M1, M3, M5, X5 M, X6 M) and not some pseudo-variants of real M cars. Having an M footrest and 1 cm M badge on the steering wheel is ridiculous IMHO if you don't have an M engine under the hood.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarsRmyVICE (Post 717378)
I hate the fact that bmw focuses on useless aesthetics for the m package. I do understand ordering it for looks if you can spare a few k but to be honest I don't want M badges on my steering wheel etc if its just a vanity. It is almost like they make changes to the fascia that should have been on the lci then throw on a few cheap options and raise the price. I wish they would just give me 50 horse instead, then maybe Id drop the cash.


LeMansX5 02-25-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGM (Post 717239)
Thanks, LeMans---good stuff.

"The M Sports package also includes special tailpipes for the exhaust system." So, does this mean the M Sport Pack on the 35i will have the larger tailpipes that are on the 50i ?

M-sport 35i will have same trapezoidal tips as xDrive 50i.
50i with M-sport pack will have the ones shown in pics.

Trapezoidal tips are not bigger than ones shown in M-sport pack pics.

Leeman 02-25-2010 11:09 PM

When I placed my order for my 2011 X5 35d, there was no option available for Sport on it.

-- Lee

M5_Traveler 02-26-2010 02:45 AM

Thanks for all the Great Info
 
Hi all - I have been patiently waiting for the E70 LCI info, and boy I'm glad I waited. I have conviced my wife that that she will like a 3.5 White M-Sport, so we will be putting our deposit soon, trying to get a Jun or Jul production date.

LeMansX5 - Thanks for all the great information and pics, you have made my future X5 selection and easy process.

-Noah

LeMansX5 02-26-2010 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M5_Traveler (Post 717495)
Hi all - I have been patiently waiting for the E70 LCI info, and boy I'm glad I waited. I have conviced my wife that that she will like a 3.5 White M-Sport, so we will be putting our deposit soon, trying to get a Jun or Jul production date.

LeMansX5 - Thanks for all the great information and pics, you have made my future X5 selection and easy process.

-Noah

No problem. Welcome to Xoutpost.com. :beerchug:

Mr.Impatient 02-26-2010 01:52 PM

Hey LeMans-- I thought I saw an invoice pricing sheet in this thread somewhere, but I cant find it now. Was it actually posted? TIA

BayernJoe 02-27-2010 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 717210)
... the BMW Individual Exterior Line side window frames in satin-finish aluminium and the BMW Individual roof rails in satin-finish chrome to create an unmistakable look.

In the press release BMW states that the trim lines and the roof rails will have satin-finish aluminum and chrome respectively. Does that mean that the images are not accurate since they seem to show Shadowline trim and black roof rails? I prefer the darker lines personally.

LeMansX5 02-27-2010 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayernJoe (Post 717817)
In the press release BMW states that the trim lines and the roof rails will have satin-finish aluminum and chrome respectively. Does that mean that the images are not accurate since they seem to show Shadowline trim and black roof rails? I prefer the darker lines personally.

They are not showing Individual M-sport in pics.

Mr.Impatient 02-27-2010 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayernJoe (Post 717817)
In the press release BMW states that the trim lines and the roof rails will have satin-finish aluminum and chrome respectively. Does that mean that the images are not accurate since they seem to show Shadowline trim and black roof rails? I prefer the darker lines personally.

:iagree: shadowline is the choice. I'll be pissed if they gave it the lame ass euro chrome window outlining. will have to customize that part.

alexmish 02-27-2010 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 717846)
:iagree: shadowline is the choice. I'll be pissed if they gave it the lame ass euro chrome window outlining. will have to customize that part.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

x1singh 02-27-2010 10:24 AM

Hi dose any1 know when the online bmw configurator will let be build the new x5?

rosmoss 02-27-2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayernJoe (Post 717817)
In the press release BMW states that the trim lines and the roof rails will have satin-finish aluminum and chrome respectively. Does that mean that the images are not accurate since they seem to show Shadowline trim and black roof rails? I prefer the darker lines personally.

