Then I saw another 4.6is

[Helihover]

Originally Posted by X53Jay4.8is

rebuilt title = salvage title = scrapyard parts vehicle. Anyone who buys this vehicle weather enthusiast or average retail customer should realize what this car is(essentially a vehicle that was damaged enough to go to the scrapyard and totalled out by the insurance company. Not a good purchase if you ever decide to want to sell it.

Do enthusiast buy salvage cars?

This car will go to a noob and he will live the rest of his life thinking bmws are piles of crap after owning this one for a year or so.... That's just my prediction.

I just can't believe the seller/dealer (mr. Shady) is advertising false miles. That's just bad business right there all for what? To possibly make an extra grand or so. That's the only thing that bugs me. People sell overpriced junk everyday.

[X53Jay4.8is]

Originally Posted by Helihover

Do enthusiast buy salvage cars?

This car will go to a noob and he will live the rest of his life thinking bmws are piles of crap after owning this one for a year or so.... That's just my prediction.

I just can't believe the seller/dealer (mr. Shady) is advertising false miles. That's just bad business right there all for what? To possibly make an extra grand or so. That's the only thing that bugs me. People sell overpriced junk everyday.

I have seen a number of enthusiasts purchase salvaged vehicle. Some use them for parts.

[Helihover]

Or they can come down to P town....

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/ctd/5474965022.html

Asking ten for this one too. I couldn't get off the phone with the guy, and he was down to 8k just per our conversation! Lol
https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/ctd/5486911940.html

[Joshdub]

Not all salvage titles are equal. Some can be dangerous, same can be irrelevant. a car totaled from vandalism and a car totaled from getting tboned are not the same thing. A stolen vehicle and a flood vehicle, a light front corner impact and a fire, they all get salvaged titles. It really depends on what happened.

I'm not speaking for this one, nor do I own anything with a salvaged title, there is just a stigma associated with them that is a little silly.

[X53Jay4.8is]

Originally Posted by Joshdub

Not all salvage titles are equal. Some can be dangerous, same can be irrelevant. a car totaled from vandalism and a car totaled from getting tboned are not the same thing. A stolen vehicle and a flood vehicle, a light front corner impact and a fire, they all get salvaged titles. It really depends on what happened.

I'm not speaking for this one, nor do I own anything with a salvaged title, there is just a stigma associated with them that is a little silly.

This is true but this vehicle has clearly been an accident and cobbled back together. Not to mention the improper gauge cluster. So there is a lot wrong with this one on the surface. There is probably a lot more beneath the surface.

[Joshdub]

Yes this one looks hacked together

[sunny5280]

None of us can conclusively state this will be an unreliable vehicle. The fact it's been "cobbled together" doesn't prove as much. Will this vehicle be a good purchase? That depends on the buyer. There are many people who really won't care that it's been cobbled together. They'll look at it and say "That's what I want" and then buy it. Will it fall apart on them? We don't know. Merely being cobbled together doesn't ensure that it will.

There's a lot wrong with this vehicle starting with the misleading mileage. But merely being cobbled together doesn't mean it will be unreliable.

[BMWX5CHI]

Originally Posted by sunny5280

None of us can conclusively state this will be an unreliable vehicle. The fact it's been "cobbled together" doesn't prove as much. Will this vehicle be a good purchase? That depends on the buyer. There are many people who really won't care that it's been cobbled together. They'll look at it and say "That's what I want" and then buy it. Will it fall apart on them? We don't know. Merely being cobbled together doesn't ensure that it will.

There's a lot wrong with this vehicle starting with the misleading mileage. But merely being cobbled together doesn't mean it will be unreliable.

Exactly, I don't see what the big deal is. If you don't like what you see, don't buy it. As for who ends up buying it, that's on them. As you stated, They'll look at it and say "That's what I want". Some people do not care if it's been rebuilt or "pieced together" as long as it looks good and the repairs were properly done. As for what's he's asking for, he can ask for whatever he wants. Is it worth $10495 ? probably not. With all of the noticeable problems I'm sure you can haggle a bit. Depends on how bad you want it.

[crystalworks]

Sunny, reliability is not the issue. You're right, it could be dead reliable.

I hope you guys never send your parents or significant others out to buy cars by themselves. It sounds like you are okay with shady business practices and place responsibility totally on the purchaser to be aware of all of these things.

That's like going in for a knee replacement and asking the doc about the brand of knee being used... it's components... success rate... etc. Nobody can be an informed purchaser on ALL things. Just because we KNOW that truck is not worth $10500, it shouldn't be expected that everyone should know. Or even a majority of people. I bet less than 20% of BMW enthusiasts even know what a manipulation dot is.

My problem with it is not necessarily the price, because you're right, he can ask what he wants. But my problem is the way it's being marketed. A "low-mileage" rebuilt truck is not what that thing is.

[X53Jay4.8is]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

Sunny, reliability is not the issue. You're right, it could be dead reliable.

I hope you guys never send your parents or significant others out to buy cars by themselves. It sounds like you are okay with shady business practices and place responsibility totally on the purchaser to be aware of all of these things.

That's like going in for a knee replacement and asking the doc about the brand of knee being used... it's components... success rate... etc. Nobody can be an informed purchaser on ALL things. Just because we KNOW that truck is not worth $10500, it shouldn't be expected that everyone should know. Or even a majority of people. I bet less than 20% of BMW enthusiasts even know what a manipulation dot is.

My problem with it is not necessarily the price, because you're right, he can ask what he wants. But my problem is the way it's being marketed. A "low-mileage" rebuilt truck is not what that thing is.

Oh yeah I bet depending on which salesman you ask about that dot on the instrument cluster, you might get an answer like "Oh thats the below freezing indicator light, etc." Crystalworks is right most would not recognize that the illuminated dot is a tamper dot.