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BTW, cheapest I've seen these is at Pelican for $14.75 if anyone wanted to pick up a set. Looks to be "cheap" or these.
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I have been exposed to technical data re nuts/bolts, thread pitch, bolt strength, TTY etc. etc. This bolt is not TTY bolt from the look of it.
BMW engineers always overkill when writing technical manual for liability reasons. The truth is: BMW enthusiasts, being enthusiast, read the repair manula like a Bible. BMW mechanics: they re-use the bolts all the time. The only time they use new bolts is engine head gasket job.
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$14.75 for the whole set of bolts? Or for each bolt? If that price is for the whole set then I can just get new ones— I always thought they cost way more than that.
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For some, not necessarily you, it doesn't matter how important it is to follow instructions to the letter. They will justify their actions, in this case to cut cost, by seeking any kind of support for what they are going to do anyway. Those that have posted here that are not replacing the bolts are doing so without a factual foundation for their decision. When you are posting an opinion it really helps readers to start the post with--IMO-in my opinion--- or something similar. FYI- I don't follow directions all the time. I feel sure we all know that sometimes it works out fine, sometimes it doesn't and sometimes it is an expensive lesson. Over the last several decades if I don't know for sure there will be no problem if I ignore directions, I have chosen to be safe than potentially sorry. I think the core issue is the cost that drives seeking justification for taking the risk. Ask yourself--knowing BMW clearly states to replace the bolts and if the cost was $1.00 ea. would you ignore the warning and reuse them? Do you reuse cylinder head bolts?
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The dealer list cost is $20 ea. It makes no sense to me and it doesn't to my parts guy at the dealer either but that's the cost.
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My cousin is an independent BMW mechanic in L.A. area. I also know 3 BMW mechanics here. They just laugh at the whole thing. They re-use the bolts.
Cost for me is not an issue, I can afford the bolts. I have discussed this in detail in another thread, this bolt is as big as the wheels lugs. It is not TTY bolt. I don't really care what you say. I reuse the bolts. I think people need to use their own judgment and stop being fearful. I ways use new cyl head bolts. That is probably the only place I care about using new bolts.
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No lost cause.
I find it amazing people spent countless hours discussing a stupid bolt. Volvo, BMW etc. etc. says change the crush washer on the drain bolt when changing oil. I challenged that theory by re-using the same washer (just pay attention to the orientation as the bolt creates a small indent on the washer, so keep the same orientation). So my Volvos and BMWs have the same crusher washer from factory (I bought some of these cars new from the showroom), after so many oil changes. I keep the brand-new crush washers in a container, I have so many of these washers, it is not funny. This goes to prove that not everything mentioned in the repair book is that important. I create new procedures for repair all the time. The only place I care about using new bolts is cylinder head job. Some Honda factory manual tells people to use new wheel bolts when they replace their tires LOL...
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