According to the CDN ordering guide we get satin aluminum for both. Same as in prior years. I think that the US had aluminum on the roof and high gloss shadowline for the windows. The UK lets you mix and match as you wish. In other markets the combinations seem to vary based on pics of preLCI X5s.

I personally think that the satin aluminum will look good with carbon black so I ordered it.

Mr.Impatient 02-27-2010 06:34 PM

Frustrated WTF!
 
My CA still has no pricing in their system and all pricing shows up as "blocked" when they build the car. Is this everyone's experience in trying to order a 2011 5.0?

Waiting for these these goddam cars to be made is like watching for grass to grow in a desert.:swear::pullhair:

Leeman 02-27-2010 07:52 PM

I have an order in for a 2011 X5 35d - with a production number and week (15).

-- Lee

x1singh 02-27-2010 07:54 PM

I have an order in for a 2011 X5 40d msport - with a production number, expected delivery in june, i am in the uk.

M3_WC 02-27-2010 10:24 PM

Will the $4500 Eco Credit transfer to the 2011 35d?

Thats all I need to know bmw. I will then order.

sheikh36 02-28-2010 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 718013)
My CA still has no pricing in their system and all pricing shows up as "blocked" when they build the car. Is this everyone's experience in trying to order a 2011 5.0?

Waiting for these these goddam cars to be made is like watching for grass to grow in a desert.:swear::pullhair:

I ordered a 5.0 aprox 1.5 weeks ago....got build sheet with pricing,production number,est build date of april 16th....would make sure dealer is not jerking you around....most people are able to order with numbers etc....people on bimmerfest are saying they have invoice pdf sheets that they will mail you...do a search....the info is out...lease rates being released march 2nd....

zalzala 02-28-2010 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheikh36 (Post 718095)
I ordered a 5.0 aprox 1.5 weeks ago....got build sheet with pricing,production number,est build date of april 16th....would make sure dealer is not jerking you around....most people are able to order with numbers etc....people on bimmerfest are saying they have invoice pdf sheets that they will mail you...do a search....the info is out...lease rates being released march 2nd....

kool:thumbup:

Mr.Impatient 02-28-2010 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheikh36 (Post 718095)
I ordered a 5.0 aprox 1.5 weeks ago....got build sheet with pricing,production number,est build date of april 16th....would make sure dealer is not jerking you around....most people are able to order with numbers etc....people on bimmerfest are saying they have invoice pdf sheets that they will mail you...do a search....the info is out...lease rates being released march 2nd....

How can I know if they're jerking me around? It sure sounds like they are bc people like you have order numbers and build dates and I still don't have shit. I have no clue what's the problem.

X5 Meister 02-28-2010 03:11 AM

When you introduce yourself as Mr. Impatient I think it's a tip off to them to screw with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 718126)
How can I know if they're jerking me around? It sure sounds like they are bc people like you have order numbers and build dates and I still don't have shit. I have no clue what's the problem.


Fraser 02-28-2010 03:35 AM

Let's get it straight guys. It's not a 5.0. It's a 4.4 with twin turbos. It's called a 50i.

M3_WC 02-28-2010 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeman (Post 718024)
I have an order in for a 2011 X5 35d - with a production number and week (15).

-- Lee

Did you get the Eco Credit?

BGM 02-28-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 718127)
When you introduce yourself as Mr. Impatient I think it's a tiff off to them to screw with you.

Ha. :stickpoke

LeMansX5 03-02-2010 08:20 PM

Video from Geneva auto show - X5 on display

X5 Meister 03-02-2010 09:31 PM

Wow that guy had some stupid comments.


Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 718954)


sheikh36 03-02-2010 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 718972)
Wow that guy had some stupid comments.

I agree.He knew nothing about the car. First he said it goes 0-60 in 4.8 sec which is not true. Then he said they added on the wheel arches...they have always been there as part of the sport package with 20" wheels...... which is what I think this 40d had with the 20 inch 336 wheels ...idiot!

