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Old 03-30-2007, 03:46 AM
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I'm not excusing BMW's behavior in any way shape or form.

With that being said, BMW also seems to be taking the appropriate steps to rectify the situation.

I simply corrected you when you incorrectly stated that a missing second oil cooler would be a glaring and obvious manufacturing defect. With two sets of parts, this just isn't the case and isn't inherently obvious to those manufacturing the cars...
The point you're arguing doesn't even make sense..you think things will fit together with a part missing? Think about it a little bit. This is like explaining to a retarded 1 year old why the tower keeps falling over because he forgot one of the blocks.

Obv, BMW intended for the lack of oil cooler in certain models. The second set of parts is the problem.
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Old 03-30-2007, 12:02 PM
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status quo Vin... BMW forgot to install a transmission that worked on my M5.. they forgot that plastic impellers work like crap on the 3.0l and 3.2l motors. They also forgot all the complaining that people did up front when they saw the bangle cars .... status quo....
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The point you're arguing doesn't even make sense..you think things will fit together with a part missing? Think about it a little bit. This is like explaining to a retarded 1 year old why the tower keeps falling over because he forgot one of the blocks.

Obv, BMW intended for the lack of oil cooler in certain models. The second set of parts is the problem.
I'm done arguing with people with no facts. Go look at the BMWtis site and take a look at the actual engine diagrams.

Once you get your facts right, then come back...
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:57 PM
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I'm done arguing with people with no facts. Go look at the BMWtis site and take a look at the actual engine diagrams.

Once you get your facts right, then come back...
Dude, I worked as an engineer in an automaker's engine plant..I know what can/can't happen during assembly..just as well as what a company will do, and whereas what they will say. We all know that BMW screwed up in their judgement, by implementing ridiculous cost cutting / improper testing..yet again.
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Whatever, even if the 335i I buy (if I don't wait for the M3) has 2 oil coolers, one will probably be getting upgraded with a VPD unit if temps get high. Hopefully I won't have to worry about all that crap though
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Love, the turbo boost, torque and all, but how come both 335i (coupe and convertible) that I test drove had the oil temps running in the 260F!! The maximum oil temp on the guage is 300F.

Even when I'm running the M3 hard on the street, I hardly ever saw the oil temp run past 210F. I realize the twin-turbos really heat up the oil, but I would change the oil in the 335i every 3K miles with the way I drive.

Well, I'm sure this time next year, SANguru's 335i will morph into another car!
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:52 PM
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my 335i coupe runs fine, no overheating issues and I run it pretty hard (probably why I'm only getting high teens for gas mileage). from what i understand the earlier models released before Oct 06 mostly had the overheating issue, as well as, fuel pump problems.

normal temps on the oil gauge is usually around 225 which is a few bars past midpoint. not sure why BMW didn't make 225 the midpoint b/c it confused a lot of people.
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I won't push the issue further after this. The main issue here is not that the temp is close to the end of the temp gauge. That's hardly the problem. The fact that people are seeing temps of 250+ F during casual driving in 75F weather is a major issue, no matter where that is on the gauge. BMW's solution to replace gauges on existing 335i's is pathetic at best.

A word of caution though..be very very careful with your oil change intervals (3-5k miles) and the kind of oil you run. The 335i is still young, but I foresee many major problems down the road because of the junk oil BMWNA uses and the service intervals it pushes. Here's an oil analysis report from a 335i that followed BMW's reco:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/foru...0&fpart=1&vc=1

This is just another brilliant vehicle that's fallen victim to BMW's poor execution. They've obv got some fantastic design engineers there, but they development/validation dept really needs to examine themselves and what they're doing. There's obv something very wrong if engine after engine that performs very well, has major problems like this during the initial stages of it's life.
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guys.. the problems are ALREADY FIXED. Move along....
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We'll see if that really fixes the problem...just wondering how long the auto tranny will last.
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