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Old 07-08-2006, 04:46 PM
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Wink M5 vs S6 vs E63

Just sharing an article from Automobile Magazine
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:08 PM
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Can't believe the m5 ended up in 3rd place. I was expecting it to be at least on 2nd place

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Old 07-08-2006, 05:20 PM
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Can't believe the end up ended in 3rd place. I was expecting it to be at least on 2nd place
Same here
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:39 PM
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Does anyone actually give a damn if the SMG in the M5 isn't the smoothest in auto mode?

Thanks for posting this.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:21 PM
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Does anyone actually give a damn if the SMG in the M5 isn't the smoothest in auto mode?

Thanks for posting this.

It would to me if i was spending that much money. The six speed comes out soon i think.
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:07 PM
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that's what idiots who do not understand what a sequential is thinks. It's not a auto so don't drive it a like an auto. After a little practice, you can be super smooth with SMG. I drove the CLS63. Was impressed but it still doesn't handle anything like the M5.. that's why I bought one.. The S6 is slow as molasses.. drove that too.

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It would to me if i was spending that much money. The six speed comes out soon i think.
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:10 PM
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that's what idiots who do not understand what a sequential is thinks. It's not a auto so don't drive it a like an auto. After a little practice, you can be super smooth with SMG. I drove the CLS63. Was impressed but it still doesn't handle anything like the M5.. that's why I bought one.. The S6 is slow as molasses.. drove that too.
In a perfect world, I'll take the E63's engine/seats with the M5's body/handling
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Old 07-08-2006, 08:17 PM
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The suspension tuning is much better on the CLS63 that I drove. (pre-prod model) since my buddy is now an exec at MB. The E63 in comparison is not as well sorted out. the 6.2l motor is a marvel though. Fast/torquey, no fuss acceleration. Interior is very classy. Problem is you still got a torque convertor, no BT yet until next March, and Comand (older version still sucks). Also for almost 25K premium over the M5.. I took the M5.

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Old 07-09-2006, 03:38 AM
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Agree with Josh. Remember, one of Josh's throwaway car was a E46 M3 with SMG. As a veteren E46 M3 SMG driver for the past 2 years, you re-learn really fast how to drive the SMG. It is like learning to drive stick for the first time. I can drive the M3 with SMG as smooth as an automatic car or as crazy-fast with quick wham-bam shifting.....The SMG is awesome for quick downshifting with SMG system blipping the throttle to rev-match your downshift!!

When I test drove the E60 M5 last week, any SMG M3 driver would feel right at home except it is even easier to be smoother in the M5. The M5 SMG III is quicker & smoother than the E46 M3 SMG II. To be honest, I never use the "automatic" mode....that is what driving the X5 with steptronic for....

Also, as a former Mercedes E-class owner, I agree with Josh. The Mercedes is nice & solid and rides well for cruising fast on the highway, but when it comes to driving dynamics with handling and driving-fun, the BMWs are always better than the Mercedes. Even though my old E-Class could go around a corner faster than most American sedans, the X5 actually was more fun to drive around a corner than the E-class. There is no good steering feedback in the Mercedes and always has syrupy throttle response vs. the BMWs.

So if you want solid fast sedan for the autobahn cruising, but don't care going on a mountain road, the Mercedes is fine. If you need AWD due to winter weather driving, get the Audi. If you want the best combo of a pure sports car driving experience packaged with luxury sedan--M5 hands down!!

There was a reason that we put tons more miles on the X5 than E-class. There is a reason why we put tons of miles on the E46 M3 (almost 45K miles with has been more reliable than the X5)...




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that's what idiots who do not understand what a sequential is thinks. It's not a auto so don't drive it a like an auto. After a little practice, you can be super smooth with SMG. I drove the CLS63. Was impressed but it still doesn't handle anything like the M5.. that's why I bought one.. The S6 is slow as molasses.. drove that too.
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Old 07-08-2006, 07:32 PM
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It seems to me there's been a BMW backlash in the auto mags for the past 2 years or so. The placings don't matter to me very much. As stupid as this may sound, I actually read the road tests for the quality of writing. To me it takes a really creative writer to transform what could be very boring material into a stimulating review. That's why I like reading Dan Neil of the L.A. Times. He can make a Kia Sedona an interesting read.

We all know that the M5 is the choice among purists. It can be individualized by the owners in ways not possible with the Audi or MB. There's more to a car than a single subjective road test.
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