CarsRmyVICE 03-02-2010 11:27 PM

Haha silly clown. I still don't understand how the tail lights are that much better but owell, I will judge in person. PS that merc advertisement beforehand cracks me up. Whats the ad saying....you can flip this thing over on a normal road........... and it wont breakin half :rofl:

BGM 03-02-2010 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 718972)
Wow that guy had some stupid comments.

He might as well say "This X5 has wheels, doors and an engine."

Spectrum8 03-03-2010 09:31 AM

Style 334 Wheels
 
Does anybody have any pics of the new 2011 X5 with Premium Package Style 334 wheels? I just ordered a 2011 from US Military Sales while downrange in Afghanistan and would like to see what the final build will look like. Thanks for your help.

tcfila 03-03-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectrum8 (Post 719081)
Does anybody have any pics of the new 2011 X5 with Premium Package Style 334 wheels? I just ordered a 2011 from US Military Sales while downrange in Afghanistan and would like to see what the final build will look like. Thanks for your help.


It's pretty cool that we pay the people that protect us enough to get a BMW. Thank You!

Spectrum8 03-03-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcfila (Post 719102)
It's pretty cool that we pay the people that protect us enough to get a BMW. Thank You!

I'm due to retire next year after 21 years of service and its my early retirement gift after saving years for my first X5! Cant wait......and I will definitely post pics! Once again, does anybody have any pics of the Style 334 wheels actually on the new 2011 X5?

LeMansX5 03-03-2010 08:55 PM

Pics from Geneva show. Thanks to Horatiu

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...-geneva-26.jpg
http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...-geneva-13.jpg

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...i-geneva-9.jpg

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...-geneva-11.jpg

http://www.bmwblog.com/wp-content/up...i-geneva-7.jpg

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BGM 03-03-2010 10:15 PM

Nice pics. Are the suit pants on that one guy spray painted on ?? Geez.

LeMansX5 03-03-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BGM (Post 719350)
Nice pics. Are the suit pants on that one guy spray painted on ?? Geez.

Painted in jet black. ;)

X5 Meister 03-03-2010 10:47 PM

Why you are noticing worries me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGM (Post 719350)
Nice pics. Are the suit pants on that one guy spray painted on ?? Geez.


X5 Meister 03-03-2010 10:56 PM

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Wow, sucker is still on the showroom floor and ALREADY it is having battery discharge issues! Hey emcman, your new car is ready!

http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e70-forum...discharge.html

X5 Meister 03-03-2010 10:59 PM

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Here, stare at this photo for a solid 10 minutes and I think you'll be okay.

My apologies to the female Xoutpost members, this required an intervention. I just hope I wasn't too late.

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Originally Posted by BGM (Post 719350)
Nice pics. Are the suit pants on that one guy spray painted on ?? Geez.


BGM 03-04-2010 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5 Meister (Post 719374)
Here, stare at this photo for a solid 10 minutes and I think you'll be okay.

My apologies to the female Xoutpost members, this required an intervention. I just hope I wasn't too late.

The only thing I really notice is she doesn't have her left hand in the correct 10 o'clock position. Was this what you were trying to show me ?

Fraser 03-04-2010 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGM (Post 719420)
The only thing I really notice is she doesn't have her left hand in the correct 10 o'clock position. Was this what you were trying to show me ?


Yep, I don't think she is a good driver. She may have other talents, though.

X5 Meister 03-04-2010 12:56 AM

Her left hand is for something else. She's a lefty.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGM (Post 719420)
The only thing I really notice is she doesn't have her left hand in the correct 10 o'clock position. Was this what you were trying to show me ?


pgaX5 03-05-2010 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectrum8 (Post 719081)
Does anybody have any pics of the new 2011 X5 with Premium Package Style 334 wheels? I just ordered a 2011 from US Military Sales while downrange in Afghanistan and would like to see what the final build will look like. Thanks for your help.

Thank you for your service! I haven't had any luck with this myself. There are a few renderings from ordering guides posted here & my CA sent me a parts diagram, but I have yet to see the 334's on an actual vehicle yet.

rh71 03-05-2010 08:34 AM

- I didn't realize those larger intakes are faux... I thought they needed that for cooling the TT gas engines... is it only because this is a 40d?

