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#1
06-14-2017, 10:39 AM
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Cheers!
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#2
06-14-2017, 10:47 AM
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And because the 3.0 has a different engine/transmission, you can't use the stock 3.0 arm on the M62 conversion? I get it now. The devil is definitely in the details!
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06-14-2017, 01:46 PM
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Let me see if I'm tracking....
On the current design you cut the arm mount down are are just thinking of mounting it direct to the tower? If so what if you got a thick piece of aluminum or steel plate and directly mounted the arm to it. That would solve the height issue by creating a spacer and should be stout enough to support the forces be placed on the arm. Basically retain the front bushing set up and then would need to do something on the back. If you could use a bushing instead of just a bolt it should improve shift feel (I'm guessing here). OR..... Just fab your own out of a plate of steel. Determine the diameter of the shifter and make a new socket for it. Something like this silly thing I drew 
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06-15-2017, 12:09 PM
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Crazy that you mentioned both of these ideas... I was planning on going one of these routes... Great minds think alike!! Okay, so... I have three options here... Go with the original design and either get a new one and fix it up or fill in the gap with the one I have now... Go with a spacer and the newest idea... Mounting that section of arm solidly to a plate of some sort and mounting that to the "tower" using the three existing holes... Make a new socket for the pivot ball on the shifter and mount that to the tower... I like this new last idea, but the fab work on it would require most to pay a lot to get it done... Hmmmmmm.... What to do!!!! Cheers!!!
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#5
06-15-2017, 01:43 PM
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Tough choices! Really I think if you could fab something up will be best but it will take some guess work. The only issue I see with the plate idea is rough shift feeling if you don't have any bushings in there, but easy enough to fix. I think trying to alter the OEM shift arm will lead to failure. It looks like a cast aluminum piece and I think if you chop it and reweld it may not hold up. Completely guessing here though!
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06-15-2017, 03:40 PM
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If I can mount the other arm on the tower somehow, I think that would be the most solid and work the best with all the shifter boots... And finally, the custom part will probably be the most customize-able... The one that holds up the longest, wins!! Thanks for the input on this!! Really really!!! Cheers!!!
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#7
06-17-2017, 08:28 AM
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Good day all!!!
Well, I think I have figured it out... I found these... I’ll leave it at that... “Found”... I sized everything up and I knew I had to figure things out this morning when I got home... My initial thought was to have the hold down bolt facing up, but that caused clearance issues and figured I would just flip them, craw under the X to tighten down the clamp part, and then adjust inside once things were lined up... Ya may need to go a couple rounds to make sure everything is correct... So, let’s start with the initial thought... This was the idea I had when I saw how much stress was on the shifter arm at the angle it was at...  Then I got these universal iron beam clamps... They are usually for hanging electrical or pipe conduit from the support beams in factories... I installed these first with one oversize nut as a spacer...  Then put the fabricated E36 shifter arm in place...    You will note how much room there is without the arm... You may also notice I have a long bolt holding the front rod section of the E36 shifter arm... The original one was just a touch too short, and this was used temporally to hold it... I adjusted the selector rod until I got the shifter centered... BUT, I don’t have to... There isn’t that much movement, so I can adjust it forward or backwards as I need to... This is third...  And Neutral...  And forth...  Here again... This is third... Still plenty of room to adjust back some so the shifter isn't so vertical...  Neutral... ~Centered~  And forth...  Now the only real issue I see with this is the stress at the two mounting points... I can feel the shifts, but there are no isolation parts... The trans is dry still (Yep, I know)... And the motor is not running... I think this won’t be as “harsh” as it feels now when everything is put back together... Even if it is... I think I can deal with it until a better idea shows itself... Thoughts?! Okay, I’m off to bed... Cheers for now!!!
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06-18-2017, 12:00 AM
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Can you fab up some brackets and TIG it to the current arm? I do think youre on the right track though!
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06-21-2017, 11:57 AM
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Thanks!! I'll be looking into this and a few other improvements as the project continues or escalates... I had thought about making a casting of my own, based off the OEM pivot holder so OEM parts can be reused or replaced as needed and there won't be a need to purchase odd items when things wear out... I doubt the casting would wear out... Cheers!!!
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