x 3 is High Consumption

[martz]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

I disagree--most SUV's consume more--the '07 x3 is EPA 18/26 about on par with larger cars. It gets better mileage than the Audi Allroad I traded in--a station wagon--it was rated at 15/23.--in the SUV group it gets good mileage and does not require premium fuel.

dug01 ,
I stated hybrid or compact cars, not an Audi allroad or larger vehicles. My point is, if anyone is willing spend dollars on these type's of vehicles AWD, SUV, Full size high end cars, the last thing you should be worried about is gas consumption nor the type of fuel its neeed for it to run.

Now if the Diesels were offered here and MB has a few models out there, that would be a totally different discussion. But I do not believe they offer it on the ML series.... Which is what I earlier stated, Gas consumptions on SUV's. Can't get around it because they are heavy.
Power to weight ratio!

[AzNMpower32]

Originally Posted by martz

dug01 ,
Now if the Diesels were offered here and MB has a few models out there, that would be a totally different discussion. But I do not believe they offer it on the ML series.... Which is what I earlier stated, Gas consumptions on SUV's. Can't get around it because they are heavy.
Power to weight ratio!

Actually, MB has their ML 320 CDI........as shown from my pics at the auto show. The X5 apparently will be the first diesel in the US coming soon.

[martz]

Originally Posted by AzNMpower32

Actually, MB has their ML 320 CDI........as shown from my pics at the auto show. The X5 apparently will be the first diesel in the US coming soon.

interesting those CDI's have massive torque...thanks for the clarification

[YANNIS]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Sounds like this guy is determined to drive in lower gears and higher RPM --3500 to 3900 RPM is way to high for normal driving--Just because the manual limits to 4000 RPM does not mean to cruise at 3900 RPM---put the car in "D" and drive (or 6th gear if manual)--Or just drive as you are and quit complaining about gas mileage.

dear friend, the complaint was only for city driving with D mode and 2000 - 2800 rpm !!! where I see 21 - 20 ltrs/100 km.

when i go out, with D mode or manual at 3500 rpm or more the consumption is just perfect about 14 - 13 ltrs/100 km. I have to clarify that here we dont have roads to maintain such speeds for long time, few minutes that s all. And for the last 1300 km, only 100 - 200 have been with more than 3000 rpm.

so the case applies to all, and it is simple : which is the consumption with d mode in city for a new X3 3.0L petrol auto and low KM ???

[martz]

Yannis,

City driving, stop and go traffic will obviously consume more fuel than driving on a highway.( didnt you say you are a mechanical engineer?) There is really nothing you can do with the Revolutions Per Minute on an automatic transmission. You can switch it to manual mode and start off at 4rd gear if you want , but why do that.
My suggestion raise your tire pressure( it may help in consumption) keep it on D and enjoy the vehicle. If it continues to bother you... have a few drinks and SELL IT .

[YANNIS]

Originally Posted by martz

Yannis,

City driving, stop and go traffic will obviously consume more fuel than driving on a highway.( didnt you say you are a mechanical engineer?) There is really nothing you can do with the Revolutions Per Minute on an automatic transmission. You can switch it to manual mode and start off at 4rd gear if you want , but why do that.
My suggestion raise your tire pressure( it may help in consumption) keep it on D and enjoy the vehicle. If it continues to bother you... have a few drinks and SELL IT .

all discussions started which was your consumption for the first 1000 - 4000 km.
it is crystal clear that city demands more fuel. but there is a limit for everything. you can not accept 30 ltrs/100 ...just because it is the city. Thats why there is this forum, to exchange opinions with other users.
it is perhaps the desease of engineer not to leave behind anything, and try to understand any problem. The gear is always set to D in city.

[AzNMpower32]

30l/100km in the city average? Geez something's wrong cuz that's about 7.8 US miles per gallon. Either you're driving in a parking lot, or something else is messed up. Even when I am a leadfoot in the city, I don't get any worse average than 12mpg (19 l /100km). Overall, every tank of gas ends up averaging 20-21mpg, or 11-ish l/100km.

Btw, I found this nifty calculator: :p http://www.onlineconversion.com/fuel_consumption.htm

[[email protected]]

Originally Posted by martz

dug01 ,
I stated hybrid or compact cars, not an Audi allroad or larger vehicles. My point is, if anyone is willing spend dollars on these type's of vehicles AWD, SUV, Full size high end cars, the last thing you should be worried about is gas consumption nor the type of fuel its neeed for it to run.

Now if the Diesels were offered here and MB has a few models out there, that would be a totally different discussion. But I do not believe they offer it on the ML series.... Which is what I earlier stated, Gas consumptions on SUV's. Can't get around it because they are heavy.
Power to weight ratio!

With the diesel option $1500 to $3000 more than gas and diesel fuel as much as $.30 more a gallon in some areas and the higher maintenance (more frequent oil change and most have 3 to 4 more quarts capacity) I don't see the financial advantage unless you tow stuff alot. The same with hybrids--the extra cost up front (even with the gov incentives) it was calculated in many sources that you would have to own the vehicle for at least 5 years to break even if you drive average miles per year when compared to the standard engine--and in 5 years could be the battery pack would need replacement. For most of us the gas (not ethanol) fueled internal combustion engine is the best so far.
I am quite pleased with the mileage on my X3--and my Z4

[martz]

Dug01,

Cost is not the issue....MPG buddy