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Old 03-17-2016, 04:00 PM
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"...but that is often not the case."

Key words.


What I am saying is a manufacturers reputation is an excellent indicator to current model reliability. Is it absolute? Certainly not. But it's probably the best indicator (barring some fundamental change with the manufacturer)
Key words meant what I had already posted,suggesting you misinterpreted what I said. Whether it is or not often the case or a strong or weak indicator, it is one indicator. By what you posted about quality in the 80-90s verses today you are agreeing with me. You certainly are welcome to your opinion if the improvement is enough or not, I am not saying one way or another, certainly not of all products of a particular brand. I'm done, not important and off topic.
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My bet is Hellcats and Challengers come off the same assembly line or one using the same automation.
I'm sure that they do come off the same assembly line. My point was that they're specialty vehicles which come with a different set of expectations. Much like an old Road Runner...

There are definitely trends by brand. JD Power is a well respected study of them:

Dependability:
2016 Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) by Make | J.D. Power

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2015 Initial Quality Study (IQS) by Make | J.D. Power
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Key words meant what I had already posted,suggesting you misinterpreted what I said.
I made no misrepresentation. I disagree with it.

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Whether it is or not often the case or a strong or weak indicator, it is one indicator. By what you posted about quality in the 80-90s verses today you are agreeing with me. You certainly are welcome to your opinion if the improvement is enough or not, I am not saying one way or another, certainly not of all products of a particular brand. I'm done, not important and off topic.
What are the other indicators?
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