- the black bumper near the right fog light has a cutout piece. Is this for easier access to removing the front pieces should they need maintenance?

- I stared.

LeMansX5 03-05-2010 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rh71 (Post 719950)
- I didn't realize those larger intakes are faux... I thought they needed that for cooling the TT gas engines... is it only because this is a 40d?

On 50i only one side is fake.

AwesomeM3 03-09-2010 04:39 PM

Price sheet 2011 X5
 
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Anyone post the price sheet yet? If not, here are the Wholesale and Retail prices for the 2011 X5 35d and 50i:

zalzala 03-09-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwesomeM3 (Post 721061)
Anyone post the price sheet yet? If not, here are the Wholesale and Retail prices for the 2011 X5 35d and 50i:

Thanks.

where are 35i wholesale pricing etc?

Mr.Impatient 03-09-2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 719952)
On 50i only one side is fake.

Really? Why? Doesn't it need the extra air from both sides?

M5_Traveler 03-10-2010 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 721069)
Thanks.

where are 35i wholesale pricing etc?


+1, I'm interested on the 3.5 Sport Activity pricing. -Noah

LeMansX5 03-11-2010 12:39 AM

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Some new pics.
Deep Sea blue with style 334 and 336wheels.
Carbon black with M-sport and style 333M wheels.
Alpine white with M-sport and style 333M wheels.
Vermilion red with style 334 wheels.
Platinum gray with style 334 wheels.

LeMansX5 03-11-2010 12:58 AM

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Few more with Pearl silver and Ruby black

BGM 03-11-2010 10:31 AM

Ugh that Sea Blue reminds me of that "Disco" blue color that was so popular in the 90's.

rosmoss 03-11-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BGM (Post 721717)
Ugh that Sea Blue reminds me of that "Disco" blue color that was so popular in the 90's.

I agree that you have to like blue to want the deep sea blue but its not as bright as the configurator makes it look.

I hear the vermillion red, carbon black and the individual colours are delayed until May production.

Mr.Impatient 03-11-2010 06:40 PM

Apparently, the shaowline trim really is gone and replaced by silver trim -- looks far less aggressive and cheap. That's definitely the first mod.

mswaz 03-11-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 721836)
Apparently, the shaowline trim really is gone and replaced by silver trim -- looks far less aggressive and cheap. That's definitely the first mod.


I think those are European spec models from the config tool. If Im not mistaken the shadowline is still standard in the US for sport pack models. I like the looks of Shadowline but I sure wish they could make it more scratch resistant.

X5 Meister 03-13-2010 06:50 PM

Great info, thanks for sharing. Still disappointed with BMW NA though.

I posted some things that were annoyingly unavailable on the 2009 E70 X5. Now we are looking at 2011 and only about half have been improved upon I'm sorry to say. Here's looking forward (and hoping) to 2012!

Issue:
1. Carbon Black metallic exterior - available in other markets.
- BMW somewhat improved this situation by making it available with the M Sport Package, unfortunately if you don't want the rest of the $6,500 package you're screwed. Though they did add at least one nice new color option (Platinum Grey). (Not sure if Ruby Black will be available in the USA)

2. Camel Nevada leather interior - available in other markets
- Looks like they did away with this color completely (and apparently Saddle Brown too). At least they introduced some decent options this time, both that are two-tone: Oyster Nevada leather and Cinnamon Brown Nevada leather.

3. Passenger active seat - available in other markets.
- Still not available in the USA, on a car built in the USA.

4. Perforated leather (for Active Seats) in a color other than Black or Sand Beige.
- This is still not available in other colors for some completely bizarre reason, which means no Active Ventilated Seat Package if you hate those two color options, and I do. The BMW X5 M individual has perforated leather options in five colors (Platinum, Champagne, Criollo Brown, Syrah Blue, Slate) so BMW still knows how to punch tiny hole into different color leather.

