X5 ///M spy shots, info and discussion thread - Page 31

chilliwilli · #1 03-17-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HIRISC

The X5M will not come standard with carbon ceramic brake rotors.. no ///M car has them standard - why would the E70?

Please tell us what specifically will differentiate the ///M variant from a loaded/sport packaged/20's 4.8i - beyond the engine & engine related add-ons like oil coolers, etc/different (not bigger) wheels/slight suspension tuning/cosmetics?

Should we expect a mag-ride suspension (such as Ferrari 599 and Corvette ZR1)?

Well, i guess we'll find out soon enough won't we? In the meantime, you can test drive any loaded BMW model and it's ///M variant back to back...and let us know if the only differences you experienced were cosmetic and slight tuning.

LeMansX5 · #2 03-17-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chilliwilli

Well, i guess we'll find out soon enough won't we? In the meantime, you can test drive any loaded BMW model and it's ///M variant back to back...and let us know if the only differences you experienced were cosmetic and slight tuning.

You can spend more than price difference between 335 and ///M3 on modding a 335 but still will not get the drive feel of ///M3. That's my 2 cents.

Read Post # 43 onwards in this thread, BMW has been working on ceramic brakes. When we will see it in production is the big Q.
http://www.xoutpost.com/x6-e71-e72-fo...-info-pdf.html

HIRISC · #3 03-17-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by chilliwilli

Well, i guess we'll find out soon enough won't we? In the meantime, you can test drive any loaded BMW model and it's ///M variant back to back...and let us know if the only differences you experienced were cosmetic and slight tuning.

I'm very well aware of the differences between all of the ///M and non ///M variants.

Please re-read my post which questioned you to be specific about what you believe the differences will be - beyond suspension tuning, engine/engine related (obvious) differences, cosmetics in the context of justifying pricing in excess of $100K.

My statement was specific that if the X5 ///M is priced greater than $100k (without any CC brakes or mag-suspension), then it's pricing IMO is out of whack.

I'm first in line for the ///M X5 locally, so I'm not speculating on-line for the hell of it.

X5 Meister · #4 03-16-2009, 05:31 PM

In a 550 hp SAV with 20" tires. That's for sure.

X5 Meister · #5 03-16-2009, 07:31 PM

Hey, no fair throwing in the 135i as a comparison... have you seen the number of options available on that car!? Brakes, springs, strut bar, cold intakes, seats, carbon fiber, and that steering wheel!, etc..... Makes the E53 and E70 X5's options seem like a complete joke.

chilliwilli · #6 03-16-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by X5 Meister

Hey, no fair throwing in the 135i as a comparison... have you seen the number of options available on that car!? Brakes, springs, strut bar, cold intakes, seats, carbon fiber, and that steering wheel!, etc..... Makes the E53 and E70 X5's options seem like a complete joke.

It only makes sense that BMW performance parts be available on all models (soon enough)...love the look of the 135i brakes btw.

bmwman3241 · #7 03-17-2009, 11:16 AM

I can't wait to place my order. Fully loaded with every option this time. Do you think they will do Individual when it releases or it will take some time?

B-Line · #8 03-17-2009, 01:35 PM

Couple of thoughts,

1) I hope we don't get ceramic brakes on the X5/X6 variant. Lets be honest, ceramic brakes are not meant for high performance braking, they are meant for SUSTAINED high performance braking. Meaning, they will not improve braking distance with any real significance, but if you are using them at the track, you are less likely to get fade.
- I have been a Porsche driver for years and a track driver. I would never waste the money on ceramic brakes ****UNLESS**** it was for a RACE CAR. Not a track car, but a RACE CAR. Cause a 1/2 hour run group in a set of Brembo big reads is going to give you all the stopping power you need x1000. But lets say you were running the 24 hours of Daytona, or the 12 hours of Sebring, then I would want ceramics for their longevity.

- So putting ceramic brakes on an X5 or X6 which will never be used for any sort of enduro racing is like putting tits on a bull. Not to mention the high cost of future repairs and their inability to fetch any returns on resale, even in a Porsche.

So why put them on an X5 for $8K-$10k? To show them off to your friends? It's a waste of money. However, if I were buying a M3 which was going to be used for endurance racing, I would consider it. p.s. - lots of guys who race Porsches don't use ceramics even for enduro racing cause they just don't need them, so why waste the money?
- Exactly what benefit and for what application would they be useful for a SAV performance truck? Again, they don't increase performance, just longevity of use.

P.S. - Anybody who does option their X5 or X6 with ceramics, if available, will get a long, long chuckle from me. "Endurance racing your X5 are we?"