5. If you want the Leather Dashboard option then you MUST order Nappa leather which means only Sand Beige or Black since those come in Nevada and Nappa options. Oyster or Cinnamon Brown is not possible with this option since they only come as Nevada leather. (BTW, why is one leather named after an entire state and another leather named after a small region within a state?) Also since only perforated leather is Nevada leather and not Nappa leather, if you want the Active Ventilated seat package you cannot have the leather dashboard. Sound stupid, you bet it does!

6. Night vision - available on other models.
- Still not available for the X5. Now the system is on it's 2nd generation with a higher specification camera (longer range and narrower angle) and better software (better person recognition, color options, zoom function), but zippo for the X5.

7. Automatic high beams - available in other markets
- Finally included for the USA!

8. Active cruise control with stop 'n go - available on 5, 7 series
- Finally included for the USA!

9. Updated i-drive console - available in virtually every other BMW model including the 1 series.
- Finally included for the USA!

10. CIC i-drive system - was previously unavailable on all cars, then made available.
- Finally included for the USA!

11. Provision to select "Individual" options and be essentially custom made.
- Very limited availability if at all for the USA

12. It appears that 2011 will still have the ridiculous 'mpg' display rather than a proper oil temperature gauge in the instrument cluster, something that is now present on every other BMW model. Sounds stupid? You bet it does!!

13. Lastly, BMW is making 2,000 "10 year anniversary" models that are stunning, but not a single one is coming (back) to the USA even though they are built here and the US is the largest X5 market!? Thanks BMW NA (not available).

My 2 cents.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwesomeM3 (Post 721061)
Anyone post the price sheet yet? If not, here are the Wholesale and Retail prices for the 2011 X5 35d and 50i:


apw2607 03-14-2010 10:32 PM

8. Active cruise control with stop 'n go - available on 5, 7 series
- Finally included for the USA!

Yes .. but another weird one. Its not available for 35d (in USA). But is available for 40d (in other countries).

LeMansX5 03-23-2010 09:49 PM

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Close-up of new headlights.

Viperfreak2 03-24-2010 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Impatient (Post 721836)
Apparently, the shaowline trim really is gone and replaced by silver trim -- looks far less aggressive and cheap. That's definitely the first mod.

There are four 'trim' options:

1) Matte black
2) high gloss black (shadowline)
3) chrome
4) Aluminum satin

zalzala 03-24-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Viperfreak2 (Post 725720)
There are four 'trim' options:

1) Matte black
2) high gloss black (shadowline)
3) chrome
4) Aluminum satin

how do u order diff trim

PasPar2 03-24-2010 10:51 PM

has anyone come across a picture of the xdrive50i on standard wheels (non sport)

Viperfreak2 03-25-2010 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zalzala (Post 725805)
how do u order diff trim

I don't know. Maybe someone who has ordered an X5 recently can tell us how the salespeople explain this?

sheikh36 03-25-2010 09:10 AM

Looking through the ordering guide it seems you cannot.IN europe you can order different trims but in the USA everything is packaged with the 'packages"....so if you want the low profile aluminum roof rails u have to order the M sport package otherwise you get the standard roof rails.....I think the pictures are of X-5 's on their wat to europe as they have a mix and match of options.....

PasPar2 03-25-2010 12:14 PM

Does anyone have a list of the standard equip on a xdrive50i? thanks!

LeMansX5 03-25-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PasPar2 (Post 726009)
has anyone come across a picture of the xdrive50i on standard wheels (non sport)

;)

LeMansX5 03-25-2010 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PasPar2 (Post 726150)
Does anyone have a list of the standard equip on a xdrive50i? thanks!

Its already listed in this thread.

PasPar2 03-25-2010 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 726372)

from what I've come across, those are the xdrive35i premium wheels (334)...

see this guide bimmerfest - BMW Forums - View Single Post - Kosher to post the 2011 Order Guide?

the wheels listed for the v8 are style 210, the 35i gets the style 335 above

I *REALY* hope this is wrong.

LeMansX5 03-25-2010 09:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PasPar2 (Post 726381)
from what I've come across, those are the xdrive35i premium wheels (334)...

see this guide bimmerfest - BMW Forums - View Single Post - Kosher to post the 2011 Order Guide?

the wheels listed for the v8 are style 210, the 35i gets the style 335 above

I *REALY* hope this is wrong.

The pic is posted is of Euro spec X5. 210 is not an option on 50i for Europe.
Here is pic of 35i with 210s.

bmwman3241 03-26-2010 07:48 AM

Any *real* pictures of the platinum gray X5 (or X5M)?

PasPar2 03-26-2010 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwman3241 (Post 726513)
Any *real* pictures of the platinum gray X5 (or X5M)?

Not Platinum but real! :

http://www.xoutpost.com/726537-post33.html

TexasBMW 03-26-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 709370)
Side view camera

It's the anti-carjacking / crowd dispersal flame thrower.:stickpoke

zalzala 03-26-2010 12:30 PM

is that silver or space gray? it is not plat gray though!

vandne 04-01-2010 04:31 PM

Any pics out there of Deep Sea Blue? Even better, a 2011 X5 5.0 with M Package in Deep Sea Blue...

Thank you!

8ball 04-04-2010 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5 (Post 725620)
Close-up of new headlights.


Does this mean I won't be able to use my PIAA LED ring bulbs I had on my '07 for the 2011?

LeMansX5 04-11-2010 10:09 PM

Pics of X5 40d from Leipzig show.

http://www.bimmertoday.de/wp-content...E70-LCI-14.JPG
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X5 Meister 04-11-2010 11:29 PM

Hey those are some nice pictures of the new BMW X5xDrive40d. Any idea when the X5xDrive40dSXMX will come out?

PasPar2 04-12-2010 08:11 AM

Thanks for posting the 40d pictures! those helped me finally make up my mind about the 336's - while I do like the stance of the wide 20's, the wheels themselves are too "flowery". The Y spoke design has been taken to a new extreme :)

BGM 04-12-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PasPar2 (Post 731630)
Thanks for posting the 40d pictures! those helped me finally make up my mind about the 336's - while I do like the stance of the wide 20's, the wheels themselves are too "flowery". The Y spoke design has been taken to a new extreme :)

Thanks LeMans !

I think that brown color is not very flattering for the 336's. Wait and see pics with more "standard' colors (or on the Visualizer posted here) and I think your opinion will change.

PasPar2 04-12-2010 09:35 AM

I have been back and forth with my opinion of the 336... Im pretty much decided aginst them and the 335s...

atat88 04-12-2010 05:50 PM

great pictures!
Does anyone know what the bottom right button on the center console is for (below the favorite buttons)? Ive never seen it occupied on an X before.
Is it for the side cams?

X5 Meister 04-12-2010 06:06 PM

Yes, side cams.

BGM 04-12-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PasPar2 (Post 731658)
I have been back and forth with my opinion of the 336... Im pretty much decided aginst them and the 335s...

Everybody and their mom has 214s on the their e70 since that is the only 20" option (unless you want to drop another $8K on upgrading OEMs on top of that). The 333s on the M Sport look good IMO as well. I do wish BMW would go back to some sort of 5 star spoke but that's not going to happen.

LeMansX5 04-12-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BGM (Post 731902)
Everybody and their mom has 214s on the their e70 since that is the only 20" option (unless you want to drop another $8K on upgrading OEMs on top of that). The 335s look good IMO as well. I do wish BMW would go back to some sort of 5 star spoke but that's not going to happen.

:iagree: I still think that 5-spoke style 128 looks good as compared to all the flower style wheels. Somebody should get them powder coated in gun metal or dual tone like M6 wheels and they will be ace.

alewifebp 04-12-2010 11:52 PM

I saw the new X5 at the NY Auto Show. That new brown color is really nice. And while I didn't like the fog lights in the pictures I saw, it looked better in person. One thing that I couldn't tell was whether it had the LED angel eyes. They had the new 5 series and slightly refreshed 3 series and they both have them.


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